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I don't understand what he was looking for. I looked on marketplace and searched 100 mile radius from Detroit since he lists SE Michigan as location and linked a nice strut tamer for 200 bucks. He said that wasn't affordable tool, yet it's only 40 bucks more then taking it to a shop. But says the only option you can find for less then 200 is "taking your life in your hands!" Guess he was looking for a branick for 40 bucks.
He said the parts store loaner is taking your life in your hands, and the $160 labor charge is a safe bet, ie I interpret that to mean preferable over buying a tool he’ll likely never use again .

Sounds like he concluded paying the shop is the best option.
 
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The oldwizzard always tries to get off cheap, which is some cases is completely possible. Doing struts isn't one of those cases. LIfe is too short to lose fingers or worse trying to save a buck. $160 is a bargain, pay up and live long and prosper.
If you re-read his post, he decided paying the shop is the preferred alternative.
 

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He said the parts store loaner is taking your life in your hands, and the $160 labor charge is a safe bet, ie I interpret that to mean preferable over buying a tool he’ll likely never use again .

Sounds like he concluded paying the shop is the best option.

If you re-read his post, he decided paying the shop is the preferred alternative.
You must not have seen his latest post.

 

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I have the Schwaben set from ECS too, and feel it's a big upgrade from my older DIY strut tools. It seems to offer adequate strength and control. But, it will take multiple strut replacements to break even on the price.
No doubt much better than the widow maker clamps. It's a nice set dont get me wrong I just had some issues with plates getting stuck in the springs. No biggie just took some persuasion to get it off. Overall it does everything I need it for.
 

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i have been using this one for a few years, from tacoms to ford raptors, works perfect
That looks same as the Schwaben except color.
 

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That looks same as the Schwaben except color.
As with everything in tools these days, there are a lot of copycats. The Schwaben is a knock-off of Baum. I suspect the ones on Amazon from two or three brand names are the same kit as Schwaben, but I suppose it is possible there are multiple manufacturers or quality levels. I bought a Schwaben this week because it was on sale and the vendor offers lifetime support, but I debated the Amazon one for approx 60% of the price.

On a lot of these copycat sets, repair parts are interchangable with each other and the OE.
 

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As with everything in tools these days, there are a lot of copycats. The Schwaben is a knock-off of Baum. I suspect the ones on Amazon from two or three brand names are the same kit as Schwaben, but I suppose it is possible there are multiple manufacturers or quality levels. I bought a Schwaben this week because it was on sale and the vendor offers lifetime support, but I debated the Amazon one for approx 60% of the price.

On a lot of these copycat sets, repair parts are interchangable with each other and the OE.
Yeah probably. I was looking at picture of that Amazon set again last night and believe its actually a bit different. The plates look like they might be stamped steel on the Amazon set but I believe the Schwaben are solid cast. There is a pretty big difference in price. Still looks very similar.
 

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FWIW, I've used this one for years:
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It was from eBay, as Amazon didn't really have things like that (I think), and there are better ones in nicer cases for less money now on Amazon (these things are heavy, and the plastic hinges on the case have failed). The one posted above looks pretty much like the others I'm thinking about, and under $100, which is pretty great.
 
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+ 1 on the $40 being a bargain. Also, how about buying loaded struts with springs already installed?
 

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For ease of installation, I like the quick struts (pre assembled). I have put them in family and friends’ cars. They cost more unless you are shopping no name brands on Amazon — which may be fine, but do much less hassle. My own cars are high performance and quick struts are usually normal driving type, so I still need to disassemble and assemble struts.
 
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FWIW, I've used this one for years:
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It was from eBay, as Amazon didn't really have things like that (I think), and there are better ones in nicer cases for less money now on Amazon (these things are heavy, and the plastic hinges on the case have failed). The one posted above looks pretty much like the others I'm thinking about, and under $100, which is pretty great.
I have the same set but in blue case. I have now removed tens of springs with it. I'd say go with this one and definitely avoid the classic design listed in this thread - the one for 23$. It always moves on the spring - a few times it almost fell off for me, as the spring twists. I think the devil designed this tool. Definitely avoid.
 

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@Hohn great point on owning the tool Vs renting the tool. While the Maddox tool is to small for the OP application, anyone needing a Maddox size tool and debating buying Vs renting. Just buy the tool, its on sale for $23 so zero excusses.

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These ones wont fit over the fat ford expedition springs. Ask me how I know.
 

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@Hohn great point on owning the tool Vs renting the tool. While the Maddox tool is to small for the OP application, anyone needing a Maddox size tool and debating buying Vs renting. Just buy the tool, its on sale for $23 so zero excusses.

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I wouldn't purchase them again now that I'm in a better position in life, but I purchased a set of these when I as younger when my wife and I couldn't afford a pot to piss in. I've done A LOT of full size trucks and SUV's with these and they have held up. I don't recommend them, purely from a safety standpoint, but they do work. Being a cheap a$$, I continue to use them. :D

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I put white lithium grease on the threads every time I use them to reduce the friction and keep the threads cool when cranking down on them. If you don't, the threads will get HOT, and that will lead to failure/injury over time. Surprisingly, I haven't noticed any stretch in the thread pitch.
 
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I have the same set but in blue case. I have now removed tens of springs with it. I'd say go with this one and definitely avoid the classic design listed in this thread - the one for 23$. It always moves on the spring - a few times it almost fell off for me, as the spring twists. I think the devil designed this tool. Definitely avoid.
I was watching YT videos way back the first time I was going to do springs, and more than one had a claw-style slip. One shot out of the wheel well while two professional mechanics were demonstrating the process - they were clearly spooked, and made glib statements like "That's why you have to be really careful with these!" but finished the video. I noped out on that style compressor immediately - I'd wind up with one in my teeth...

I've done over a dozen springs with mine, and loaned it out a couple times. Everybody seems to like it. :dunno:
 

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I was watching YT videos way back the first time I was going to do springs, and more than one had a claw-style slip. One shot out of the wheel well while two professional mechanics were demonstrating the process - they were clearly spooked, and made glib statements like "That's why you have to be really careful with these!" but finished the video. I noped out on that style compressor immediately - I'd wind up with one in my teeth...

I've done over a dozen springs with mine, and loaned it out a couple times. Everybody seems to like it. :dunno:
Exactly. After I have heard stories of broken teeth and noses I noped out of those claw ones very fast.
 

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I wouldn't purchase them again now that I'm in a better position in life, but I purchased a set of these when I as younger when my wife and I couldn't afford a pot to piss in. I've done A LOT of full size trucks and SUV's with these and they have held up. I don't recommend them, purely from a safety standpoint, but they do work. Being a cheap a$$, I continue to use them. :D

WORD OF CAUTION
I put white lithium grease on the threads every time I use them to reduce the friction and keep the threads cool when cranking down on them. If you don't, the threads will get HOT, and that will lead to failure/injury over time. Surprisingly, I haven't noticed any stretch in the thread pitch.
Several decades ago when I was in the same financial position I made a set of similar design, they tended to slip around the coil to the point that I had to back them off and reset. Scary in most cases, dangerous with all but the most weakest/smallest springs. They have their place which would be in videos about how they compress springs in Pakistan or India.
 

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FWIW, I've used this one for years:
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I just used the Schwaben version of this for the first time. There is no comparison between using this and the two-piece style with the hooks and threaded rods. It is a completely different experience. Had I known, I would have bought it years ago.

Get this style.
 

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I have used this type on smaller car springs and it worked very well without feeling like my life was in jeopardy at any point. I would have felt better the some higher grade steel in the u-bolts in the version I had though. Just take your time with one of these to keep it balanced and it is ok.

All this being said, I do not know the case of the OP, but buying the full strut assemblies with the spring may make good sense to mostly avoid the safety issues by going that route vs spending a lot for a pro-grade compressor + cage to feel more comfortable. Bulky but safe pro grade compressors would also take up a lot of space. So it may not make a lot of sense for infrequent DIY work. In Michigan where I am the bushings etc also get pretty beat up. So by time you replace all those, I doubt much is being saved to feel good about all the jeopardy.

Full assemblies are sold a lot now and the prices are not that high for at least the car that I last did this on. It somewhat reminds me with the situation with CV joint / drive shafts: very few rebuild them now since it would cost as much as the full assemblies and it is a messy (but not unsafe) job. So outside of special circumstances, I do not think many people rebuild them anymore. Strut + spring assemblies seem to be going that direction too.
 

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I just used the style pictured in the post above on my 2018 BMW and they worked fine. I have the claw type as well. I don’t put the quick struts on my personal cars since they are high performance but I have put them on other cars and agree that pre-assembled is easier.
 

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Several decades ago when I was in the same financial position I made a set of similar design, they tended to slip around the coil to the point that I had to back them off and reset. Scary in most cases, dangerous with all but the most weakest/smallest springs. They have their place which would be in videos about how they compress springs in Pakistan or India.
I also made a set. Probably one of the dumbest things I have made over the years. I should have put on some hockey gear when I used them. They went straight to the scrap bin when I finished.
 

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i have been using this one for a few years, from tacoms to ford raptors, works perfect
Have the same looking one from Eastwood. Works fine, maintain a healthy amount of respect around compressed springs. I also used a couple of the cheaper blue point(look like the OEM) single screw MacPherson strut compressor to augment the Schwaben, my coils were fatter in the middle and I wanted insurance. Snap-on used to sell the MacPherson Spring compressor with 3 pieces vs the typical 2 piece sets, I would buy 2 sets to have 4.

The wall mounted OTC or Brannick are superior(still have to be careful) and worth paying for if you can find a used deal.
Like adding safety, using the Schwaben copy and one or two of the OEM MacPherson onces.

Avoid any loaner spring compressor tool, the shear pins can be replaced with inferior ones, I have seen a loaner break and lucky a body part was not in the way of the spring trajectory and that was on a mid size vehicle.
 
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