bubinga
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Yeah, Id keep That One, 150 Right?
Looks same era as mine.
Just Changed the pulley bearings so far.
Driven by a tread mill motor now.
Craftsman Drill Press
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Looks same era as mine.
Just Changed the pulley bearings so far.
Driven by a tread mill motor now.
bubinga
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Naw, You'll be Ok!!
Looks good too, I like the OEM Motor too, don't see that a lot.
I think you could buy them without the motor in those days.
You got a good price on it too.
They always come up when I don't have the money.
Not that I "Need" (I know, I know, what's "Need" got to do with it, I fully feel the same!! But space is getting to be an Issue) another drill press,
My 150 is shown above.
Here's a quick video of it showing the Tread Mill Motor.
Naw, You'll be Ok!!
Looks good too, I like the OEM Motor too, don't see that a lot.
I think you could buy them without the motor in those days.
You got a good price on it too.
They always come up when I don't have the money.
Not that I "Need" (I know, I know, what's "Need" got to do with it, I fully feel the same!! But space is getting to be an Issue) another drill press,
My 150 is shown above.
Here's a quick video of it showing the Tread Mill Motor.
I was kinda surprised by the condition of it. It defintely needs a clean up, but everything works great. Nothing seized or locked up, and it fires right up. I wasn't really looking for a drill press, but i got a CM block grinder at the weekend, and then i started having crazy ideas of matching it up to other CM power tools.
That's a real nice one! Looks brand new. I'd love to do the variable speed box like that. Is that a 1750rpm motor?
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bubinga
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Well it's deigned to be variable, but I think it delivers max HP at around 3450, 0r 3600.
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Hmmm. That's kinda... let’s just say interesting.
I saw this when you posted it but finally had a chance to look at it again on the laptop. I finally see what you are looking at. Those handles!. How many presses had to die to make those handles?
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N2 Many Projects
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I recently purchased an old school Delta benchtop drill press that needs some love. Missing the chuck and part the the chuch attaches to. Not sure if it’s a tapered fit thing or not. Have not spent any time looking into it. It’s been sitting on the floor in the garage since I got it a few days before Christmas. I know it is not Craftsman but I figured some of ya’ll would know more anout it than me. I will post some pictures of it if any one is interested.
bubinga
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Yeah, I's like to see it.
N2 Many Projects
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Ok I will get some pictures later today. It still has little rodent droppings on it so I am not all crazy about touching it any more than I have to. Not ready to pressure wash and blow it off with air yet either. I paid $23.00 for it which is the best thing it has going for it.
Edit: Here are some pictures.
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Pics added.
Smokeshow69
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Nice project but I believe you should perhaps post that in the vintage drill press thread? I think you may get even more eyes on it at that thread since this is the craftsman drill press thread. Great pick up!
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Thank you Smokeshow69,
I was not aware such a thread existed here. I'll take a gander and see what I can come up with. I'm only a member of like 20 different forums so it's hard to know every thing about every forum. Again Thanks for the heads up and nice compliment.
454ragtop
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I feel bad for derailing Frank's Craftsman drill press thread further, but what you have there is a fairly rare Delta 645 11" drill press that was only made for a few years in the late 30's, early 40"s. They were sold with a finicky (cheap) keyless chuck which often failed, probably why your spindle is missing. They used the same interchangeable spindles as the more common DP 220 14" drill press. I have a couple NOS spindles for Jacobs chucks listed on Ebay, could sell one off Ebay if you'd like. You'll still needa chuck, as well as the collar with the set screw that goes on top. Might want to post over on OWWM.org , lots of Delta experts over there.
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454ragtop TY I'll send you a PM
Smokeshow69
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Thank you Smokeshow69,
I was not aware such a thread existed here. I'll take a gander and see what I can come up with. I'm only a member of like 20 different forums so it's hard to know every thing about every forum. Again Thanks for the heads up and nice compliment.
No worries, I hear you on being a member of multiple forums and not knowing where to post. You should sit down and read that thread but it takes about 4 hours
lots of delta guys on there that are knowledgeable but I am not one of them but rags post should point you in the right direction. Owwm is a another great source for parts and info, both on craftsman machines and any other brand.Sent from my iPhone using The Garage Journal mobile app
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I was not able to find that thread you speak of :/
Smokeshow69
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Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press
Said rabbit hole thread!
Show us your cool, "old" drill press
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116677
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Said rabbit hole thread!
Show us your cool, "old" drill press
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116677
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Bill C
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Looking to purchase a Craftsman 150 Bench Top drill press that is for sale on CL. Unfortunatly there are only 2 mediocre photos in the ad l, but I plan to look at it on Monday as the seller is out of town until then.
Can somebody help provide some guidance on value? The listing has no asking price as it includes a bunch of other stuff also for sale. What would you guys consider a fair price range for a complete, proper working, good condition 150 Bench top? I am aware it varies greatly by location/condition/etc... I just want to know a proper ballpark.
I have attached the two photos from the add. It doesn’t appear to have any of the cool options like Vari-Slow or the middle pulley. But it also doesn’t have an arc of shame
Can somebody help provide some guidance on value? The listing has no asking price as it includes a bunch of other stuff also for sale. What would you guys consider a fair price range for a complete, proper working, good condition 150 Bench top? I am aware it varies greatly by location/condition/etc... I just want to know a proper ballpark.
I have attached the two photos from the add. It doesn’t appear to have any of the cool options like Vari-Slow or the middle pulley. But it also doesn’t have an arc of shame
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lafester
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Around here you would be lucky to get it for $150. Lots of people looking for them now but deals still pop up occasionally.Looking to purchase a Craftsman 150 Bench Top drill press that is for sale on CL. Unfortunatly there are only 2 mediocre photos in the ad l, but I plan to look at it on Monday as the seller is out of town until then.
Can somebody help provide some guidance on value? The listing has no asking price as it includes a bunch of other stuff also for sale. What would you guys consider a fair price range for a complete, proper working, good condition 150 Bench top? I am aware it varies greatly by location/condition/etc... I just want to know a proper ballpark.
I have attached the two photos from the add. It doesn’t appear to have any of the cool options like Vari-Slow or the middle pulley. But it also doesn’t have an arc of shame
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N2 Many Projects
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location, condition, patients means every thing. It looks ok in the pics. Is it all original? How does it run, cut??? Are you comfy with it at that price.
bite the bullet if you want it or wait for a better deal. what is a better deal less in price but more in work to get it back to new???Looking to purchase a Craftsman 150 Bench Top drill press that is for sale on CL. Unfortunatly there are only 2 mediocre photos in the ad l, but I plan to look at it on Monday as the seller is out of town until then.
Can somebody help provide some guidance on value? The listing has no asking price as it includes a bunch of other stuff also for sale. What would you guys consider a fair price range for a complete, proper working, good condition 150 Bench top? I am aware it varies greatly by location/condition/etc... I just want to know a proper ballpark.
I have attached the two photos from the add. It doesn’t appear to have any of the cool options like Vari-Slow or the middle pulley. But it also doesn’t have an arc of shame
That is an early Craftsman 150 which was likely Power Bronze originally. The quality of the repaint and a good overall inspection will give you a good idea on value to you. The extras may be a factor too.
I agree with your assessment and previous comments about condition and region.
1952/1953 Craftsman 100's
If you’ve been following along, you may recall that the 1952/1953 model years did not come equipped with the head frame trim panel. In addition, the parts that were otherwise chrome plated were painted instead; the spring tension knob, the quill lock lever, the feed stop bracket, and the feed handle hub. I surmise that chrome plating was eliminated because of U.S. involvement in the Korean War (1950-1953).
More often than not, the paint on these parts flaked off or got significantly chipped. When refurbishing these ’52-’53 machines, these parts of course, can be repainted.
I've had a handful of these ’52-’53 Craftsman 100 drill presses. Except for the feed handle hub, I prefer to strip the paint and polish the parts with a buffer as an alternative to repainting. I soak the parts in lacquer thinner to remove the old paint. The stripped parts look pretty bad after stripping, but after a few minutes with a buffing wheel and compound, the finish rivals a nicely chromed piece.
1952/1953 Craftsman 100's
If you’ve been following along, you may recall that the 1952/1953 model years did not come equipped with the head frame trim panel. In addition, the parts that were otherwise chrome plated were painted instead; the spring tension knob, the quill lock lever, the feed stop bracket, and the feed handle hub. I surmise that chrome plating was eliminated because of U.S. involvement in the Korean War (1950-1953).
More often than not, the paint on these parts flaked off or got significantly chipped. When refurbishing these ’52-’53 machines, these parts of course, can be repainted.
I've had a handful of these ’52-’53 Craftsman 100 drill presses. Except for the feed handle hub, I prefer to strip the paint and polish the parts with a buffer as an alternative to repainting. I soak the parts in lacquer thinner to remove the old paint. The stripped parts look pretty bad after stripping, but after a few minutes with a buffing wheel and compound, the finish rivals a nicely chromed piece.
Bill C
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location, condition, patients means every thing. It looks ok in the pics. Is it all original? How does it run, cut??? Are you comfy with it at that price.
Thanks for all the advice. In my mind, I was thinking I’d be willing to pay $150 for a functional, fair (or better) condition DP.
I will plan to give it a thorough inspection and based on it having been repainted, I’ll use the repaint quality as an indicator of how the machine has been cared for. Looks to be coming from a place that does some machining and fab, so maybe we can check the runout while I’m there.
I’ll keep you all posted.
Bill C
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Missed out on the 150 I had asked about earlier. I am now looking at a bench top 100-model now. Also appears complete and Undamaged but pretty dirty (from the pics).
Alternatively, there a early bench top “Long-C” Craftsman drill press for a similar price as the model 100.
Assuming similar condition are the earlier atlas-made Long C drill presses considered better or worse than the 100’s and 150’s?
Alternatively, there a early bench top “Long-C” Craftsman drill press for a similar price as the model 100.
Assuming similar condition are the earlier atlas-made Long C drill presses considered better or worse than the 100’s and 150’s?
Bill C
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@FrankLee. So I went and looked a 100 Bench top series today. It was overall in very good condition. It had the original c-man motor and the table didn’t have a single drill mark on it. The quill was good and tight and it ran well. The drill press only had two issues that I could see. The head lock lever missing but the original bolt was still intact.
The bigger issue was that the table lock portion of the tilting table was broken. The casting had a big chunk out of it where the lock lever mechanism was. It had been made to work via some big J-bolts and steel plate to clamp the table to the main head tube. The repair made the press still useable but the tilt feature could never work based on the way it was repaired. Raising and lowering the table is also more difficult due to the repair.
Sooo the big question... do you have a spare column lock casting for a tilt table? I don’t need a whole table as the table on this unit is perfect otherwise.
And... I talked em down to $75.... but didn’t pull the trigger because of the table clamp issue. Maybe I should go back and buy it????
No, I don't have one. Just yesterday, sold a table that also had a cracked table support.
It's a tough call. If the condition of the head frame is a good as you say, $75 may not be bad. If parting out, parts are worth 2-3 times that.
I just took a quick look on eBay for tables and what's there now looks like way over-priced junk. If you're patient, something reasonable will pop up eventually, or someone here may have one. Also, don't rule out other tables. A later non-tilting 150 table, or a 2nd or 3rd gen Emerson table will work just fine too.
Bill C
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FrankLee,
Thanks again for the insight and this wonderful thread. I will mull over the purchase tonight. Perhaps you have a spare head lock lever for a 100 model that you would sell $$$ ? This style seems different than the 150's.
Here is an image from one your earlier posts and I have highlighted the lever that is missing. The bolt and clamp collars are present, just the lever is gone on the one I looked at today.
And here is the style used on the 150's and MAYBE? late 100's?
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Cruzan80
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Re: The Classic Craftsman 100/150 Drill Press
Bill, where are you at, and do you just want a bench model?
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Bill, where are you at, and do you just want a bench model?
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Bill C
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Portland OR. I’d prefer a bench, but I’m not 100% comitted
Smokeshow69
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I am in the Portland Or area and have a good restorable bench top model with original motor. Check your inbox!
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Went on vacation and was really busy when we got back. I finally was able to get into the garage and get some handles on my drill press. Special thanks to FrankLee for the walk through.
I also made a matching chuck key to go with my handles.
I also made a matching chuck key to go with my handles.
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bubinga
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Went on vacation and was really busy when we got back. I finally was able to get into the garage and get some handles on my drill press. Special thanks to FrankLee for the walk through.
I also made a matching chuck key to go with my handles.
Looks Cool!!
Dentaltec
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I really want to find an original table lift for my 150, just seems impossible, I found this video and thought it was quite smart
Outlawmws
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That could have a lot of different uses... and its faster than the screw jack based lifts!
Craptain
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I like it. I have a table lift on one dp but I would like one on the other. This idea is easily within my skillset.
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Bill C
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How do you guys like to remove the bearings from the quill body?
I have just removed the spindle from the quill on my newly acquired 100 DP. Fortunately the spindle slid out easily from the quill. However, both the bearings stayed inside the quill. I am thinking I will use a long thin (1/2") wood dowel through the inside race of one bearing and tap the opposite bearing out. Once the first bearing is out, the 2nd one will be easy.
The only caveat to this method is I expect this non-uniform "striking" may damage the bearing (especially if the bearing requires some considerable effort to remove. In my case, though, both spindle bearings feel very gritty and should probably be replaced anyhow.
I have just removed the spindle from the quill on my newly acquired 100 DP. Fortunately the spindle slid out easily from the quill. However, both the bearings stayed inside the quill. I am thinking I will use a long thin (1/2") wood dowel through the inside race of one bearing and tap the opposite bearing out. Once the first bearing is out, the 2nd one will be easy.
The only caveat to this method is I expect this non-uniform "striking" may damage the bearing (especially if the bearing requires some considerable effort to remove. In my case, though, both spindle bearings feel very gritty and should probably be replaced anyhow.