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AndrewV

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They were dipped in unicorn pee. Idk, but never seen a pic of one messed up. So got to be strong wrenches.
 
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I'd take the Snap-On flank drive plus. Then sell them on eBay and use the money to buy a set of WrightGrips and numerous other miscellaneous items I'd like to own.

Aside from the ratcheting wrenches I posted....This is exactly what I was thinking.

Proto would be worth looking at too.
They have a wrightgrip/flankdrive + type open end too.
 

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Matco I have a lot of wrenches. I like a friend on mine's Matco set better than any I own.
 

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What makes Bonney special? What makes SO FDP so desired?

Same thing that makes every other wrench special. The emotion and confidence the person using them gets.

I have some Bonney too. They are good, they finish jobs. But to me they are not at the top of the stack, close but not the very best.
 
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for free? snap-on fdp

provided there is no silly catch like the snappys will be a 10 pc set while something like tekton would be a more complete set
 

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Absolutely with out a doubt Snap-on flank drive.
This is probably my last post on "what hand tool is best" because it is mostly pointless.

The guy that bought a set of [insert brand] and liked them, never broke them, and realized he paid less than 1/2 of what Snap-on wrenches would cost, will SWEAR until the day he dies they are just as good. They are not. That guy is also most likely a hobbyist, and not a professional mechanic. I am not saying everyone needs to buy only Snap-on. I wrenched professionally for 17 years. I have Snap-on, some old Craftsman, SK, Mac, Matco, Bonney, Williams, Proto, and a few second rate (but hey, made in the USA, just like a lot of second rate tools in the 60's and 70's). Even have a couple of Wright tools. Nothing wrong with them.

Nothing wrong with most of the brands I named above. Most are a decent value. Although, I cannot for the life of me understand anyone defending the Matco brands. Perhaps their quality control has improved since they first split from Mac. I was snookered into buying some Matco tools in that first year, and they ****. I GAVE away the wrenches, saved a Phillips screwdriver in case I need it as a cheap punch or something (head is stripped and I only used it a few times) and haven't decided what to do with the most recent broken socket.

I also don't get the obsession of a few for Bonney tools. They are OK, but nothing special to me. Same for any SK tools. Just barely one step better than Craftsman.

Flame away.
 

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Absolutely with out a doubt Snap-on flank drive.
This is probably my last post on "what hand tool is best" because it is mostly pointless.

The guy that bought a set of [insert brand] and liked them, never broke them, and realized he paid less than 1/2 of what Snap-on wrenches would cost, will SWEAR until the day he dies they are just as good. They are not. That guy is also most likely a hobbyist, and not a professional mechanic. I am not saying everyone needs to buy only Snap-on. I wrenched professionally for 17 years. I have Snap-on, some old Craftsman, SK, Mac, Matco, Bonney, Williams, Proto, and a few second rate (but hey, made in the USA, just like a lot of second rate tools in the 60's and 70's). Even have a couple of Wright tools. Nothing wrong with them.

Nothing wrong with most of the brands I named above. Most are a decent value. Although, I cannot for the life of me understand anyone defending the Matco brands. Perhaps their quality control has improved since they first split from Mac. I was snookered into buying some Matco tools in that first year, and they ****. I GAVE away the wrenches, saved a Phillips screwdriver in case I need it as a cheap punch or something (head is stripped and I only used it a few times) and haven't decided what to do with the most recent broken socket.

I also don't get the obsession of a few for Bonney tools. They are OK, but nothing special to me. Same for any SK tools. Just barely one step better than Craftsman.

Flame away.

so......in summary

it is pointless to comment yet you do so anyway.

unless you proclaim on snap-on being the best you are most likely a hobbyist and for sure not a pro.

you think that people who like bonney are obsessed.

it is ok for you to stir the pot but anyone else who responds is "flaming".

whatever man............:eyecrazy::eyecrazy::eyecrazy:
 
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I think this thread has turned into favorites, or what peoples opinion is on the wrenches they have used. The best you've used, not the actual best wrench.

Sk is more than one step above craftsman. Those old matco wrenches being junk..I doubt it. Those should be bonney era? I also like the armstrong made matcos.
 

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can go into a "room" and get one free set of combo wrenches?
no strings attached?
no catch?
tax free?
wont put my name on a calling or email list?

i guess my real answer would be SO FDP
i kinda want those, but my made in USA huskys i bought 20 years ago have never let me down, so i never came off the dough for SO.

unless this "room" has a NOS set of SK full polish combo wrenches from the 80s.
yup, than that's my answer...

You mean like these? :evil:
 

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No elaboration on why/price etc.
If you entered a room and you could choose one for free.
Which set ?

I think this thread has turned into favorites, or what peoples opinion is on the wrenches they have used. The best you've used, not the actual best wrench.

Sk is more than one step above craftsman. Those old matco wrenches being junk..I doubt it. Those should be bonney era? I also like the armstrong made matcos.

of course it went off track. the op's original post is quoted above. he asked for what set would you take if you could get one for free. nothing else.

i don't mind going off track if someone asks a question or has a comment. the multi paragraph rant about how snap-on is the best and if you choose anything else.................well anyway that is just childish and stupid. sorry to the op for his thread being trolled.
 

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so......in summary

it is pointless to comment yet you do so anyway.

unless you proclaim on snap-on being the best you are most likely a hobbyist and for sure not a pro.

you think that people who like bonney are obsessed.

it is ok for you to stir the pot but anyone else who responds is "flaming".

whatever man............:eyecrazy::eyecrazy::eyecrazy:


You tell em SK:thumbup:

Lots of great wrenches named here. I have bought and sold most all of them used. Talked with many mechanics about their favorites. Over all Snap on does make the strongest wrench because of the hardness of the steel they use. Bonney or any of their rebrands are thought of as the most comfortable wrench by many long time pros.

For me, I would choose Bonney made John Deere. Bonney because of comfort and the fact that I don't wrench full time and John Deere because they are cool and have excellent resale value.
 

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Absolutely with out a doubt Snap-on flank drive.
I agree. This is why:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40058
No need for flame wars. Just facts.
The Snap On combo wrench is thinner, longer, has an appreciably thinner box end (tho the reviewer above dismissed it, by my math the head was .026" smaller). But most importantly, check out the marks it makes on the nut. Snap On sockets work similarly as does the box end of this same wrench.

Snap On invented and patented off corner engagement. Snap On's competition is left only to steal Snap On's IP and manufacture off shore or wait until the patents expire. And just about everybody has. But Snap On will always be out front on such things because they have the research and engineers to do this level of work. And rest assured, and coming from a product designer, these designs are almost certainly made to work specifically if not exclusively with Snap On's in house manufacturing and metallurgical technologies. It has been shown here several times that even companies Snap On owns like Williams don't produce identical products.

That said, I would have little hesistation about buying Williams or Wright wrenches. But I think people who say they are equivelent are burying their heads in the sand.

I hasten to add, we saw some German magazine article where (unsurprisingly) the German Stahlwile or Gedore wrenches were shown to be stronger than Snap On. I don't recall the particulars, but that could be something to look at. As I recall, I think their critiera wasn't interesting to me. What I want is a wrench that can access the most restricted fasteners, and can remove fasteners without slipping, or rounding the fastener. I need no more strength that that which is required to remove passenger car hardware. So "strongest" is not meaningful to me. How and where the tool contacts the fastener is important, how easy it is to fit the tool, are things I can about most.

I bought a full set of industrial finish FDP wrenches (made before 2008) for less than $80. Hard to shop around when deals like that are out there. Here they are BTW after a bit of touch up work with cold gun bluing:

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Easy answer. Snapon all the way. Why? They are made from quality steel, finished beautifully, hold their value and you can easily replace one if you need to (i.e. find a driver or mail them in to Snapon mother ship). Plus, I like buying things from a company with a real presence. Heck, you can even buy stock in Snapon if you want to.

Try doing that with some of the other brands.
 

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I agree. This is why:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40058
No need for flame wars. Just facts.
The Snap On combo wrench is thinner, longer, has an appreciably thinner box end (tho the reviewer above dismissed it, by my math the head was .026" smaller). But most importantly, check out the marks it makes on the nut. Snap On sockets work similarly as does the box end of this same wrench.

Snap On invented and patented off corner engagement. Snap On's competition is left only to steal Snap On's IP and manufacture off shore or wait until the patents expire. And just about everybody has. But Snap On will always be out front on such things because they have the research and engineers to do this level of work. And rest assured, and coming from a product designer, these designs are almost certainly made to work specifically if not exclusively with Snap On's in house manufacturing and metallurgical technologies. It has been shown here several times that even companies Snap On owns like Williams don't produce identical products.

That said, I would have little hesistation about buying Williams or Wright wrenches. But I think people who say they are equivelent are burying their heads in the sand.

I hasten to add, we saw some German magazine article where (unsurprisingly) the German Stahlwile or Gedore wrenches were shown to be stronger than Snap On. I don't recall the particulars, but that could be something to look at. As I recall, I think their critiera wasn't interesting to me. What I want is a wrench that can access the most restricted fasteners, and can remove fasteners without slipping, or rounding the fastener. I need no more strength that that which is required to remove passenger car hardware. So "strongest" is not meaningful to me. How and where the tool contacts the fastener is important, how easy it is to fit the tool, are things I can about most.

I bought a full set of industrial finish FDP wrenches (made before 2008) for less than $80. Hard to shop around when deals like that are out there. Here they are BTW after a bit of touch up work with cold gun bluing:

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jeebus man........can't either you or that other dude read? the op asked what wrench set you would grab for free. he doesn't care why, he doesn't care about price. he asks for a simple answer.

nope can't do that. some people have to build an argument where there isn't any. ditch the multi paragraph i am right and you are wrong wrench envy stuff.
 
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Damn. I just ordered a set of FD plus :mad:. Wallet toaster for sure but it looks like I need to join that club. My metrics are the newest Proto ASD. Definitely really well made and grippy but the handles are kinda square-sharp on the hand.
You guys are convincing. :dunno:
 

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jeebus man........can't either you or that other dude read? the op asked what wrench set you would grab for free. he doesn't care why, he doesn't care about price. he asks for a simple answer.

nope can't do that. some people have to build an argument where there isn't any. ditch the multi paragraph i am right and you are wrong wrench envy stuff.

Are you a moderator? If not, shut up and stop wasting thread space criticizing other people's posts.
 

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some people talk just so they can hear themselves talk. they guy asks a simple question that can be answered in one line."i would love to have brand x for free if given the choice"

i am not the one telling people their choice is wrong if it isn't snap-on. it doesn't take a moderator to see who is wasting thread space.
 

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I'd take a set of Snap ons, sell them for ridiculous $$ to one of the anointed believers, and continue using my old Protos and Craftsman professionals.
 

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If I enter a room with wrenches...A full set from 5.5mm up to whatever they stop on with Hazet 600n :) But I already has my second dream wrenches! 2 sets of Stahlwille openbox 13 and 14!
 

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so......in summary

it is pointless to comment yet you do so anyway.

unless you proclaim on snap-on being the best you are most likely a hobbyist and for sure not a pro.

you think that people who like bonney are obsessed.

it is ok for you to stir the pot but anyone else who responds is "flaming".

whatever man............:eyecrazy::eyecrazy::eyecrazy:

You don't read very well do you?
I did not say it was pointless, just that it was mostly pointless, meaning these NORMALLY (just as this one did) degenerate into favorites.
I DID NOT say that people that like Bonney are obsessed. I said I don't understand the obsession a few have over Bonney.
I didn't say everyone who responds to me would be flaming. I simply recognized that because I gave an opinion some thin skinned assclown would get offended and flame. Wonder why I thought that?

Adam summed it up best when he said: "What I want is a wrench that can access the most restricted fasteners, and can remove fasteners without slipping, or rounding the fastener." Do I always need that good of a wrench? No. Does everyone need a set of Snap-on FDP? Absolutely not.

No, the OP didn't specifically say whether price would be a factor, but it is certainly implied, just because of the way it was put. These wrenches are FREE, which means price is no object.
 

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You don't read very well do you?
I did not say it was pointless, just that it was mostly pointless, meaning these NORMALLY (just as this one did) degenerate into favorites.
I DID NOT say that people that like Bonney are obsessed. I said I don't understand the obsession a few have over Bonney.
I didn't say everyone who responds to me would be flaming. I simply recognized that because I gave an opinion some thin skinned assclown would get offended and flame. Wonder why I thought that?

Adam summed it up best when he said: "What I want is a wrench that can access the most restricted fasteners, and can remove fasteners without slipping, or rounding the fastener." Do I always need that good of a wrench? No. Does everyone need a set of Snap-on FDP? Absolutely not.

No, the OP didn't specifically say whether price would be a factor, but it is certainly implied, just because of the way it was put. These wrenches are FREE, which means price is no object.
i read very well. well enough to know that calling someone an assclown can get you a vacation from ryan and well enough to know that long posts are often just hot air.

in case anyone is wondering i do have flank drive snap-on wrenches, mac knuckle saver and wright grip for comparison. i still pick bonney because i can.
 

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I would take a free Snap-on set and sell it off to buy maybe a Craftsman Pro USA set and then pocket the difference. But then I'm not a Pro and only work out of my garage on my own projects.

OH!!.... and..... IBTL
 
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