Above 1200 Sq/FT Cleaning Up My Shop

[Vieux]

You have a lot of wonderful old equipment! Your wires and pipes look great. It's a good job!

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy,

Love the electrics, just so different and well executed..

Have a good one..

 

[oldironfarmer]

Love the old cat grader!

Also all the other work as well!

Thanks! After taking the picture I'm getting eager to get is back to the house. Even if I don't use it much it would be nice to have around.

Dan, I have heard that story before..

Sometimes it is just a story. And sometimes you get busy and forget to start something for ten or twenty years. And it was running when parked. My COE is like that. I drove it in that spot and parked it until I could get the leaking wheel cylinder cups fixed. I bought new cups last year, so it's getting closer. I saw the tag the other day, 1993. Hmmm...

Andy: you sure get a lot done in a day and amazed you still have the energy to post and spend a few minutes to post all the good comments. WELL DONE!!

I feel like I don't get much done, so thanks for the encouraging words.

My mother in law, before she passed, would always respond when asked what she needed, was "a few kind words". Wise woman.

so i'm wondering how you soldered that T to the left of the new weld/solder where you had the safety piece of metal and wood (BTW nice plan leaving that where you could find it 10 years ago)? i'm guessing you soldered that maybe over on a bench and then just did some simple extensions where you showed us and one on the other side of the wall?

Yes and no. The pipe is as long as the room plus one wall thickness, so I had to fish it in place without the tee. I like to do all three legs of a tee at the same time so I put a support under the pipe, fitted the tee and both branches (one branch with the threaded end fitting soldered on) and soldered them one the ladder about a foot from the wall. Then maneuvered the branch into the coupling and soldered both sides in one heat. The side of the wall with the stub poking through is part of the 15' 6" long pipe.

nice job clocking those screws and until i heard a couple comments about shop dust gathering in the grooves of the screws when they are horizontal i think that was my preferred method instead of vertical.

I just don't clock screws so I can't be criticized for not doing it right. If the slots are vertical that same dust may get into the socket which would be more of a hazard

i have a question on the safety factor of your CUSTOM holder for your pipe. since i'm guessing you cut the piece of wood in half with a bandsaw why didn't you continue to cut the trim out on a bandsaw too instead of a table saw? or did you make both cuts on the table saw? looks like it worked and i didn't hear you lost any fingers so another quality job.

I clamped two pieces together to drill, you can see the clamp in the picture. And I started the spur in the crack so I have exactly half a hole on each side. The kerf would have given me less than half, and I didn't want to use a thick piece of oak. The board is 2-1/2 inches wide and I'm too lazy to put a wide blade on my bandsaw for a few cuts. The narrow blade may not give a good cut in that depth oak so I elected to use the table saw. I cut the piece long to keep my fingers clear in the table saw. The piece is wide enough that a little of the table saw insert was showing so I could hold down and to the fence to cut, being mindful that if it binds it may be thrown back and my fingers have to be in a safe position. After cutting I trimmed the end off on the radial arm saw for the finished piece. Thanks for asking.

i still have a hard time looking at your plumbing and wiring, but it's starting to look more normal.

I DON'T WANT TO BE NORMAL

My wiring is not for general use, it is just something I have worked out and it works well for me. Running THHW in conduit would be very time consuming and costly, as well as not lending itself well to modifications. We had to run conduit in our church (5,000 sq ft addition I managed) and tracing circuits and modifying conduit in a hot attic was less fun than I had hoped. I had an electrician helping me, but he is an oil field guy, great on 440 three phase but had never done much conduit and never a three way switch. We also got into enough lights I had to get lighting contactors to take the load off the switch. A third of the add-on was doubling the size of a fellowship hall so all the new lights and switches had to interact with the old lights and switches like it was all built at once. Passed inspection first time (State Fire Marshal).

Here's a 360 shot of the church addition classrooms in progress http://www.360cities.net/image/new-construction-first-baptist-church-terlton

enjoy your Saturday today!!

Heart doctor today (nothing wrong, just small, hard, and cold) so I only got 1/3 day in, BUT IT WAS STILL SATURDAY

NED: nice post and i agree Andy's humor will infect anybody and make them feel better. GET WELL SOON!!

Am I quarantined? Are you saying I'm contagious?

Thanks for the kind words.

You have a lot of wonderful old equipment! Your wires and pipes look great. It's a good job!

Thank you for your kind words! Mother in law said she just needed a few kind words. She left her daughter for me to take care of.

Andy,

Love the electrics, just so different and well executed..

Have a good one..

The electric scheme is probably easier to take in my shop than in your shed, I would wager

I really expected to be thoroughly roasted by the way I'm doing wiring, but you guys have been very kind and reasonably understanding. Thanks to the group, those with positive statements, and those that hold their tongues!

(I'm doing it my way anyway)

In my broom shop I really wanted to run bare conductors across the ceiling on porcelain thimbles and hang pigtail light sockets from them with large clear incandescent bulbs from them and push button switches to get the 1900's look. Considered 12v. Add lights by reaching up and hanging more. I waffled, I chickened out, I'm a wimp. Taking the broom out of the vise I could catch a wire. But it would have looked so cool Like an electrical version of a line shaft installation.

Guys, thank you so much for your comments and visits. It means a lot.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy,

You too are in this group...

I know that I haven't been posting lately but I wanted to let you know that during the time we were in the ICU your thread, among others, help pass the time. Just thought a thank you was in order.

I will add, you make me laugh and that is priceless.

Cheers,
Chris

Lot's of us here have had severe family health issues and though each situation is quite different, the common thread is concern over your loved one's welfare. Each rises to the occasion and gets through the stress with the expectation of a return to a normalcy which was previously less appreciated than it will be if it returns. Sometimes a new normal occurs instead and that is OK as well. Each of us, as we sympathize with you, are reflecting on our own situation and gaining in our appreciation of things we may have taken for granted. Like the ability to go to work or have your spouse help with routine tasks. In expressing our care for you, we are the ones who gain by taking the time to appreciate what we have.

So, thank you for the show of appreciation, but I am the one who gained by you sharing your travails.

And, I really like being accepted as a part of this group of OCD misfits

Like I told someone, laugh at me, or laugh with me, but at least we'll be laughing when they come to take us away. I'll be laughing regardless

 

[theoldwizard1]

... It's home, set on blocks, downhill from any building, ...

And few people will know WHY this is important !

 

[1/2 Cup]

The electric scheme is probably easier to take in my shop than in your shed, I would wager

I really expected to be thoroughly roasted by the way I'm doing wiring, but you guys have been very kind and reasonably understanding. Thanks to the group, those with positive statements, and those that hold their tongues!

(I'm doing it my way anyway)

In my broom shop I really wanted to run bare conductors across the ceiling on porcelain thimbles and hang pigtail light sockets from them with large clear incandescent bulbs from them and push button switches to get the 1900's look. Considered 12v. Add lights by reaching up and hanging more. I waffled, I chickened out, I'm a wimp. Taking the broom out of the vise I could catch a wire. But it would have looked so cool Like an electrical version of a line shaft installation.

Guys, thank you so much for your comments and visits. It means a lot.

Andy, you are right, it wouldn't work in my shed, even though technically it would meet the code out here.

Seriously I do like what you have done..

Regards

 

[walt111]

I like your wiring in the shop I may do the same in mine if it ever gets built.
walt

 

[Farmerjonathan]

Andy, the wiring has inspired me just so you know. I converted a small drive thru corncrib into my woodshop years ago. A double bypass on my arm that didn't work and then they put in a new artery from wrist to armpit that has worked well slowed my shop progress to the point I just used what I had in place. I originally though conduit, but the romex on that run and with the clips, FANTASTIC!, I really like the look and think for my woodshop it will go nicely. I hope you don't mind I "borrow" your idea, when asked about it will surely tell where I got the idea and who the original idea belongs to.
Oh, I finally understood your ability to "shoo" horses. Good one!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[oldironfarmer]

And few people will know WHY this is important !

I love it, it's a gas! A heavy gas!

Andy, you are right, it wouldn't work in my shed, even though technically it would meet the code out here.

Seriously I do like what you have done..

Regards

Isn't it good that we are all different, but with similar interests!

I like your wiring in the shop I may do the same in mine if it ever gets built.
walt

I can't recommend it, as it will not pass code requirements lots of places. But it works for me. You just need to make certain what you do is safe.

Andy, the wiring has inspired me just so you know. I converted a small drive thru corncrib into my woodshop years ago. A double bypass on my arm that didn't work and then they put in a new artery from wrist to armpit that has worked well slowed my shop progress to the point I just used what I had in place. I originally though conduit, but the romex on that run and with the clips, FANTASTIC!, I really like the look and think for my woodshop it will go nicely. I hope you don't mind I "borrow" your idea, when asked about it will surely tell where I got the idea and who the original idea belongs to.
Oh, I finally understood your ability to "shoo" horses. Good one!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to hear about the artery!

I'll repeat, it works for me, but I cannot recommend it. Call it your own if you like!

I shoo horses with both arms.

Thanks for the visits everyone! It got too late to post yesterday's minimal progress last night, and I'm on my way to Zumba so I'll try when I get back!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Made a little progress on the air line.

Yesterday I got the drop for the compressor added.

This morning as I was enjoying GJ while it was 18F outside, I got a call from the guys building a barn for me 12 miles away. They needed a generator. I needed to feed cows. So instead of the shop I left the house in a hurry. Cows come first. I've figured out what a sign of wealth is in the bovine world. You are wealthy if you have enough hay to throw it on your back and wear it around like a cloak. I have witnessed this many times over the years. They only do it when they have plenty to eat and are happy.

She put that on there herself. Also noticed they had eaten down their hay pretty good, so they got more today.

How cheap can you be? My feed mill charges $0.35 per bag. So if you take back used bags, bundled up neatly, they will deduct $14 from a ton of feed. This is both ends of the same bag. It has been sewn four times each end. Fresh it has one seam each end, so this bag has been refilled six times.

It was getting fragile, so I trashed it. You don't want one to rip during handling. Pretty good to get six trips out of a bag, and I do that regularly. The guys at the feed mill laugh at my worn bags, except when they rip one filling it.

After getting the generator over to the barn crew I warmed up Bob and hauled hay.

They cleaned that old hay up pretty good in two days.

I know I bought too many lights, but the stack of used boxes is growing.

I'm using them to ship brooms in. I like recycling.

While I was on my generator run I noticed this old truck.

Nice.

Ford C900

It's not mine.

Why is it not mine?

I called the old owner.

Played "let's make a deal"

It's mine.

Winch truck

With a fifth wheel and tandem Eatons, two speed rear and rolling tailboard. Now I need a float.

Owner said it was low mileage, a utility company truck

Shows 033,000 miles, might be right. It has the old 534 (8.8L) big block gas. Fortunately it has big gas tanks to make it between stations. Those engines, used in fire trucks and garbage trucks, are said to be good for 500,000 miles.

Five speed gearbox

RAN WHEN PARKED

Made some air line hangers. Drilled a 7/8 hole, bandsaw and two clips!

Got the air line to the door, jumper to go through the wall is made up on the scaffold deck.

Compressor drop is complete.

Ready to move the compressor as soon as I can test the joints. They were soldered by an engineer

Air line is coming together!

 

[jbmatth]

What was your reasoning for going with copper over regular "black iron" as everyone on here seems to call it? I use the industry standard here of A105 and A106/B, it is really easy to find good leftovers at the scrap yard. Yep used air lines for me, like your bags of grain it is cheaper, but I like to call it being frugal.
JB

 

[drivesitfar]

Andy: nicely done and BEE CAREFUL moving that big compressor. FAT COWS ARE HAPPY COWS and yours seem to be smiling. i also be they are good exercise to fit in with your Zumba.

JB: i'm guessing maybe Andy had that copper sitting around waiting for a project. i know i have some sitting in my crawl space cause like Andy and a few others around here i hate going to a store in the middle of a project. i could be wrong though.

just curious if you have to cut and rethread the used black pipe you use and do you do it by hand sort of or do you have a nice pipe threader?

 

[BUGTHUG]

That's a cool old utility truck. Was there a trailer on the other side of where it was parked? I was going to say it looked like an old oil field truck?
Now that you have that c o e, you won't be needing the other?

 

[oldironfarmer]

What was your reasoning for going with copper over regular "black iron" as everyone on here seems to call it? I use the industry standard here of A105 and A106/B, it is really easy to find good leftovers at the scrap yard. Yep used air lines for me, like your bags of grain it is cheaper, but I like to call it being frugal.
JB

Interesting question. Several reasons:
1 I don't like the idea of rust dust in my air lines
2 When I installed my first copper system it was economical
3 Copper is quick to install
4 Copper is light
5 Copper is easy to modify, to add drops
6 I seldom find time to go to a scrap yard
7 Cast iron crewed fittings are only good for 150 psi working pressure per ASME B31.9, I feel more comfortable with malleable and then the cost goes up and availability goes down.
8 I wanted to match my existing system.

However, I choked when I went to buy refrigeration tubing for the new system, but trying not to be too cheap I bought it. Then when I went to another place (cheaper and more selection on fittings but higher on tubing) I had near heart failure. My wife was waiting in the car and we already had a long day. And I was ready to buy, so it was full speed ahead regardless of price. I'm not sure I would do a copper system if I was just starting, but I do like having it.

Andy: nicely done and BEE CAREFUL moving that big compressor. FAT COWS ARE HAPPY COWS and yours seem to be smiling. i also be they are good exercise to fit in with your Zumba.

Moving the compressor with Bob was where an issue could have been. Walking it across the floor is a piece of cake, you just start rocking it and then sliding it as it is rocking and vibrating. It moves very easily.

JB: i'm guessing maybe Andy had that copper sitting around waiting for a project. i know i have some sitting in my crawl space cause like Andy and a few others around here i hate going to a store in the middle of a project. i could be wrong though.

Guilty as charged, had very little tubing left from several modifications over the years. But I will have a lot now.

just curious if you have to cut and rethread the used black pipe you use and do you do it by hand sort of or do you have a nice pipe threader?

That's a cool old utility truck. Was there a trailer on the other side of where it was parked? I was going to say it looked like an old oil field truck?
Now that you have that c o e, you won't be needing the other?

Looks like a 2 Ton Chevy long wheel base next to it. I advertised the old 48 COE for $500 on Craigslist and had a check in hand within a day! It was easy to sell.

Not. I've wanted a 48 Chevy COE since college days when a local welder had a red an white welding truck like it. I'm excited about the new truck but the deal is still pending on my approval. And I'm starting to get cold feet. It's a ten wheeler and needs ten tires. $2,500 new. It is a lot heavier than I need (not than I want) and I have lots of projects to do once I get my shop finished. I sure like the way it looks but am starting to realize it is very impractical. Taking the time to move it home is a big issue. If I buy it, it will probably still be there this time next year.

 

[oldironfarmer]

No shop time today, went to Oklahoma City to celebrate my son's 48th birthday. The boy is getting some age on him. How did that happen?

Got home late in the day, got the mail and saw a package from Australia?

Oh boy oh boy oh boy. Santa's helper thought of me!!

Was I ever pleased!! 1/2 pleased.

Now, where to put it? It looks just right!

Yes, that is US Army on the door. Driver's door says "Independent Torpedo Company, Drumright, Oklahoma". An oilfield torpedo is an explosive device lowered in a well generally to perforate the casing to let oil and gas into the pipe.

Now to find a permanent place for the emblem. And, how do I thank Steve, err, Mr. 1/2 Cup? I am honored!!

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, I am just so stoked that the Ford Script arrived safely.

As always enjoy..

 

[Lyndon]

Andy

And all the way back over here - I have it's mate!

Lyndon
Still looking for mounting ideas. . . . .

 

[Grumblebum]

Well done boys.

Andy my vote is the COE build.

The 10 wheeler is cool, but I think the COE will be coolest

GB.

 

[dlcwent]

Nice score on the Ford Andy. Gotta love those trucks. (well you gotta). That was down(under) right nice of 1/2 to send you that. I've heard that he's a pretty nice guy. So what's your plan for the Ford? At you going to plant it and see if it fruits? It would make a real nice crop too. I'll take one when you harvest.

 

[Bears Fan]

I always enjoy checking in on your thread! There seems to be a lot of cool things going on here I can see all kinds of potential in the ole' Ford C900

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy, I am just so stoked that the Ford Script arrived safely.

As always enjoy..

Thank you!! I'm still thinking of places I could display it! I feel 1/2 good about it!!

Andy

And all the way back over here - I have it's mate!

Lyndon
Still looking for mounting ideas. . . . .

I know, I saw yours and drooled. Even though I suspected one might be on it's way to me, I couldn't really expect it. What a great surprise!

Unfortunately mine came with metric mounting screws so I'm sure my Imperial screwdriver will not fit it. Need to look around and see if I've perhaps got a Whitworth Phillips.

Well done boys.

Andy my vote is the COE build.

The 10 wheeler is cool, but I think the COE will be coolest

GB.

Many thanks! The old Chevy is a go, no question. I've wanted one for fifty years (had this one waiting for twenty or so) and want it to be about the first in the new shop.

The Ford just looks really cool. However it is a really big project to tackle and will have to wait on several others. But it would be nice to have the winch and fifth wheel. Pretty easy to load anything you can drag onto a float. But I'm really on the fence.

Nice score on the Ford Andy. Gotta love those trucks. (well you gotta). That was down(under) right nice of 1/2 to send you that. I've heard that he's a pretty nice guy. So what's your plan for the Ford? At you going to plant it and see if it fruits? It would make a real nice crop too. I'll take one when you harvest.

Down (under) right nice

I'm just about 1/2 happy over the hole deal.

I know you can see right through his gift to me.

But I like it, you know, anything shiny for a redneck (no redbacks were harmed in this production)

I always enjoy checking in on your thread! There seems to be a lot of cool things going on here I can see all kinds of potential in the ole' Ford C900

You make a strong case for the C900, nice builds there. Good news is I won't have much money in it, and if I decide to strip it and make a street rod out of it the axles and winch have some real value.

One advantage I have is in being a legitimate farmer I can tag it cheaply as long as I don't hire it out. So it wouldn't eat much. And it would haul some hay!

It's big enough to sit four across with more room than double dating in a 1964 C10.

Thanks for the visits everyone! I guess you all know I waffle now and again. Too many interests pulling me in too many ways.

One more Saturday this week!!

 

[theoldwizard1]

Finished straightening up the wire runs

That's as good as it's going to get, they just won't straighten any better

Looks like, but that is just **** !

 

[BUGTHUG]

Way cool on the Ford sign from down under. Way to go 1/2 cup.
I know where there are a couple of the Ford COE's, one is for sale. I think they are both in the 60's, one has a wheat bed the other has a box bed. Good for storage!
I have a rocket launcher that would fit on one. Its a car hauler that goes over the cab and has a "stinger" to pull another. It had 2 winches on it , but the guy that delivered it took them. I thought I had a picture of it?

 

[1/2 Cup]

Thank you!! I'm still thinking of places I could display it! I feel 1/2 good about it!!

I know, I saw yours and drooled. Even though I suspected one might be on it's way to me, I couldn't really expect it. What a great surprise!

Unfortunately mine came with metric mounting screws so I'm sure my Imperial screwdriver will not fit it. Need to look around and see if I've perhaps got a Whitworth Phillips.

Down (under) right nice

I'm just about 1/2 happy over the hole deal.

I know you can see right through his gift to me.

But I like it, you know, anything shiny for a redneck (no redbacks were harmed in this production)

Thanks for the visits everyone! I guess you all know I waffle now and again. Too many interests pulling me in too many ways.

One more Saturday this week!!

Andy,

The pleasure is all mine, let me tell you..

If you only feel 1/2 good about not having found a place to mount the Script my words of advise to you are to ponder the situation for just 1/2 a moment as we don't need any 1/2 baked decisions made at this point in time.

Metric mounting screws Note to file : 1/2 Cup you have really stuffed up here. Shame.

One consolation Andy is that should you not have the correct screw driver, that it is a golden opportunity to buy more tools..

Can I recommend that you dot buy any Whitworth Phillips if you don't have one, they are just so yesterday type technology..

Shiny + Redneck just go hand in hand and you are right I can guarantee that none were harmed in the scripts manufacturing process but rest assured that process did leverage of some Redneck techniques..

Waffle ... never..

Enjoy..

 

[oldironfarmer]

Looks like, but that is just **** !

American National Association of Losers?

Way cool on the Ford sign from down under. Way to go 1/2 cup.
I know where there are a couple of the Ford COE's, one is for sale. I think they are both in the 60's, one has a wheat bed the other has a box bed. Good for storage!
I have a rocket launcher that would fit on one. Its a car hauler that goes over the cab and has a "stinger" to pull another. It had 2 winches on it , but the guy that delivered it took them. I thought I had a picture of it?

That sounds like a nice combination. I need more vehicles. Did they run when parked?

Andy,

The pleasure is all mine, let me tell you..

If you only feel 1/2 good about not having found a place to mount the Script my words of advise to you are to ponder the situation for just 1/2 a moment as we don't need any 1/2 baked decisions made at this point in time.

Metric mounting screws Note to file : 1/2 Cup you have really stuffed up here. Shame.

One consolation Andy is that should you not have the correct screw driver, that it is a golden opportunity to buy more tools..

Can I recommend that you dot buy any Whitworth Phillips if you don't have one, they are just so yesterday type technology..

Shiny + Redneck just go hand in hand and you are right I can guarantee that none were harmed in the scripts manufacturing process but rest assured that process did leverage of some Redneck techniques..

Waffle ... never..

Enjoy..

Buy more tools

Yes, SIR!!

I am enjoying!

Thanks for the visits, guys!

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, just fantastic....

I am sure the Ford Script will eventually find a home..

Cheers

 

[oldironfarmer]

Productive day today, got back on the air line.

Had this tee to solder in place. Since it goes through the wall just to the right, I had to solder it close to the wire.

Barely room to get the old standby in

That vertical rise is my second water drop from the compressor discharge. My plan for water removal is to have large enough pipe for slow air flow (3/4" OD tubing) to allow water to drop out as the air flows, then go through vertical risers with a dropout leg below. Then in the paint booth, install an accumulator at regulated pressure. When air passes through a regulator that drops the pressure it lowers the relative humidity of the air with lower pressure. By having an accumulator at the regulated pressure (lower pressure) it helps the regulator be more responsive because triggering the gun only lowers the accumulator pressure a little rather than only having the air volume in the hose to feed the gun before the regulator can respond to the lower pressure. Accumulator will stay dry as long as liquid water is not introduced into it.

(edit: I was wrong and removed the reference to lower temperature, as lower temperature actually raises the relative humidity of air)

Then I ordered some pipe supports for 2-1/2" standoff.

Production is fun

And they fit. Hole is 7/8" so it won't pinch the pipe after the kerf was removed. I want the tubing to be able to float.

This is the drop for the spray booth

Compressor location. Top tap is for local air supply, short tap is for compressor feed, bottom is for water dropout. The short piece was leftover and was curved, really to short to straighten easily so it is angled down to connect to the compressor discharge hose. This riser is also the first water dropout after the compressor tank.

Rise to get over the foundry room door is the second dropout and will stop water laying in the bottom of the line.

Out of two 50 ft rolls of tubing, and about ten ft I had left from earlier installations, I only had about five feet left. I was hoping to have more for future modifications but at least I wasn't short.

Last two drops and last 12 ft run all soldered up on the bench (scaffold) and ready to go up.

Spray booth drop finished and plumbed through the wall. Short rise is just to keep dribbling liquid coming down the downcomer from getting to the regulator.

Spray booth tap

Utility air tap. I forgot to add a tap for the lift at this point. I may do that with pipe fittings, but would like a tee up close to the ceiling. This air is for lock release on the Bendpak. I could also bring it from across the room.

Drop for tire machine

One more drop for utility air

Need to add supports to hold the drops vertical.

That's the air line. Late in the day I put valves and plugs on all the connections (13) and pressured up the pipe. Three leaks, all three dry joints on one side. A little flux, a little heat, and a little solder and all three sucked up solder. Pressured it up again and no leaks on a soap bubble test

Ready to get the lines into place and add supports. I am so ready to have my air compressor back. Then I've got a little more wiring to do, lights to hang, and a little sheetrock work, build doors for the pain booth and finish up the exhaust fan and we're DONE!

Then I can start cleaning up my shop.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy, just fantastic....

I am sure the Ford Script will eventually find a home..

Cheers

I want to find just the right spot. Right now it is resting at the bottom of the Skelly sign.

Thanks again!

 

[dlcwent]

That's the air line. Late in the day I put valves and plugs on all the connections (13) and pressured up the pipe. Three leaks, all three dry joints on one side. A little flux, a little heat, and a little solder and all three sucked up solder. Pressured it up again and no leaks on a soap bubble test

Ready to get the lines into place and add supports. I am so ready to have my air compressor back. Then I've got a little more wiring to do, lights to hang, and a little sheetrock work, build doors for the pain booth and finish up the exhaust fan and we're DONE!

Then I can start cleaning up my shop.(good one)

I can hardly wait. I've been following you around for months and now we're going to see you do something. I'm all ................fuzzy thinking that you are going to stop being lazy Andy

Oh yeah, the air line looks pretty good too. Did you steal that idea from me?????

 

[egnorant]

I want a big truck like that!

Bruce

 

[bolensboneyard]

Andy you can get special clamps from any Model A supply to mount a license plate. They will work for the Ford sign with a small modification. Looks nice. Bobby

 

[Farmerjonathan]

Andy, I cannot imagine how productive you will be in the newly remodeled shop. Heck, you are building, fabricating and installing all kinds of parts around the mess of remodeling. Amazing. You are an inspiration. Oh, the Ford emblem, I'm thinking it would make a fantastic belt buckle for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[oldironfarmer]

That's the air line. Late in the day I put valves and plugs on all the connections (13) and pressured up the pipe. Three leaks, all three dry joints on one side. A little flux, a little heat, and a little solder and all three sucked up solder. Pressured it up again and no leaks on a soap bubble test

Ready to get the lines into place and add supports. I am so ready to have my air compressor back. Then I've got a little more wiring to do, lights to hang, and a little sheetrock work, build doors for the pain booth and finish up the exhaust fan and we're DONE!

Then I can start cleaning up my shop.(good one)

I can hardly wait. I've been following you around for months and now we're going to see you do something. I'm all ................fuzzy thinking that you are going to stop being lazy Andy

Oh yeah, the air line looks pretty good too. Did you steal that idea from me?????

I really do plan on cleaning my shop. It's not just an urban myth, I'll show you!

I would have stolen your air line idea but I had never seen it.

Just copied what I've been using for twenty years.

Thanks for stopping in

I want a big truck like that!

Bruce

me too!

Andy you can get special clamps from any Model A supply to mount a license plate. They will work for the Ford sign with a small modification. Looks nice. Bobby

Thanks! Right now it's bonding with the Skelly sign.

Andy, I cannot imagine how productive you will be in the newly remodeled shop. Heck, you are building, fabricating and installing all kinds of parts around the mess of remodeling. Amazing. You are an inspiration. Oh, the Ford emblem, I'm thinking it would make a fantastic belt buckle for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope I can be productive in a clean shop It will be a new experience

Belt buckle, hmmm..... it would be kind of small for an Oklahoma cowboy, but I'm not a cowboy, so, maybe...

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, your air lines look great the way you have done them, they compliment the electrics.

Are we polishing the copper lines per chance??

Regards

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy, your air lines look great the way you have done them, they compliment the electrics.

Are we polishing the copper lines per chance??

Regards

A hearty 1/2 thanks!

They have to be polished after soldering to get rid of the colors from heat. Then they have to be lacquered several coats or it just tarnishes.

That would not be me. It was just new refrigerant tubing. It does not tarnish very fast.

Thanks for the visit!

PS Did you get a package from me?

 

[1/2 Cup]

Andy, understand, polishing that copper would be a big job..

PS no package.

Regards

 

[drivesitfar]

ANDY: sorry i've been lurking and admiring all the work you get done every day while you still have "CLEANING THE SHOP" on your TO DO LIST (or maybe it's a list in your head since you don't do TO DO LISTS).

i can't recall how you originally mounted the boards that your wiring is laying on. did you use a nail gun?

it's still growing on me and i love your new what looks like OAK brackets for your copper air piping. just curious since it looks like you are using a lot of heat to solder the copper pipe connections are you using LEAD FREE SOLDER? i remember using some when it first came out 20+ years ago when i replaced all our galvanized piping with copper that i had to heat it up almost to melting the pipe to get it to work. having 3 new babies in the house i really wanted to do it right, but there should have been (or maybe there was) a better way.

anyway now for any copper piping i do for outside plumbing i just use some of the old solder i find at garage sales that has some lead in it and it works a lot better. sorry i waited until you were almost done to think of this.

everything is looking pretty good and are you on schedule for opening the box with your lift in it on CHRISTMAS MORNING?

cheers

1/2: with all you have going on you still managed to ship Andy a Ford sign. i still need to get out a few USPS boxes that i've got buried under my STUFF to members. WELL DONE SIR!!

 

[oldironfarmer]

Andy, understand, polishing that copper would be a big job..

PS no package.

Regards

There are esteemed GJ members who would not be caught dead with a tarnished copper line. It would look nice. What kind of polish do you think would be best? Brasso? That would not take toooo much time. And if it were done every month, no lacquer required

OH, you package. Probably didn't get one because I didn't mail one

ANDY: sorry i've been lurking and admiring all the work you get done every day while you still have "CLEANING THE SHOP" on your TO DO LIST (or maybe it's a list in your head since you don't do TO DO LISTS).

I only have one goal, cleaning up my shop, I just needed a bit more space for a "place for everything".

i can't recall how you originally mounted the boards that your wiring is laying on. did you use a nail gun?

Strips are nailed to the sheetrock. Originally I glued and nailed them, but this go-around they are nailed only, with the nails angled outward to avoid pullout.

it's still growing on me and i love your new what looks like OAK brackets for your copper air piping. just curious since it looks like you are using a lot of heat to solder the copper pipe connections are you using LEAD FREE SOLDER? i remember using some when it first came out 20+ years ago when i replaced all our galvanized piping with copper that i had to heat it up almost to melting the pipe to get it to work. having 3 new babies in the house i really wanted to do it right, but there should have been (or maybe there was) a better way.

anyway now for any copper piping i do for outside plumbing i just use some of the old solder i find at garage sales that has some lead in it and it works a lot better. sorry i waited until you were almost done to think of this.

Now you tell me! I had forgotten about lead free, and that is what I had picked up. 95-5 Tin Antimony. It does take the heat. But as long as the joint draws it I guess it works. Hard to get a nice finish on top, though. I'll check my stock and put back lead bearing for future repair jobs where I have to pull a joint apart. I tried to pull the first leaker apart and could not get it hot enough so I capitulated and just added solder. Not an issue since it worked.

everything is looking pretty good and are you on schedule for opening the box with your lift in it on CHRISTMAS MORNING?

Grand scheme

cheers

1/2: with all you have going on you still managed to ship Andy a Ford sign. i still need to get out a few USPS boxes that i've got buried under my STUFF to members. WELL DONE SIR!!

He surprised me, then I was mean to him

 

[oldironfarmer]

JB showed up today and helped feed hay first thing this morning. Thanks JB!

Maybe he didn't come, I have no pictures? We were too busy visiting, he's a great guy and promised to come back.

 

[dlcwent]

No Andy, I'm not calling you a thief. You, me, and a thousand other guys probably have a similar set up. Glad to hear you met another member. I always enjoy meeting one. And thanks for the link you gave me over on my thread. I plan on getting the quick change head.

And does anyone really polish their copper lines??? 1/2 maybe.