Cornwell Fine Tooth Ratchet

[Rnz520]

So today I was on the truck of my very good Cornwell dealer (biggest dealer along with Matco in the area) and I asked him about the fine tooth ratchets when he pointed to one he had just received from corporate.
The chrome is very nice, and I mean very nice, very fine tooth ratcheting action with a very stiff pawl spring and very positive engagement. Its a 72 tooth design.
He also told me that rebuild kits were not available at the moment so if I were to break it he would just give me a new one all together.
It didnt say where it was made but he assured me that it was made in Ohio along with the other Cornwell hardline, which made me happy because if it was chinese I would have been angry.
Price he quoted me at 86 bucks but since I had been asking him about them for a while he gave it to me for 70 .
Anyways, I wish I could post some pics but I cant figure out my cell phone camera.
I am very happy with this ratchet, its a nice piece for my home tools which I lack.

 

[Fedwrench]

This isn't a round head swivel ratchet with a blue black handle is it?

We need pictures stat!!!!!

 

[Bart Simpson]

This isn't a round head swivel ratchet with a blue black handle is it?

We need pictures stat!!!!!

Those 3 are in the flyer for $150.

See the link.
http://www.cornwelltools.com/Promotions/Promotions.php

 

[p1mlb03]

So today I was on the truck of my very good Cornwell dealer

Is your dealer Mike Woods?

 

[Rnz520]

YES I figured it out.
No its not the roundhead swivel set, I looked at that one too.
And no its not Mike Woods its Paul Walsh. Great guy.

 

[Bart Simpson]

Now you have to open it up and show us the guts.
Is it Dual pawl similar to Snap On ?

 

[Fedwrench]

I'm blind and can't read the part number, can you post the part number please?

The rubber handled swivel ratchet set is made in Taiwan. I was asking to make sure you had bought a different ratchet.

It's strange to see a different style of Cornwell ratchet after all of these years. Did your dealer happen to mention if Cornwell was going to make a flex head version, long handle models or different drive sizes with the 72 tooth action?

Thanks for sharing,

 

[p1mlb03]

Nice, I will have to check those out next time I see the Cornwell guy.

 

[Rnz520]

JR72 is the part number.
He did mention to me that he wanted them to make them longer and flex too, but he wasnt sure when that was happening, but he did seem very excited of the extra business this ratchet could bring, he can now compete with SO and Matco. Its a very hefty and solid feeling ratchet, more so than my dual 80.
I plan on taking it aprt but its different than other ratchets I have seen, so maybe tomorrow if I dont get to it tonight.

EDIT: here are the pics, large single pawl with TWO stiff springs, I have a feeling this ratchet will not jump when getting pulled on hard and can probably take a beating, just solid. Also put some Marvel Mystery Oil in there and its even better

 

[wrenchr]

YES I figured it out.
No its not the roundhead swivel set, I looked at that one too.
And no its not Mike Woods its Paul Walsh. Great guy.

It that black part the gear or a cover? I want one pronto!!

 

[Rnz520]

black part is the gear AND cover, it spins as you turn the ratchet

 

[autoace]

I didn't see my Cornwell dealer this week, due to a schedule conflict. I will be anticipating the sight of those ratchets. I severed my ties with Cornwell corporate, don't bet the farm that those ratchets are 100% USA made, because I doubt they are. If they are not stamped USA, they are most likely not. At first the ratchets were supposed to be imported, I think the body is USA and the guts outsourced.

Unlike Snap-on, Cornwell is not a global wide tool distributor, so there is no reason for them to avoid the USA stamp due to marketing, I bet they a USA/Asian hybrids. They are probably good quality, glad they kept the traditional handle design.

 

[nato]

Cornwell fine tooth?!?!?! My dealer & I just had this conversation last week! He said he was going to a rally/show/meeting last weekend and was gonna ask them why they haven't produced a fine tooth setup yet. He told me that besides myself, that same week he "lost" 5-6 sales for a fine tooth because they haven't come up with one yet. I'll definitely have to ask him about these when he comes on Thursday.

 

[Toolhorder]

Hmmm,
My Cornwell dealer was just saying how ALL Cornwell tools are made in the USA with USA steel unlike the other guys....

 

[justinmc]

Hmmmm I'd like to see a breakdown on parts sourcing as well. I would agree the guts are probably of china/taiwan origin since COO is not stamped on it anywhere. Nice looking ratchet not sure I'd give up a S/O dual 80 for it though. Mostly due to lack of support in my area. The killer for Cornwell IMHO is that I just don't have a local dealer/distrib. I've had a couple pieces that needed warrantied for awhile now and since I don't have a dealer they just sit there. Yeah I could send them in. However its kind of a hassle.

 

[Rnz520]

Hmmmm I'd like to see a breakdown on parts sourcing as well. I would agree the guts are probably of china/taiwan origin since COO is not stamped on it anywhere. Nice looking ratchet not sure I'd give up a S/O dual 80 for it though. Mostly due to lack of support in my area. The killer for Cornwell IMHO is that I just don't have a local dealer/distrib. I've had a couple pieces that needed warrantied for awhile now and since I don't have a dealer they just sit there. Yeah I could send them in. However its kind of a hassle.

You see thats the opposite for me, if for some reason anything Cornwell breaks or Matco the chances of it getting replaced are instant, I just have to make a call and meet up somewhere (they both live no more than 15 minutes away). My SO dealer has been kinda shaky when it comes to that, his truck is pretty empty, which is a shame, he is new and a nice guy but cant compete with Matco and Cornwell, not yet at least. Even my MAC dealer is pretty good when it comes to stock

 

[bushhawg73]

Thanks for the info, I am going to have to see if my dealer has one on Wednesday.

 

[arkangel06]

no USA stamp then I dont want it.

 

[mepilotunot]

I also have the JR72. So far everyone who has played with it wants one. Solid piece! I will confirm exactly where its made.

 

[mepilotunot]

Steel Forged in Albion PA with US steel. Then finished out at the Mogadore OH plant. Finish polished by an old women that's been there 4ver. The guts are all made in house. One of the last that still select the steel from pa. Will try to get some pics to post for you if anyone has an interest.

 

[quattrojon]

Steel Forged in Albion PA with US steel. Then finished out at the Mogadore OH plant. Finish polished by an old women that's been there 4ver. The guts are all made in house. One of the last that still select the steel from pa. Will try to get some pics to post for you if anyone has an interest.

Please post some pics if you can.

 

[mikevango]

Steel Forged in Albion PA with US steel. Then finished out at the Mogadore OH plant. Finish polished by an old women that's been there 4ver. The guts are all made in house. One of the last that still select the steel from pa. Will try to get some pics to post for you if anyone has an interest.

i am going to have to get then. Albion is a small town just down the road from me!!

 

[mepilotunot]

http://www.cornwelltools.com/Manufacturing/Manufacturing.php

This is still how its done! I will take pics when I am there.

 

[06wt]

y no usa stamp?

 

[Merkava_4]

I'm wondering why they cut the circle opening for the gear larger, and I'm also wondering why they went to a thumb lever. I'm wishing they had kept the traditional ratchet features with the small hole opening and the traditional reverse lever...

 

[nato]

My dealer was crapfaced last week wehen I brought this up to him. We both live about 45 min east of Mogadore, Cornwell's central h/q's and he had NO idea about this being available until he went to his dealer/trade show last weekend. He never even recieved any notification for when he updates his catalog inventory and recieves all the current promotional info. The higher-ups asked him how he found out about it (lol..gotta love being a member on garage journal and occaisionally knowing more than your dealers ) he told them and they said that I must have chatted w/ someone in California b/c for some strange reason, thousands of miles away, Cali. is their testing grounds for new tools. wtf I said?! We live in Ohio...
Cornwell tools are made in Ohio...why wouldn't we get 1st dibs on this stuff; or at least you would think?
Anyhoo, the 3/8" is the dry run w/ supposedly a 1/4" being worked on next, then variances of 3/8" then 1/2".

He said that the body is forged in Pa, using Pittsburgh sourced steel, but didn't have anything to say about the internals. He did say however, that when they load tested the 3/8", it withstood 400 ft/lbs before failing and he said the the part that failed was the square drive snapping off...no teeth being stripped or gears imploding. If this is true, than I am highly impressed. I also believe without seeing the guts, that it's a Matco type setup with a single, multitooth pawl on a regular 72tooth main drive gear according to what I was told.

 

[forceyoda]

Wow, leave the forum for a week and miss this. Are there any fine tooth ratchets out marked USA other than Wright?

None of my dual 80 or Matco 88 ratchets have "USA" on them, don't see why that would keep me from getting this.

 

[arkangel06]

Wow, leave the forum for a week and miss this. Are there any fine tooth ratchets out marked USA other than Wright?

None of my dual 80 or Matco 88 ratchets have "USA" on them, don't see why that would keep me from getting this.

Do your matco 88's have the comfort grip?

 

[ryannotbryan]

Wow, leave the forum for a week and miss this. Are there any fine tooth ratchets out marked USA other than Wright?

None of my dual 80 or Matco 88 ratchets have "USA" on them, don't see why that would keep me from getting this.

I have two dual 80's with USA stamped on the head. Is this an anomaly?

 

[nato]

None of my dual 80 or Matco 88 ratchets have "USA" on them, don't see why that would keep me from getting this.

None of my dual 80's are marked either, BUT, my Matco 12" locking/flex 3/8" 88 (forget # BRF128LF?) has usa stamped on the palm side of the handle...

 

[forceyoda]

Should have been clearer. I have three comfort grip Matco ratchets, one is the new 88 tooth and none of them say "USA" on them. I also have 6 dual 80 ratchets and an fnh100 and none of them say "USA". I like all of them and not having "USA" on the Cornwell wont make think less of it than the matco or snap on offerings.

 

[forceyoda]

I have two dual 80's with USA stamped on the head. Is this an anomaly?

Yes, they came with USA when they were first introduced then they did away with it. You popbably want to hold on to those.

 

[arkangel06]

Should have been clearer. I have three comfort grip Matco ratchets, one is the new 88 tooth and none of them say "USA" on them. I also have 6 dual 80 ratchets and an fnh100 and none of them say "USA". I like all of them and not having "USA" on the Cornwell wont make think less of it than the matco or snap on offerings.

The ratchet is made in the USA but the grip is not

This is why your matco ratchets do not say USA on them.

Go check out the non comfort grip matcos they will say USA.

 

[archfish]

Asked about this ratchet when I was on the Cornwell truck this morning. He (of course) had sold the last one at his last stop. On order for next week, I'll post a follow-up then.

Supposed to be a long handle and a flex version out in the next week or two also.

 

[tonydanzah]

None of my dual 80 or Matco 88 ratchets have "USA" on them, don't see why that would keep me from getting this.

my matco 88s are marked usa on them, but only on my chrome handles. The comfort grips, not so much.

 

[archfish]

On backorder now.... My drivers brother is also a Cornwell dealer, and is supposed to have a few. He is giving one to my driver for me. If I ever see the damn thing Ill post the pics etc....

 

[mepilotunot]

I Stand corrected...I spent a day at the plant in Oh where the new rachet was being assembled and even put a few together myself. The gear and paw are not made in house. Cornwell hopes to change this as soon as the patent drops. These things hold up under pressure!!! I will get some pics up soon of the trip. Let me tell you I have a new found sense of pride for the Cornwell line after watching the operations at the plant. I have one of these left that I demo. Any Cornwell questions feel free to drop me a pm.

 

[bimmer630]

Bumping this old thread. Does cornwell get the guts of these ratchets from the same people who make CARLYLE ratchets for NAPA? I have a hunch they are the same, even though the cornwell seems to have a dust cover on the top of the ratchet head, which the napa variant doesnt

 

[Brownsfan]

Possible they were the same. Cornwell fine tooth ratchet are 72t. Carlyle are 90t I think. Still may have been the same supplier though. But now Cornwell lists the fine tooth ratchet as 100% USA made in the catalog. Previously they were not listed as such. Because the guts were Taiwan made and the rest was USA made. Looks like they copied it and now make it in house. Possibly because the patent ran out?

 

[Wamsutta]

Bumping this old thread. Does cornwell get the guts of these ratchets from the same people who make CARLYLE ratchets for NAPA? I have a hunch they are the same, even though the cornwell seems to have a dust cover on the top of the ratchet head, which the napa variant doesnt

The round head ratchets are the same as round head Carlyle.

The pair head 72 tooth ratchets are Cornwell USA made ratchet bodies using Taiwan made internals because the Taiwan manufacturer still has an international patent on the internals.