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Craftsman USA tools soon?
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bpjr
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Too much fake news to hardly believe anything from the press but according (several months ago) to the pres of US steel, they are reopening several facilities and bringing steel mfg back to the USA. Regardless of how many they open, steel should be available for tool mfg.
There is another mill supposed to open in north or south carolina but isn't us steel.
There is another mill supposed to open in north or south carolina but isn't us steel.
wyattstihl
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If you got that off Snopes then I wouldnt trust it in the least. Wheres the source from that?
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rijndael
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It's interesting how they try to imply that the POTUS was making things up, there are plenty of news articles which point to a similar story:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-st...-plant-operations-to-handle-demand-1520430223
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-st...-plant-operations-to-handle-demand-1520430223
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This list reminded me that Wright has the Cougar Pro line that fits this category. Williams offers US and foreign sourced tools, but they are not branded differently. Still sold at different price points and they usually are up front about the COO.
j789139
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You're welcome!
j789139
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Yeah, don't know what "Snopes" is.
Source? Um, see >>> "(AP)"...As in Associated Press, from today...
https://apnews.com/fa464738b4744c9a...CK:-Trump-says-US-Steel-opening-mills.-Not-so.
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WWheeler
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It shows in his quote it's a AP article.
AP Fact Check: Trump says U.S. Steel opening mills. Not so.
https://www.stltoday.com/business/l...cle_9c7138c8-0c5d-5beb-a5f1-656e505eaee5.html
Here's Politifact: Truth-o-meter: FALSE
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wyattstihl
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It shows in his quote it's a AP article.
AP Fact Check: Trump says U.S. Steel opening mills. Not so.
https://www.stltoday.com/business/l...cle_9c7138c8-0c5d-5beb-a5f1-656e505eaee5.html
Here's Politifact: Truth-o-meter: FALSE
You guys are right. I gotta admit, I like POTUS but he gets ahead of himself, (Sometimes). Even if their not opening 6 new plants, their still expanding.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...ning-to-add-more-than-800-jobs-this-year.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ws...-plant-operations-to-handle-demand-1520430223
Not to get too political, but whether its President Trumps doing or not, I support anyone who pushes to create more American jobs and boost the American economy.
Edit: I didnt see the source at first, my bad.
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He makes stuff up every day. I can't see why he would change now? Or should that be why he "wouldn't"?
Anyway, there is a difference, regardless how small, between re-opening existing plants and building new ones.
In any case, it will be good if SBD can start making Craftsman in the US. I think we can all agree on that.
j789139
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Interesting how the AP fact check article is from today, as opposed to WSJ article from 5 months ago. Also, I believe, WSJ is currently owned by News Corp i.e. Rupert Murdoch, who also owns Fox News Channel, so I don't have as much trust in WSJ, as I once did.
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wyattstihl
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Yep, we can agree on that. But whether or not its reopening existing plants or building new ones, its still creating more jobs and employing more American workers, is it not? Who wouldnt support more American manufacturing?
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WittHay
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Expert is a European based Stanley brand of tool that Mac carries. They have carts and boxes also. We used to have Expert available in industrial stores up here through a Proto connection but they sell Blackhawk instead of Expert now.
What i am talking about is a Blue-Point made in China tire gauge vs. a Mac Taiwan made or Blue-Point Chinese made battery tools vs, Taiwan made Mac tools.
Oil filter wrenches, air blow guns, feeler gauges, go through a Snap-on catalog for Blue-Point automotive specialty tools and then find the equivalent Mac
Mac has 3 lines of hard tools on the truck. USA made, Facom based Precision Torque and their bottom level Expert. Wouldn't be surprised if Expert is replaced with Craftsman on the Mac truck someday. Regarding screwdrivers and pliers Mac has probably 4 lines of them compared to Snap-on's one or 2
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PelicanPines
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Real facts are fun.
another thank youwyattstihl
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Real facts are fun.
Too bad you gotta dig deep for them nowadays.
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Real facts are fun.
LOL you know the soldiers .... and I don't mean the GIs...
another fact checked by the fake news crowd.
You guys are undermine the "authority", you shalt not question, just spread the glorious news from your glorious leader
wyattstihl
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LOL you know the soldiers .... and I don't mean the GIs...
another fact checked by the fake news crowd.
You guys are undermine the "authority", you shalt not question, just spread the news
You just earned yourself a thumbs up[emoji106]
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WTF happened to this thread?! What is it about Craftsman topic that turns into a hand grenade EVERY time.
MACs been expanding, not declining. Their garbage years were 2000-2010 but since then things have been pretty positive with introductions like Mac Grip screwdrivers and the Axis 90 tooth ratchets.
Matco has never owned a tool production plant or made anything. Everything is contracted out so....yea. They have exclusives but they've never made anything themselves other than tool boxes.
mikebaker1129
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What does any of these political replies have to do with Craftsman ?
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WittHay
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I stand corrected. I guess what i had in my mind was those LED lights, but they are more accessories than part of the box. Didn't think much electrical like power strips and cords was made in the US anymore.
Pictures of some local Snap-on boxes. They kind of sell themselves, dont need flags or made in USA marketing.
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WittHay
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After I made the Snap-on marketing comment, I thought its kind of cool when you buy a tool and it has your country's flag or symbol on the packaging. Nothing wrong with a American company like Stanley trying to promote US made tools or the Craftsman brand even though a individual product might not be 100% home made
Pictures of some Canadian made tools or products.
Pictures of some Canadian made tools or products.
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Shouldn't have bought that **** in the first place!
I immediately dumped Craftsman 7 years ago when the replacement for my broken low profile ratchet was missing the USA stamp.
PelicanPines
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The few things craftsman USA I broke... I bought SK to replace it. Sometimes warranties ain't worth it.
Matco doesn't make ANY tools. None. The ONLY thing they manufacture is the Matco line of tool boxes.
Should say problem with those flat earthers....
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Never made anything. Currently AJ Manufacturing is the exclusive manufacturer for Matco ratchets (and some other things) but its contract produced. I assume Matco owns IP/patents to allow for this though.
Closest they get to their own manufacturing was in the Danaher family where Danaher had over half a dozen tool plants so they had no worries about supply or who to go to for new designs. That party is over though, and they're on their own again.
Fedwrench
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I know this is off topic but, I've always wondered what was up with Genius Tools using a maple leaf on their advertising.
wyattstihl
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Its a shame Danaher sold out to Apex. Apex closed all the plants and there went affordable USA made tools.
Kinda off topic, but it seems like whenever Apex buys out a tool company they shut down the USA manufacturing and send it overseas just to make a buck. Thus why I don’t like buying from anything owned by Apex, because all they care about is $$$. Not the American worker. But thats nothing new with big companies.
Maybe I should be mad at Bain Capitol, but I digress.
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That may change soon. US Steel opening 6 new plants. Others opening or restarting as well. The tarriffs seem to be working. Let's hope it lasts.
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wyattstihl
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Sears Hometown Stores are franchised by a division of Sears. The franchisee owns the store but Sears owns all the stock. Sears continues to source it's own Craftsman tools and has the right to do so for more years than they will likely be around.
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toddoky
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A US Steel spokesperson stated they haven’t made any commitment to building any new facilities, but have decided to restart the second blast furnace at their Granite City IL facility. That person also said any decision made to build new facilities would be posted on their website...as of this morning there is no such news posted.
It took the EU about five minutes to cave. They are having a meeting about eliminating tarriffs, altogether. US goods have been heavily tarriffed by most countries for years. Jobs and industry left the US because of it. We were down to nothing. Now everybody is screaming prices will go up. Wages are finally starting to move after 30 years of stagnation. The GDP just hit 4.1 after years below 2. Unemployment is at record lows and companies can't find enough skilled labor to fill them. China charges 20% on a US car and we charge 2.5% on a Chinese car. Do you think that is good for America, just because you can by a Chinese car cheap, for the moment. It is called dumping. They flood the market with goods, even at below cost to destroy domestic manufacturing and then can charge whatever they want. That is what happened to the US consumer elrctronics industry. What good are cheap imported goods if nobody has a job?
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I've seen elsewhere, where people say that the Craftsman website doesn't list their local Sears as a place to buy tools. I've told a lot of them, that SBD owns Craftsman, and craftsman.com, but, Sears can source their own Craftsman tools independent of SBD. So why would SBD advertise a place on craftsman.com that's not selling product they produce? I bet if Sears decides to source their tools from SBD instead of Apex, or whoever, that Sears will suddenly pop up on the craftsman website as a place to purchase
I doubt Sears will source Craftsman from SBD. Why would SBD want people going to a place that has their stuff mixed in with junk from India, all branded Craftsman? It is bad enough having two product lines sharing the same name. Sears can't pay their bills and a lot of suppliers have cut them off. SBD and the rest of the business world know that Sears will be gone in the next couple of years.They have shuttered hundreds of stores and have not turned a profit in years. Their stock is at 2 bucks and change. HD by comparison is around $180 a share.
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