Closing machine shop acquisitions

Hiatt1991 · Oct 14, 2017

Just got back from a closing machine shop sale. The guy running it said the shop was his father's and since the son had his own shop, he sold off a bunch of duplicate tools. I got this Mastercraft drill press vise which works really smooth, a Snap-On, Bluepoint and Williams wrenches, some interesting pliers, some older Craftsman 1/2 and 3/8 socket adapters as well as a couple of 3/8 Cornwell and Craftsman ratchets. Not too bad for under $50.

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woody 73 · Oct 14, 2017

If my old and tired eyes are still working today it looks like you picked up a Bernard pair of pliers...

http://www.sargenttools.com/About/Our-History/

slip knot · Oct 14, 2017

the "drill press vise" is gold.

Hiatt1991 · Oct 14, 2017

woody 73 said:
If my old and tired eyes are still working today it looks like you picked up a Bernard pair of pliers...

http://www.sargenttools.com/About/Our-History/

Correct! Pretty interesting set of pliers with the wire cutter on the side. They have an interesting mechanism and they close with the jaws pressing directly together instead of at an angle like most pliers.

Hiatt1991 · Oct 14, 2017

slip knot said:
the "drill press vise" is gold.

I guess I should have said "X-Y milling table" but I plan to put it on a drill press.

larry_g · Oct 14, 2017

Hiatt1991 said:
I guess I should have said "X-Y milling table" but I plan to put it on a drill press.

"X_Y positioning table" would be a better term. I would suggest that you disassemble that table and get all of the oxide off the ways before they are damaged any more by moving them against each other and doing any more damage.

If you are planning to use this to mill on a drill press watch this:

lg
no neat sig line

Hiatt1991 · Oct 14, 2017

larry_g said:
"X_Y positioning table" would be a better term. I would suggest that you disassemble that table and get all of the oxide off the ways before they are damaged any more by moving them against each other and doing any more damage.

If you are planning to use this to mill on a drill press watch this:

lg
no neat sig line

I plan on doing that. It was covered in metal shavings so I plan on taking it all the way down and cleaning all the moving pieces.

Hiatt1991 · Oct 14, 2017

Last find of the day was this old Craftsman vise with 3.5" wide jaws. $15

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Kenwc · Oct 14, 2017

This is an Atlas version but they clean up nice.

Hiatt1991 · Oct 14, 2017

Kenwc said:
This is an Atlas version but they clean up nice.

That looks great! I'd love to be able to get my handles that shiny. I wonder how they did it.

Kenwc · Oct 14, 2017

On the handles I used a buffing wheel and Mothers Metal Polish Any parts that would fit on my lathe I polished with Mothers while they spun.

Hiatt1991 · Oct 14, 2017

Kenwc said:
On the handles I used a buffing wheel and Mothers Metal Polish Any parts that would fit on my lathe I polished with Mothers while they spun.

Do you need to coat the metal at all to keep the finish from rusting? I live in AZ so rust isn't too bad out here.

Kenwc · Oct 14, 2017

No I didn't coat them with anything. However...for some reason I just don't have a much of a rust problem in my shop which is strange because I live in Dallas. I've also noticed that "stuff" polished with metal polish "seems" to take longer to rust. Others have said the same.

CalsXS2 · Oct 14, 2017

On that vise. Is that sold as a Master craft brand or was that just the company that sold them and stuck their logo on it. Like car dealers do.

Here's my Atlas that I just got for $40. Looks just right on my 1936 Walker Turner drill press. It moves really smooth one direction and real stiff in the other. Needs a good cleaning. Are the gibbs easy to adjust?

crguy · Oct 14, 2017

larry_g said:
If you are planning to use this to mill on a drill press watch this:
/QUOTE]

Bad idea. Drill presses are not designed for milling.

Provincial · Oct 14, 2017

Kenwc said:
No I didn't coat them with anything. However...for some reason I just don't have a much of a rust problem in my shop which is strange because I live in Dallas. I've also noticed that "stuff" polished with metal polish "seems" to take longer to rust. Others have said the same.

Metal polish often contains a wax which leaves a coating like car wax on the part. This is especially true of chrome polish. I believe that the wax is the carrier for the polishing grit.

Hiatt1991 · Oct 14, 2017

CalsXS2 said:
On that vise. Is that sold as a Master craft brand or was that just the company that sold them and stuck their logo on it. Like car dealers do.

Here's my Atlas that I just got for $40. Looks just right on my 1936 Walker Turner drill press. It moves really smooth one direction and real stiff in the other. Needs a good cleaning. Are the gibbs easy to adjust?

Honestly, I'm not too sure. I just got it today so I don't know a whole lot about it. I messed around with it a little and it operates pretty smoothly but I plan on taking it apart and giving it a good cleaning and oiling like I do with all the used tools I buy. I'll do some more research on it though.

Hiatt1991 · Oct 14, 2017

crguy said:
larry_g said:

If you are planning to use this to mill on a drill press watch this:
/QUOTE]

Bad idea. Drill presses are not designed for milling.

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Another excuse to get a new tool!

Hiatt1991 · Oct 14, 2017

Provincial said:
Metal polish often contains a wax which leaves a coating like car wax on the part. This is especially true of chrome polish. I believe that the wax is the carrier for the polishing grit.

Good to know. I figured there had to be some kind of mild "sealer" or the finish would gather rust/oxidation pretty quickly.

Kenwc · Oct 15, 2017

Yes...very easy

Hiatt1991 said:
Do you need to coat the metal at all to keep the finish from rusting? I live in AZ so rust isn't too bad out here.

Dennis Leigh Henry · Oct 15, 2017

Hiatt1991 said:
crguy said:

Another excuse to get a new tool!

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That makes sense... I know that polishing on a lathe with finer and finer "emery" cloth gets the same met effect polish wise.. I'm wondering if there is something about having a smooth finish keeps the "pits" away and therefore prevents rust some that way too..

Like you said though.. more research (and understanding) is needed...

454ragtop · Oct 16, 2017

CalsXS2 said:
On that vise. Is that sold as a Master craft brand or was that just the company that sold them and stuck their logo on it. Like car dealers do.

Here's my Atlas that I just got for $40. Looks just right on my 1936 Walker Turner drill press. It moves really smooth one direction and real stiff in the other. Needs a good cleaning. Are the gibbs easy to adjust?

Mastercraft is the manufacturer, made in CA if I remember correctly. Very nice quality.

gungatim · Oct 16, 2017

Hiatt1991 said:
Correct! Pretty interesting set of pliers with the wire cutter on the side. They have an interesting mechanism and they close with the jaws pressing directly together instead of at an angle like most pliers.

I got a set of those at a yard sale for 50 cents this summer, I thought they were fishing pliers since the guy had a ton of fishing stuff...they are unique for sure...

davethorik · Oct 16, 2017

gungatim said:
I got a set of those at a yard sale for 50 cents this summer, I thought they were fishing pliers since the guy had a ton of fishing stuff...they are unique for sure...

That's funny, Sargent does make a pair of these pliers for fishing...they have more needle nose jaws and twin cutters.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Sportsmate-Pliers-by-Sargent/701273.uts

larry_g · Oct 16, 2017

crguy said:
larry_g said:

If you are planning to use this to mill on a drill press watch this:
/QUOTE]

Bad idea. Drill presses are not designed for milling.

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Did you happen to watch the linked video? I suspect not.

lg
no neat sig line

Hiatt1991 · Oct 17, 2017

larry_g said:
crguy said:

Did you happen to watch the linked video? I suspect not.

lg
no neat sig line

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I did watch it. I don't think I'll use the table to mill with a drill press. I'll probably just use it as a positioning table instead. Thanks for the heads up on that.

Hiatt1991 · Oct 17, 2017

Here's the before and after of my 3.5" Craftsman vise I got last weekend at a garage sale for $15. It was my first restoration and I think it came out pretty well. I couldn't have done it without the help on this forum. I used a wire wheel to strip it down to bare metal. Then I masked everything off and gave it 4 coats of rustoleum enamel paint.

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CalsXS2 · Oct 17, 2017

Kenwc said:
This is an Atlas version but they clean up nice.

Hey Kenwc.

I see you have 2 long rods with wing nuts on them. I assume there is also a nut there double nutting the wing nut and you use this to loosen/tighten the rotating table, and move it with the long rods? Am I close,,,lol.

gm54210 · Oct 17, 2017

woody 73 said:
If my old and tired eyes are still working today it looks like you picked up a Bernard pair of pliers...

http://www.sargenttools.com/About/Our-History/

Many suspended ceiling contractors use these for cutting and bending the hanger wire. The parallel jaws are a nice feature.

Hiatt1991 · Oct 17, 2017

Hiatt1991 said:
Here's the before and after of my 3.5" Craftsman vise I got last weekend at a garage sale for $15. It was my first restoration and I think it came out pretty well. I couldn't have done it without the help on this forum. I used a wire wheel to strip it down to bare metal. Then I masked everything off and gave it 4 coats of rustoleum enamel paint.

<a href='http://i.imgur.com/UaTTNFK' title=''><img src='http://i.imgur.com/UaTTNFK.jpg' alt='' title='Hosted by imgur.com' /></a>

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Here's the vise with some white accent. I don't have a real steady hand but I don't think it came out too bad.

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Kenwc · Oct 18, 2017

It came to me as shown below. The PO must have added these extended bolts to more easily adjust the gibs on that particular slide.

CalsXS2 said:
Hey Kenwc.

I see you have 2 long rods with wing nuts on them. I assume there is also a nut there double nutting the wing nut and you use this to loosen/tighten the rotating table, and move it with the long rods? Am I close,,,lol.

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