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94m5

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Sooooo you wanna sell me the spare unit? I would love to get 321 pump. Very nice machines.

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I'm not sure what the damned thing is even worth to be honest.

It spins freely, but has a bit of a screetch from inside, with no compression to speak of.

My grandpa was obviously aware of it because I've got TONS of NOS Kellogg parts. Bearings, valves, seats, seals....you name it. I was planning on rebuilding it then bagging it and then throwing it in a crate for storage.
 
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Jim Johnstone

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I'm not sure what the damned thing is even worth to be honest.

It spins freely, but has a bit of a screetch from inside, with no compression to speak of.

My grandpa was obviously aware of it because I've got TONS of NOS Kellogg parts. Bearings, valves, seats, seals....you name it. I was planning on rebuilding it then bagging it and then throwing it in a crate for storage.

First off, where are you located? I am in Canada so right off the hop it may be not worth the hassle to even bother trying to send it.
 

94m5

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Up nort, eh?


Colorado Springs, CO.


It would'nt be hard to build a shipping crate, it's just a customs/cost issue I suppose.


*EDIT* Getting off topic.....you can send me a PM if you'd like.
 

Mr onetwo

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Here's my Frankenstien, Kellogg 60 gal (orig 321 2hp ). Speedaire 3z492 horizontal with 5hp Dayton and starter switch $75. Pump is under power but plumbing is not done
Do you have any info on the motor in the picture?I have that exact motor.It has no markings on it at all....not sure how to wire it up.It has 11 leads under the wiring cover:dunno:.Any help would be much appreciated!
 

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fury9

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Do you have any info on the motor in the picture?I have that exact motor.It has no markings on it at all....not sure how to wire it up.It has 11 leads under the wiring cover:dunno:.Any help would be much appreciated!
Dayton 5hp 1740 rpm 26amp pretty sure the leads are for spinning the motor one way or the other, will post pics later
 

Mr onetwo

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I was wrong about the leads coming out of my motor(going off feeble memory).:dunno:It has 6 plus a ground wire.They are numbered 1,2,3,4,5 & 8.It came to me with 1,2 & 5 connected to a black and 3,4 & 8 connected to a white.I took careful measurements and I believe it to be a Dayton 5HP with a 184T frame.Don't know the voltage range or RPM.I want to wire it up 230V single phase.Any help would be greatly appreciated!:thumbup:
 

mayday0017

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Mr onetwoSend me a PM and I'll do what I can to help you get yours wired up. I have the 7.5hp version and all of the manuals and what not for it. I believe the manual is a 5hp/7.5hp manual too so it might be as simple as me just sending you the pages you need...

If nothing else I can pull covers off and give you whatever info you need...
 

alxdgr8

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Just finished the refurb of my RAND4000 2-stage 80 gallon.
Redid all the wiring, new mag starter/pressure switch, 1/2" piping, IR ARO-Flo filters/regulators, float-activated auto drain, Hankisson HIT-25 refrigerated air dryer, and a few more things.

I still need a few more push-lock fittings to hook up the auto drain. I also need to upgrade to at least 3/8" quick connect fittings and get rid of my 1/4" stuff that's on most of my tools. Eventually should fab up a fan guard too.

Layout:
Compressor -> 5 micron main filter/regulator -> Refrigerated air dryer -> SPLITS TO a.) 5 micron filter/regulator/luber for air tools OR b.) 0.3 micron filter/regulator for painting/blasting/powdercoating
Auto drain also has a regulator in front of it since it's a poly bowl with a max input of 150psi

When I got it:
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Primered:
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Painted:
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Finished:
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fury9

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Do you have any info on the motor in the picture?I have that exact motor.It has no markings on it at all....not sure how to wire it up.It has 11 leads under the wiring cover:dunno:.Any help would be much appreciated!

Hope this helps!
 

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tonym

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Just finished the refurb of my RAND4000 2-stage 80 gallon.
Redid all the wiring, new mag starter/pressure switch, 1/2" piping, IR ARO-Flo filters/regulators, float-activated auto drain, Hankisson HIT-25 refrigerated air dryer, and a few more things.

I still need a few more push-lock fittings to hook up the auto drain. I also need to upgrade to at least 3/8" quick connect fittings and get rid of my 1/4" stuff that's on most of my tools. Eventually should fab up a fan guard too.

Layout:
Compressor -> 5 micron main filter/regulator -> Refrigerated air dryer -> SPLITS TO a.) 5 micron filter/regulator/luber for air tools OR b.) 0.3 micron filter/regulator for painting/blasting/powdercoating
Auto drain also has a regulator in front of it since it's a poly bowl with a max input of 150psi

When I got it:
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Finished:
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Nice job....Looks great.
 

9GUY9

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My freshly rebuilt compressor. 7.5hp Castair.




How it came home



Now all powder coated and pretty.



Compared to the old 60g Sanborn

 

jonathan75

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Mine is still in intensive care but expected to make a full recovery.
 

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CallousedCal

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Hi everyone! First post here. I just fell into this old 2005 Porter Cable 7hp (Weg motor) 2 stage cast iron innard single phase 240v compressor with a big fat 80 gallon tank for FrreeeeEEEEE!

It's too heavy for me to lift so I slid it off onto the ground from the back of my wife's van. (My truck is in the middle of a frame-off). Then put a come-along on the top of it and hooked it to a weight machine in the garage. I had my 9 yr old crank the come-along while I pushed it upright. Ugh!

It sloshed so I drained about a half gallon of water out of it. Then I wiggle-walked it into the corner of the garage and that's where it sits now. On the menu for this week:
  • Run some wire to it.
  • Test it
  • Run black pipe all around
  • Air everyone's tires in the neighborhood. I might make nightly excursions and stealth inflate:ninja:


Just kidding, I've got a classic GMC that I'm working on so it'll be my main source of power if all goes according to my evil plans.

Here's the pix.
 

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CallousedCal

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Thanks Nightshift. I never knew someone could be so proud of a compressor lol. I thought I was the only one until I read this great thread.

Today I chopped up some old mud tires and made some feet for her. I never would have thought of that without this place. My local sports store didn't have hockey pucks.

She'll get a good soap and water scrub on Friday after I get the wiring finished. Kinda excited to learn how to run 220. For others that might need to do it here's the parts list I put together. Total cost was like $55.00 :lol_hitti



  • 1x 10/2 Romex with ground, 50 ft. (or enough to reach the panel if you have to go that far)
  • 2x 4" square box with 1/2" knockouts ($0.99 ea)
  • 1x 4" square raise plate single hole (for receptacle to poke through)
  • 1x 4" square blank plate (to cover the box that will connect to existing wire. Not req'd if panel wired) ($0.91)
  • 6x 2 screw romex connectors
  • 1x NEMA L6-30 30 amp twist lock plug (also called a wire cap)
  • 1x NEMA L6-30R twist lock receptacle
  • 4x Big Blue Wire Nuts
  • 1x 8 ft. Gray Electric grade PVC Pipe ($1.99)
  • 1x Gray Pipe 90 Degree Bend with 1/2 inch knockout sized socket (to fit in 4" square box) ($2.64)
  • 4x 3/4" One Hole Straps (for holding the wire to the wall) ($0.98 bag of 4)
  • 1x 3/4 inch hydraulic hose 4ft long with connectors (Tractor Supply or auto store)

Then of course whatever black pipe you'd need to run around to wherever you want air.

Prices shown are at my local Lowes (I wouldn't go to a Home Depot if you paid me). I should get to hear her purr by Friday evening! :beer:
 
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LX-Markham

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Kinda excited to learn how to run 220.
Over the past week, I have learned a lot about 220, LOL.
Had my lift installed last Friday, went to wire it up and blew the breaker immediately. Electrician had the breaker wired up wrong. Took me a while to figure out the problem since I didn't know much about 220.
Then on Monday, I went to go plug in my compressor, and it wouldn't work. Again, the electrician miss-wired the receptacle this time. With my newly found 220 knowledge, I was able to diagnose the problem right away and got my compressor going.

Anyway..... here's my new (to me) compressor.
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BUGTHUG

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Over the past week, I have learned a lot about 220, LOL.
Had my lift installed last Friday, went to wire it up and blew the breaker immediately. Electrician had the breaker wired up wrong. Took me a while to figure out the problem since I didn't know much about 220.
Then on Monday, I went to go plug in my compressor, and it wouldn't work. Again, the electrician miss-wired the receptacle this time. With my newly found 220 knowledge, I was able to diagnose the problem right away and got my compressor going.

Anyway..... here's my new (to me) compressor.

I think you need to fire the electricians, before they burn your shop down or cause some body damage to you or someone else. 220 can and will kill you if not done right. Glad its all good now, and it looks good. Stay safe and enjoy:thumbup:
 

CNGsaves

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CallousedCal . . . . . great score with FREE compressor !!! That Porter Cable will be a lifetime worth of free air once you get it all set up. :thumbup:

Post up pics once you're all finished.
 

Sunbimmer

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My first ever arrived today, it's nothing compared to the impressive machines most of you guys have.
It will however do the jobs (just hobby stuff) I have planned for it so I hope.

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Mains supply : 230 V | 50 Hz

Max. engine power (S3 | S3%) : 1600 W | 50 %

Engine speed : 2850 1/min

Suction capacity : 250 L/min

Output power at 0 bar : 202 L/min

Output power at 4 bar : 142 L/min

Output power at 7 bar : 108 L/min

Max. operating pressure : 10 bar

Number of cylinders : 1 pcs

Tank volume : 24 L
 

70Camaro

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Scored this back in the Spring for FREE!! Saylor-Beall 705 5hp. A friend had it in a lean to behind his garage.


After taking her apart and painting, I put her back together.


Runs great!!
 

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[I have a 80 gal 5.5 horse 2 stage 220 amps. I have it wired but still have to run the lines. I'm not sure on the size of pipe and hose to go with though. any thoughts? sorry cant get the pic to rotate.:wtf:
 

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Marion3

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1954 devilbiss 330
60 gal tank
2hp westinghouse 1720rpm

Quiet enough you could run it in the kitchen
 

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EOC_Jason

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tight fit but it's mounted... running copper lines with a speedaire filter/regulator from Grainger.

Doesn't seem like it would get good air circulation with the flywheel right up against the wall...

But the bigger question is, how would you change the oil? Seems like a major pain to have to pull that thing out.
 

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[I have a 80 gal 5.5 horse 2 stage 220 amps. I have it wired but still have to run the lines. I'm not sure on the size of pipe and hose to go with though. any thoughts? sorry cant get the pic to rotate.:wtf:
That tank probably has a 3/4" NPT outlet. If you use 1/2" pipe, it will need a bushing to use 1/2". If you have to plumb over 100' of pipe, you will probably be better off using 3/4" for the main runs and 1/2" to the drops, especially if your are going to use a blast cabinet. Take a look at the www.tptools.com catalog, they have a good example of how to plumb your lines that will eliminate most all the moisture.
 

danny_barkley

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That tank probably has a 3/4" NPT outlet. If you use 1/2" pipe, it will need a bushing to use 1/2". If you have to plumb over 100' of pipe, you will probably be better off using 3/4" for the main runs and 1/2" to the drops, especially if your are going to use a blast cabinet. Take a look at the www.tptools.com catalog, they have a good example of how to plumb your lines that will eliminate most all the moisture.

I was going to say some of this as well as if you are going to make a condenser/Aftercooler on your wall for painting you would want to do that with 3/4"
 

NakeDiesel

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I'm finally getting to the point in my shop build that I'll be powering up my compressor in the next week hopefully after it sitting in storage for 5 years when I moved back home. It's an 80 gallon upright Eaton 2 stage 230 volt compressor. I've built a compressor/storage room for it to be housed in and am insulating the walls of the compressor room to add a level of quite in the shop. I bought it back in 2006 or 7 and sand blasted my 69 camaro and used it to spray a coat of epoxy on it before it too got stored over the last 5 years. I have an air dryer unit that I run the air through right after the compressor with an auto drain between them. I have an auto drain on both the compressor and the air dryer as well. My son and I got the first sets of airlines plumbed this weekend and up on the walls and we almost have all of the conduit for outlets ran in the shop and we will hopefully be pulling wires this weekend. We used rector seal on all of the pipe connections. Love that stuff but it gets everywhere when your working with it. The connections I made 6 years ago were still soft and pliable when I broke down the old air line sections I used in my 2 car garage to reconfigure them for my new shop.
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This section will eventually continue on down the wall to where my paint bay will be located and there I will install my filters/regulators for it.
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Dryer unit
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I will be using this for the full range of air tools from sanders to impacts, syphon feed sand blaster, future blasting cabinet, future tire machine, my cut master 52 plasma torch, painting cars and trucks and whatever else I can think of.
I still 4 more drops to make, one for the paint bay, and two along the west wall where my welding bench and plasma torch will be, as well as the drop that will give me an outlet on the outside front corner of the shop so I don't have to run hoses through the door every time I need to air something up. I'll put a valve on the inside before the outside run so all I have to do is switch it on.
 

jims09build

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Here's mine. I just finished it last night and fired it up. Complete rebuild. Had it for 40 years.

Jim
 

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