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cornfield customs

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Since 2013 I have had the idea to build a streamliner styled after the red head. after years of trying to get some guys to join up with me and help out i decided to just do it on my own. I am dedicating weekends and evenings to this car as money permits. I got started on the chassis last weekend. i have about 30 hours in total to this point. hopefully about done bending and notching tube, then i can move onto axles and suspension

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I like it! Redhead was one of my favorite Bonneville streamliners. If you ever saw the movie "The World's Fastest Indian" it made an appearance there along with some other famous old cars like Mickey Thompson's Challenger.

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You mocked up that entire frame in 30 hours?? Wow, that's impressive. What tubing bender/notcher do you have?
 
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You mocked up that entire frame in 30 hours?? Wow, that's impressive. What tubing bender/notcher do you have?

my bender is a Baileigh Industrial RBD-175 hydraulic bender, and my notcher is a baileigh TN-250. some of the tubes were notched with a port-o-band and a grinder. just depends on the angle of the notch
 

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Looks like a great project. Hand forming the body I'd guess?


Please don't forget the "Moon eyes".
 

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Wow, fantastic job.
That will most certainly be a joy to weld.
DOM or Chromoly?

I love your shop and your work is second to none
 

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Awesome project, what will use for power? After checking out your website, I never imagined I'd be lusting for a Bug-atti!!
 

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Really cool, I'm excited to learn something about streamliners! Is this being built to any sanctioning bodies safety specs?
 
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Beautiful work. You are clearly very talented.

I have to ask, what is the deal with the Mercedes GP racer looking car on the cribbing?
 

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I think maybe you need to put that waterjet to use cutting out some frame brackets for that car!

I am still blown away with all the tubing work that was done in 40 hrs...

Have Jet will cut...

I had a hundreds hours in the last Tube Chassis Car I built myself...Mike has some mad skilzs!!!
 

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Beautiful work. You are clearly very talented.

I have to ask, what is the deal with the Mercedes GP racer looking car on the cribbing?

Since you're interested in that style, I have some info.

Frank Kurtis built primarily race cars, but he also produced a few street cars, in the style of the traditional front-engined Indy roadster. The Muntz Jet was an adaptation of the Kurtis street roadster.

Here's a car that raced multiple times at Indy, and was once owned by Smokey Yunick of Daytona Beach FL and NASCAR fame. It's a Kurtis KK500 G.
https://www.conceptcarz.com/profile/3803,9197/1957-kurtis-kraft-500g.aspx

I knew the original owner of the car, Lee Elkins, of Kalamazoo MI. Lee had commissioned the car from Frank Kurtis, with a turbocharged Offenhauser. Lee Elkins often used #73 for his race cars. Lee Elkins was a colorful character who began racing at Indianapolis as a team owner in the early 1950's, and who stayed in the event until the late 1970's. Sometimes he had two entries in the Indy 500 race. He never won, but he put a car on the pole in 1958. In a horrible bad luck incident, the car was involved in a first-lap wreck, when Ed Elisian tried to occupy the same space as Elkins' driver **** Rathmann, the wreck causing a huge accident and Rathmann was out of the race, a DNF. Unfortunately, a popular driver, Pat O'Connor, was killed in the pile-up. Fifteen of the 33 cars in the race were involved in the wreck. It also happened to be the initial Indy 500 for AJ Foyt.
http://sports.usatoday.com/2016/04/02/spectacular-firstlap-crash-kills-pat-oconnor-in-1958-indy-500/

Elkins' son and I were best friends and graduated high school together. He once told me, "my father went-broke twice racing, fortunately he made it rich three times!" Elkins owned a motor freight business, his primary contract was hauling steel from the Chicago/Gary area plants where it was produced to the factories where it was used. He had dozens of freight terminals across the country under the banner of McNamara Motor Express, which was often the name he used in racing. He also owned and raced midgets and sprint cars. He participated with a Kurtis KK500 G in the Race of Two Worlds in Monza Italy, qualifying his car in third, the race was to settle the question of "who's faster, European cars, or Indy roadsters?" In convincing fashion, an Indy roadster won, piloted by Jimmy Bryan. It was three heats, a total of 500 miles, and the average speed of 160 mph bested that year's Indy 500 pace of 135.6 mph, by a cool 24+ mph.

In 1958's competition, Bob Veith set a lap record of 186.4 mph in a Kurtis KK500 G, powered by Offenhauser. This design definitely has potential!

https://www.conceptcarz.com/profile/3803,9197/1957-kurtis-kraft-500g.aspx
This Kurtis roadster is still being run today.

The Cornfield Customs roadster is a throwback to those mighty Kurtis Kraft Offenhauser roadsters.
 
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so some of the progress has been a little slower than before. i had sent some pics of the chassis progress to Kiwi Steve of the SCTA to get approval with work so far. took a little time to hear back since he was at the USFRA meet. heard back this week and everything is looking good so far. i was able to pick up a donor engine to start mocking that up. decided to go with a 4BT common rail Cummins Diesel since the record is pretty soft at 170 mph. so hopefully this weekend i will be able to get the excess stuff removed off the front clip and the engine set in place, and start on some suspension plans in motion.

also with the great expense of this en devour we decided to set up a kick start to help with getting some sponsorship to take some of the sting out of the investment side of things. we are offering some cool rewards for our backers so please check it out. we are also looking for a couple major sponsors / team members to help out with the drive train portion. So if anyone is interested in helping in that department please hit me up

here is a link to our kickstarter page

https://www.kickstarter.com/project...ille-streamliner-project?ref=created_projects

thanks in advance and i will post up some more progress pics this weekend
 
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a little progress yesterday. got the donor engine pulled out of the front frame clip and set in the chassis. still trying to decide if i want to run the engine vertical or over on its side. either way the engine will be dry sumped to help with clearance. as far as the transmission i am thinking of running a Jericho if i go manual or a 5 speed allison if i go automatic. just depends on clearances when i get engine placement decided


















also please check out our kickstarter page to become a sponsor and get some cool rewards for helping us out

https://www.kickstarter.com/project...ille-streamliner-project?ref=created_projects
 
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Nice looking project, but I have some concerns about the arrangements of the chassis tubes. The center lines of all intersecting tubes should go thru the same point, in order to not induce other forces at the joints.
In case you are wondering, I am a Certified Engineering Technologist (In Ontario Cana da_
 

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Nice looking project, but I have some concerns about the arrangements of the chassis tubes. The center lines of all intersecting tubes should go thru the same point, in order to not induce other forces at the joints.
In case you are wondering, I am a Certified Engineering Technologist (In Ontario Cana da_

That would turn the length of the rail into individual cells and hamper a full length load. Space frames require some twist or they just break into pieces.



(you would think an Engineer would know that) :lol_hitti
 

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I don't agree with your comment. Look at any space frame vehicle, the center lines of the connected tubes all go thru the same point, as I pointed out.
I don't want this to disrupt Mr. Corfields thread so let's drop it.
 
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Nice looking project, but I have some concerns about the arrangements of the chassis tubes. The center lines of all intersecting tubes should go thru the same point, in order to not induce other forces at the joints.
In case you are wondering, I am a Certified Engineering Technologist (In Ontario Cana da_

not even sure i understand what your talking about. i will just keep on keeping on since it ignorance is bliss
 

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I’m kinda stumped at what racer says too as all the points do touch at intersecting points. I’ve built a few race cars in my days and that chassis looks perfectly fine. Except for maybe that big ol diesel, I think two blown flatheads would fit a lot nicer.
 
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I’m kinda stumped at what racer says too as all the points do touch at intersecting points. I’ve built a few race cars in my days and that chassis looks perfectly fine. Except for maybe that big ol diesel, I think two blown flatheads would fit a lot nicer.

yea i would rather have a different drive train choice. you have to find an achievable record and shoot for that. for example the record to chase would be about 400 with 2 blown flat heads, if you wanted to run a small block the record to chase is about 370. a 3.9 liter diesel is 170, so a lot more attainable and cheaper to get a record

the only thing i can think that racer is talking about is my diagonals not being in the exact corner of the uprights. which i dont do so i dont have to cut one of the notch corners off to get in place, and tech inspectors can see it is welded everywhere. or that the helmet hoops that run at an angle dont continue down to bottom rail at the same angle, which is not required in NHRA or SCTA rules.
 
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