Compression - Show Off Your Compressor

[canuckian]

I travelled to Barrie from Sudbury to pick it up. . My local dealer wanted $2200 before tax.. the dealer in Barrie sold it to me for $1885 taxes in! And the bonus is I used my company truck so all I paid was time... 7 hours round trip.

It does seem like a well built unit.. the motor is a Leeson, and I dont see any "made in china" on the compressor head.. also the welding on the tank looks stellar. It also came with a mag starter ( square D) and a ball valve for the air output and water drain.

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The savings would definitely be worth the trip, especially if you didn't have to pay for fuel! You guys have the advantage of having more dealers for that kind of thing in Ontario. Most of the few industrial dealers we have down here don't seem to interested in dealing with non-industrial customers so that limits my choices even more.
What I've heard about Leeson has been all positive. In fact, everything I've heard about the DV units has been great. But, as mentioned, for me anyways, it's all about the dealer and if they want to work with you or not.
Enjoy the compressor! Mines still sitting on the crate till I can sort out my piping order and find a couple spare minutes to set the unit up.

 

[Rossco]

Well mine was on a wood base about 6" high.

I built another base about 5" high and walked the comp onto that, then another 4" high and so on so forth. Getting it onto pucks was the easy part.

 

[Fei8lo]

5HP IR from TSC. Some additions to the basic compressor.

Magnetic starter
B&M Transmission cooler for after cooler
Custom belt guard to hold cooler
Rand filter/water separator to remove water before entering tank
1/2 muffled drain valve
Intake silencer from McMaster Carr

Future plans
Custom tuned intake resonator with larger filter and baffles to further reduce intake noise and lay the intake assembly horizontal to give more vertical clearance.

Temporary setup while fabricating the belt guard cooler mount.

 

[C96]

Nice to see metal pipe as opposed to anything plastic…
Like the idea of the recessed hose reels

 

[GYPSY400]

Nice to see metal pipe as opposed to anything plastic…

Like the idea of the recessed hose reels

I agree.. Nice set up


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[J Persons]

5HP IR from TSC. Some additions to the basic compressor.

Magnetic starter
B&M Transmission cooler for after cooler
Custom belt guard to hold cooler
Rand filter/water separator to remove water before entering tank
1/2 muffled drain valve
Intake silencer from McMaster Carr

Future plans
Custom tuned intake resonator with larger filter and baffles to further reduce intake noise and lay the intake assembly horizontal to give more vertical clearance.

Temporary setup while fabricating the belt guard cooler mount.

Do you have the part number for the B&M trans cooler? I've been contemplating doing this for some time now.

 

[Fei8lo]

I am running the biggest passive cooler from B&M (70274). Drops the air temp from 400F down to ~100F. I had one cooler fail due to vibration because I was using black pipe with no vibration isolation (quick substitution after PTFE tubing/AN fittings failed). Fittings were returned and B&M replaced the cooler under warranty. The B&M cooler does a great job and when it failed (my fault), it was not the brazed joint but the aluminum base metal fatiguing.

After cooler makes a huge difference, it helps remove majority of the water and my tank stays pretty dry expect for the most humid of days.

 

[danny_barkley]

I am running the biggest passive cooler from B&M (70274). Drops the air temp from 400F down to ~100F. I had one cooler fail due to vibration because I was using black pipe with no vibration isolation (quick substitution after PTFE tubing/AN fittings failed). Fittings were returned and B&M replaced the cooler under warranty. The B&M cooler does a great job and when it failed (my fault), it was not the brazed joint but the aluminum base metal fatiguing.

After cooler makes a huge difference, it helps remove majority of the water and my tank stays pretty dry expect for the most humid of days.

Doesn't that water still end up in the tank?

I thought the aftercooler dropped the temp before the compressed air entered the tank, thus cooler air in the tank with the water vapor condensing into the tank and out of the airflow. Then the auto tank drain gets it out.

Isn't that how the aftercooler works?

 

[Fei8lo]

Doesn't that water still end up in the tank?

I thought the aftercooler dropped the temp before the compressed air entered the tank, thus cooler air in the tank with the water vapor condensing into the tank and out of the airflow. Then the auto tank drain gets it out.

Isn't that how the aftercooler works?

I run the air stream through a filter (large black filter with its own drain) before it goes into the tank to minimize water that ever enters the tank. I figure this will extend the life of the tank and replacing a filter is easier and cheaper than a tank in the future.

Also, I have noticed that with drain valves (1/4in manual or larger auto) on the bottom of tanks, they can freeze up or don't have enough flow to clear all the water in the tank. A small amount of water can collect on the weld seam that doesn't drain (welds aren't perfect and ridges can trap small amounts of water), but when using a full flow ball valve, there is enough flow to force all the water out.

 

[danny_barkley]

I run the air stream through a filter before it goes into the tank to minimize water that ever enters the tank.

Also, I have noticed that with smaller 1/4 drain valves (manual or auto) on the bottom of tanks, they can freeze up or don't have enough flow to clear all the water in the tank. A small amount of water can collect on the weld seam that doesn't drain (welds aren't perfect and ridges can trap small amounts of water), but when using a full flow ball valve, there is enough flow to force all the water out.

I was just getting ready to edit my post, I see your water trap there.

Thanx for the other info about the valves.

You aren't worried about the 200 psi rating on the cooler?

 

[Fei8lo]

I was just getting ready to edit my post, I see your water trap there.

Thanx for the other info about the valves.

You aren't worried about the 200 psi rating on the cooler?

I was worried about the 200 PSI pressure test ratting of the cooler at first but it was the only affordable after cooler I could find at the time. My biggest concern was if it did fail, would it be dangerous. I figured the cooler was designed to withstand over 200PSI and 175PSI should not be a major issue. After seeing one fail and how little of a problem it was (compressor still managed to put 160PSI into the tank with 1in long tear in the cooler) I was not hesitant anymore about using the cooler. Once the cooler was mounting using flexible lines cooler and rubber grommets, failure is not an issue anymore (current cooler has been going for 2 years now).

Also, a cooler this big is not really needed, only the top 1/3 of the cooler is warm/hot (I can still place my hand on the hot fins but not really at pipe inlet fitting), the rest of the cooler pretty much feels like ambient temperature. You can use old AC condensers which are rated for higher pressures if you are concerned with the pressure rating, but most that I found had smaller ports, more fragile fins, and were not nearly as cheap.

Below is a picture of how the cooler was hard plumbed before it failed. The vibration was so bad that the whole cooler would oscillate close to 1/2in. Even with the horrible vibration, the cooler lasted close to a year. The failure had everything to do with the vibration with the hard pipe and little to do with the pressure.

 

[danny_barkley]

I was worried about the 200 PSI pressure test ratting of the cooler at first but it was the only affordable after cooler I could find at the time. My biggest concern was if it did fail, would it be dangerous. I figured the cooler was designed to withstand over 200PSI and 175PSI should not be a major issue.

Got a link to that water trap?

 

[Fei8lo]

Got a link to that water trap?

I am using this filter with metal bowl.

http://manualarchive.ingersollrandp...oducts/Air System Components/253XX-***-EN.pdf

I got it cheap on ebay. Unfortunately it had some rust and I placed it in evaporust and it took the rest of the protective coating off (accelerated rusting now). I will be replacing it with different filter in the future.

Anything with protective coatings, do not put in evaporust or WD40 rust soak, it may stripe the coating off. I learned that the hard way.

 

[tribbles]

I inherited this when my dad passed away. I just need to haul it across Texas now. (That Walker's already in my garage.)

 

[b-body-bob]

No photos but I found a neat compressor in my elderly (age, not spirit) neighbor's garage. It's on about a 60 gallon tank, and has two small pumps driven by one motor with two belts and pulleys on it. I've got to go back and pull the bottom plug since it probably hasn't been drained since her husband passed in 84. I didn't have my eye glasses so I couldn't read the tank tag to find the tank YOM.

I was in there putting the deck belts back on her mower - a 1969 Wheel Horse. She's 81 and still mows her own grass. Like a boss.

I've asked her at least 10 times that if she ever sells any of that stuff, to make me the first person she calls.

 

[zkdiesel]

2 new clunkers I just bought cheap for work
the single cyl is one is absolutely huge! piston bigger than a cat c10!
the three cylinder is also a monster
the van is a good reference for size for the one, and those are 11r22.5 semi truck tires behind the other

 

[Nick Ferry]

Figured I would show my set up. Easier to do in a video.

 

[danny_barkley]

Figured I would show my set up. Easier to do in a video.

Nice job!

 

[Nick Ferry]

thanks, this has got to be one of my favorite threads

 

[david63]

Never thought about mounting it in the attic. hummm.... nice.

 

[Waterloo Structures]

Guys I like your systems but dun wana share mine its kind of old and weird so feeling a bit embarrassed lol

 

[Nightshift]

Figured I would show my set up. Easier to do in a video.

Nick, well done man. Very slick. I just might do something similar myself. Here's one more thing you might consider adding to your wall panel ... a 120v hour meter. I put an hour meter on my compressor motor to keep track of how many hours its ran since the last oil change. Also, you didn't mention it, but with the compressor down in the basement out of sight ... you should have an auto-drain on your tank to blow off accumulated moisture every day. Cheers, Bill

 

[Nick Ferry]

Nick, well done man. Very slick. I just might do something similar myself. Here's one more thing you might consider adding to your wall panel ... a 120v hour meter. I put an hour meter on my compressor motor to keep track of how many hours its ran since the last oil change. Also, you didn't mention it, but with the compressor down in the basement out of sight ... you should have an auto-drain on your tank to blow off accumulated moisture every day. Cheers, Bill

Hour meter is a good idea, thanks. The panel upstairs was built before I had the nice air compressor so it didn't matter then. I will most likely add. I did originally have a HF auto drain but it leaked really bad. Now I just have a ball valve to drain it. I will most likely get a better quality auto drain to keep up with moisture build up.

 

[BUGTHUG]

Guys I like your systems but dun wana share mine its kind of old and weird so feeling a bit embarrassed lol

its OK, I'll walk you thru this. Don't be ashamed of anything you have, Rule one, on GJ someone WILL ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING NICER
Just post some pictures and be happy, we show ours, you show yours. Its kindda like playing doctor, without all the insurance forms

 

[shane71]

Those are some nasty compressors. like'em all

 

[GlenC]

Well, I now have a new project! ... Picked this up yesterday 150 psi max 28 cfm @ 100 psi, 1800 rpm... 7.5hp recommended

 

[danny_barkley]

Well, I now have a new project! ... Picked this up yesterday 150 psi max 28 cfm @ 100 psi, 1800 rpm... 7.5hp recommended

I guess you wrecked your Harley?

 

[GlenC]

I guess you wrecked your Harley?

For "Air-Cooled", I"m a Porsche guy! My understanding was that this configuration of the Atlas Copco compressors were designed by Porsche...

Just hope the insides are okay... anyway a nice find for $20 and a 200mi drive!

 

[danny_barkley]

For "Air-Cooled", I"m a Porsche guy! My understanding was that this configuration of the Atlas Copco compressors were designed by Porsche...

Just hope the insides are okay... anyway a nice find for $20 and a 200mi drive!

Know a little something about that as well...

http://www.turbonet.biz/misc/930/DSCF0598.JPG

 

[GlenC]

Know a little something about that as well...

http://www.turbonet.biz/misc/930/DSCF0598.JPG

Nice! Motec or ? for the twin plug? Heads drilled for 10mm spark plugs?

 

[danny_barkley]

Nice! Motec or ? for the twin plug? Heads drilled for 10mm spark plugs?

Electromotive Tec3r for the ECU and 14mm plugs, 3.2 Carrera Manifold, 964 CAMs, 3.4 L, JE Pistons, blah, blah...

 

[GlenC]

Well, my compressor deal is either a bust or a really big project... Two broken rods �� Parts not available individually... $500+ for complete cylinder assembly

 

[danny_barkley]

Well, my compressor deal is either a bust or a really big project... Two broken rods �� Parts not available individually... $500+ for complete cylinder assembly

Ouch, that hurts just reading it.

 

[GlenC]

Now if I had a CNC mill, I could make a couple H-beam billet rods and have a couple JE pistons made.... Or try and find another!

 

[b-body-bob]

Now if I had a CNC mill, I could make a couple H-beam billet rods and have a couple JE pistons made.... Or try and find another!

sounds like it'd be 500 either way you slice and dice it, maybe more.

 

[GlenC]

Yea, just need to wait for another for parts, or this becomes backup parts...

 

[AP514]

. I will most likely get a better quality auto drain to keep up with moisture build up.

Here you go...http://www.ebay.com/itm/WILKERSON-A...ulic_Valves_Parts&hash=item43c8963abe:rocker:

 

[Nick Ferry]

Here you go...http://www.ebay.com/itm/WILKERSON-A...ulic_Valves_Parts&hash=item43c8963abe:rocker:

Thanks, that will most likely be the route I go.

 

[Nick Ferry]

My workstation with built-in air compressor. It's not a short video but the air compressor stuff starts 9 minutes in. My wife thinks I have an unhealthy obsession with putting an air compressor in everything.

 

[C96]

Wow, awesome job Nick!

Don’t know if you’re a craftsman, or a video maker

Either way, great job on both!