Covering studs soon... What else should I put in the wall?

[bondsman]

This winter, I plan on insulating and drywalling the garage. The only things inside the walls are the electrical which consists of 2 outlets on each of the front (garage door), left and right walls. On the back wall, I have 2 sets of double outlets at my bench and a 120 switched outlet (for crappy oilless air compressor that I replaced). I have 240 going to a dryer type outlet for my welder. The welder has a long cord and I strategically placed it where I can reach anywhere in the garage and on the apron in front.

I plan on running the following:
240 to the new-to-me air compressor
240 to the garage door area so I can reach the driveway with the welder
240 to the future minisplit location (high center of back wall)
120 to the ceiling for a future drop light reel in front of lift
120 to future liftmaster opener
Copper air lines (better on inside of wall or outside and visible?)

I am not planning on running phone line and cable is a possibility.

What would ya'll suggest I run before I close it all up. Outlets in a specific place? How many on the ceiling?

 

[My Custom S]

Bondsman, I think if I were you I would run the copper air lines on the outside of the drywall only because if you ever want to add drops or if you need to repair a leak it will be easier to do so. For as inexpensive as CAT5 and RG6QS cable is, I would run that to an outlet as well for a future phone/data connection. I realize with wireless it isn't necessary but I guess I'm just old school. Putting a few outlets in the ceiling for a fan or a cable reel wouldn't be a bad idea either. Sounds like you're doing a great job with your plans! Good luck!

 

[Mr. Jean]

Possible water lines for future sink area?

Panel box and plug in outside wall for future RV hookup, for you or visiting friends?

Plug inlet for emergency generator with wiring for power to refrig and heat/AC units or whatever else needs power?

Lighting in attic/storage area?

 

[bondsman]

Thanks.... Makes sense to run the copper on the outside. Seriously thought about running cable and it is still in consideration. I am running one outlet in the overhead in front of the lift for a drop light. I have two industrial dayton fans on the walls. I guess I could hard wire those and drop a switch down to control them.
As far as air drops - one at the bench, one on each wall, one by the garage door and one at the parts washer. Thought about dropping air down both lift posts but I don't know how I would secure it to the posts.
I just don't want to finish it up and a year later wish I would have put something else in there.

 

[bondsman]

Possible water lines for future sink area?

Panel box and plug in outside wall for future RV hookup, for you or visiting friends?

Plug inlet for emergency generator with wiring for power to refrig and heat/AC units or whatever else needs power?

Lighting in attic/storage area?

Water will have to be run around concrete to the back wall and in through the outside. That would be for a sink only. No plans on a bathroom.
Never thought about an RV hookup. What kind of outlet is that? If I did that, I would just run it next to the garage door on the inside.
Emergency generator? Great idea.... But it is a detached garage and the only thing in the fridge is beer/water/coke.
I also have cathedral ceilings with no attic.

Those were all fantastic ideas.... Thank you.. My brother has a RV. I'll have to get with him on the hookup required.

 

[Matti]

I ran my copper air lines in the walls but they drop down from the ceiling. If I ever have a leak in the wall I can just run a new line down through the roof and on the outside of the wall.

 

[fatboy99]

How ever many outlets you have around your shop now DOUBLE them! I wish I had listend to my neighbor when I had the walls gutted in my shop to replace windows and the drywall the PO put up. Also consider wiring for a security system easy to do now.

 

[bondsman]

I thought about putting in more outlets... My garage is 24x36 and I have an outlet on each side of the garage door, 2 down each wall, and 2 doubles and a single on the back wall. There is an outlet on each side of the garage door outside as well as one in the side far back where my boat is.

 

[dougmac]

Wiring for the garage door opener buttons and door obstruction senors.

 

[mdbeck1]

...My brother has a RV. I'll have to get with him on the hookup required.

120V - 30 Amp is probably the most common. Run a separate line back to the breaker box and give it a breaker by itself. The plug should be available at the box store if not go to a local RV store. Also before you put the plug in think about where the RV will be sitting. You will want the plug within about 15 feet of the driver's side. You won't like the cord running across the driveway to poser the RV. If you are going to have an RV sitting there very often/long you will want water and/or a sewer drop. Note that the main entrance of most RVs is on the passenger side. It does make a difference. Mine sits in front of my garage but I can't see the front door of the RV from inside the house. If I had known that I would eventually have an RV I would have bought the house with the garage on the other side of the house.

 

[fflintstone]

you could stash a few grand in cash, a gun and ammo, rare bottle of scotch.

 

[bondsman]

you could stash a few grand in cash, a gun and ammo, rare bottle of scotch.

If I had a few grand, drywall would already be up... Now I can stash a few grand of your cash if you like. Now is the perfect opportunity while the studs are bare...

 

[PhantomEB]

speaker wires for surround sound?

 

[bondsman]

speaker wires for surround sound?

Good idea but I don't like anything loud while I am working in there. I want to be able to hold a conversation on my phone without having to turn down the radio. I haven't planned on a tv just yet.. I may go ahead and make provisions for that and run some surround wires for the future.

Definitely running the door opener safety wires..good call on that one.. Security system???? Don't really have a need for that. (now that I said that, all my **** will be gone tomorrow morning-I hate a thief)

 

[My Custom S]

PhantomEB,

Good suggestion for Bondsman on the surround sound. I did this in my garage as well. The less "stuff" on the walls in the way of utilities the more room for wall storage.

 

[fflintstone]

If I had a few grand, drywall would already be up... Now I can stash a few grand of your cash if you like. Now is the perfect opportunity while the studs are bare...

I am afraid all I could come up with these days is the rare bottle of scotch. I have been unemployed for 16 months. I used to buy good booze when I had disposable income, and I don’t drink much these days, depressed enough about being broke, don’t need to become a drunk.

FYI my pole barn walls are open at this time as well.

 

[fatboy99]

Check out this thread about his wall sockets im not saying to do as much as Marc did but check out the end result

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12334

The lay out plan and rough in are on page 2

 

[6768rogues]

Throw in a couple of brand new pennies. I have found a few when remodeling and thought it was cool. When I was in the contracting business, I must have put hundreds of pennies in buildings.

 

[bondsman]

Check out this thread about his wall sockets im not saying to do as much as Marc did but check out the end result

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12334

The lay out plan and rough in are on page 2

All I can say is "WOW!"

That is alot of outlets....most are covered up by shelving and such too.

My garage is pretty much outfitted. I have yet to use many of the outlets. Only other electrical items I can figure that would require an outlet constantly are the door opener and future spot for LCD TV. Lets see, right now I have all my dewalt battery chargers hooked up, two high mounted fans, air compressor, fridge and parts washer. I have plenty of outlets available. I just can't imagine the need to keep so much stuff plugged in. Now speciality outlets, I can see. Like the ones mounted high for a specific purpose. But to have that many general outlets......to each his own....

 

[bondsman]

Throw in a couple of brand new pennies. I have found a few when remodeling and thought it was cool. When I was in the contracting business, I must have put hundreds of pennies in buildings.

Now that is a great ideea. I will definitely put a couple in each wall. May even throw a note in there...kinda like a time capsule...

 

[srmofo]

Now that is a great ideea. I will definitely put a couple in each wall. May even throw a note in there...kinda like a time capsule...

someone on here had posted up a newspaper they found in a wall. Next time I tear into a wall I plan on doing that...maybe even getting it vacuum sealed first so it stays nice and fresh

 

[7echo]

If you know where the TV will go you might consider adding blocking. Any other areas that might need blocking? Also, I think CAT 6 network drops are a good idea. You can use them for land line phone as well. Makes a nice feature for re-sale as well. And network cable is way faster, more secure, and more dependable than wireless.

 

[bondsman]

Great idea with the blocking. Didn't even think of that.... I may go ahead and run a CAT6 drop and cable in there as well. Seems I have alot more work before I can close anything up.... You guys are great...

 

[haugy]

Not that you are planning to sell. But having certain items ready, even if you don't use them is a selling plus.

For a few extra dollars, run the speaker wires to locations, then put a flat plate over them. Have the cable and internet run. Etc. While you may not use them, a prospective buyer may, and knowing it's already run, and just needs to be hooked up is a plus. Just something to consider.

 

[mad57]

thermostat wire if ur gonna put sep heating, a couple or dead wires both 110 and 220 just in case plans change and you need them in the future there all ready there, vapor barrior and yeah lots of out lets