Craigslist seller - lost out on an old Wilton

[964haus]

Been searching for a Wilton vise for about 2 years now. They VERY rarely come up for sale around here, but I've been pretty consistently searching.

Found one (yay!) about 2 days ago - just been posted on Craigslist for 25 minutes, and in great condition. And only $65. I emailed the seller, asking if it opened fine but finished my email saying I'd take it. Got a response from him saying he'd check and get back to me. Following up a few hours later and said it's fine if only opens a little, I still want it. Nothing.

Asked again today, and he responds saying I should have come and got it and not just talked about it. WTF? I said on 2 occasions that I wanted it and waiting for him to reply. Vise is long gone...

Now for another 2 years searching. If anyone has an old Wilton that needs some love and you no longer want it, let me know...

M.

 

[619DioFan]

One thing I have come to realize regarding items for sale on cl is that if I want it then probably a zillion others do too. so I just tell the seller I want it , have cash " what's your address ? " and I am on my way . at least then if I get there and it is a good deal it is mine. and if it is junk , well I wasted a little time and someone else can have it. also , I won't drive more than about 30 miles for anything so not too much wasted time or fuel.

 

[964haus]

ya, i've learned that i need to say the minimum - "I'll take it, where do you live" is all I'm going to say next time. In 2 years. When another one pops up for sale....

m.

 

[couch67]

Yep when its something like that where I'm sure its a steal, I dont mess around and respond that I will pay asking price in cash, say that I'm very close to them (even if I'm not), and when can I pick up. Again have to be sure of the sale just be looking online.

 

[JamesW84]

Try to call or text if they have their number on there. Some people don't check or respond to email often.

 

[964haus]

Will do in the future - it just ***** cause we were communicating via email. And twice I said I'd take it...a lesson learned....
m.

 

[Showkey]

When I sell on Craigslist posted clearly in the ad:

FIRST COME FIRST SERVED

NO HOLDS

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“I will take it”...........does not count.......cuz 50% of the......... “I will take it”......are NO SHOWS !!!!!!! I will take it counts as a hold. You should have been in the car after the first email that it was still available.

 

[isb cornbinder]

I went to a seller's address to buy a KENNEDY toolbox. The seller had a second toolbox and I said I want it also. He said someone is coming for it. I offered a higher price and left with the other toolbox, immediately. Or best offer can go either way. Think about it.
One knothead seller did not understand OBO. He was selling a bunch of LISTA cabinets for $200 each. I offered $500 for each and he still sold to the other buyer. 5 cabinets for $1000 is a lot less money than $2500 for the same 5 cabinets.
I offered $500 each to the buyer and he said, "You got to be kidding?"
BTW. I was first person to show and I had the cash. We had to wait about an hour for the other buyer. I have been a little P'd off, but I am getting over it. It has only been a year.
I agree on the 50% no-show factor. I expect other persons to respond as responsibility as I do.
I was selling a twin cylinder compressor/tank for $200. Someone called, agreed on the price and we met at the local Chevron. My son and I waited for a few minutes for the buyer.
The "wife" spoke for the husband because he did not know English. The wife offered $50. We put the compressor back in my truck and left without saying anything. The wife ran after us yelling "stop, stop" then she changed to f---k you. The second buyer got the compressor 15 minutes later.

 

[58Yeoman]

Last couple weeks, I had an Indian made Central Forge vise for sale on cl for $15. The ad always says that if you see the ad, it's still for sale. I get an email through cl saying "I'm interested";Pete, phone number. I ignored the "call this number" and emailed back "the Central Forge?" (I had three vises on at the time). He answers back "yes."

Hmmm...I answer back "when do you want to see it?" He finally answers back with a 6 sentence paragraph saying that they are flexible, etc., and any time is good with me. Well, I finally called his number, and he wants to come and get it now. Well, he's 60 miles away, and he and his wife drive for over an hour to come and get it. A $15 vise. He would've been closer to the Quad Cities to buy a new one.

I'm usually leery about calling numbers without much dialog, but this time it worked out.

 

[TXpintail]

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[isb cornbinder]

I was driving through a less desirable neighbourhood. I could se up a driveway to the back yard where there was a pickup canopy. It was on the lawn and the grass was growing up around the canopy.
I knocked on the door and an intoxicated whiskered man answered with "WTF do you want?" I asked about the canopy and he said he had it advertised for $50. The canopy was a Ford Dealer installed option. The two of us hefted the canopy onto the F150 I was driving and clamped it down with the clamps that were on the canopy top.
I paid the $50, thanked the intoxicated seller. I had to ask what happened to his pickup. He said that he never owned a pickup and the canopy just appeared on the back lawn a few months ago.
the man in the picture looks like he could be the seller's brother.
Well, the white canopy matched the white pickup. One of the guys I was working with retired and bought the pickup. He moved to Prince George a week later.
BTW. I got the Ford pickup for free. A neighbour gave it to me after more than a few shops were unable to get the engine to run. I looked under the truck and found a slightly rusted Vise Grip clamped on a section of rubber fuel line. I removed the Vise Grip, massaged the fuel line, started the truck and drove it one block to my home.

 

[SGKent]

why not look around Seattle etc.

 

[kngelv]

One knothead seller did not understand OBO. He was selling a bunch of LISTA cabinets for $200 each. I offered $500 for each and he still sold to the other buyer. 5 cabinets for $1000 is a lot less money than $2500 for the same 5 cabinets.
I offered $500 each to the buyer and he said, "You got to be kidding?"
BTW. I was first person to show and I had the cash. We had to wait about an hour for the other buyer. I have been a little P'd off, but I am getting over it. It has only been a year.

So the seller told someone they could have the cabinets for $200.00 and actually did so? I think he should be commended for honoring his word. You on the other hand?

James

 

[BFBOB]

ya, i've learned that i need to say the minimum - "I'll take it, where do you live" is all I'm going to say next time. In 2 years. When another one pops up for sale....

m.

Don't worry. If that one was really a great deal, it'll be back on CL tomorrow...with a higher price.

 

[Lassen Forge]

One knothead seller did not understand OBO. He was selling a bunch of LISTA cabinets for $200 each. I offered $500 for each and he still sold to the other buyer. 5 cabinets for $1000 is a lot less money than $2500 for the same 5 cabinets. BTW. I was first person to show and I had the cash. We had to wait about an hour for the other buyer. I have been a little P'd off, but I am getting over it. It has only been a year.

It's called integrity. The guy agreed to sell those cabinets to the other guy, and stood by his word. If YOU were the guy who just rented a truck and drove an hour to pick up those cabinets to find them gone because someone "swooped" you... how would YOU feel?

"Uh, sorry, dude, I know I told you they were yours but someone just showed up and offered me more money for them, so he got them, sorry you rented a truck and drove all that way. No hard feelings, right?"

 

[dkroth]

I like Wiha screwdrivers.







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[isb cornbinder]

Rented truck? Drove an hour? Nice try. The buyer is the owner of a local second hand store. He wanted $700 each and another $20 each to help load and deliver two of the cabinets.

 

[964haus]

My standard CL ad response:

"I want to buy your widget. My phone number is: ***. I have cash and can be there in 20 minutes, or whenever you'd like to meet."





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This is my new response. I've learned my lesson.
m.

 

[ransil]

My standard CL ad response:

"I want to buy your widget. My phone number is: ***. I have cash and can be there in 20 minutes, or whenever you'd like to meet."





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I dont like calling people, last time i tried that fucker didnt speak English.
I like to deal thru email


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[Retroman]

Been there done that missed some good deals asking to many questions.

 

[Worsedog]

Rented truck? Drove an hour? Nice try. The buyer is the owner of a local second hand store. He wanted $700 each and another $20 each to help load and deliver two of the cabinets.

Regardless of the situation, it is still called integrity. The seller made a deal he was willing to accept and kept that deal. How would you have liked the second guy to offer more money for what you just made a deal on and the seller say sorry to you?

 

[isb cornbinder]

It has.happened. Second hand is a rough business. The buyer could get three in his pickup so I got two in my truck. The buyer bought lunch i got $50 for helping load and delivery to his store.
In this area, when the real estate was at the highest, many '1.5 million dollar houses were being bid up to $2.0 million.

 

[dkroth]

I like Wiha screwdrivers.







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[ransil]

I did lose out on a lawnmower, i was working on the sellers timeline which was the best he could do the next day, next day i contact him he sold it.

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[eborcim]

Been searching for a Wilton vise for about 2 years now.

What Wilton are you looking for?

 

[isb cornbinder]

Wilton Bullet vises are the hot ticket and have been for some time. Are they the best vise? I prefer the Charles Parker.
I am reducing the large number of tools I do not need. My unintended collection of 21+ vises has been reduced to about six. The Bullets were the first to go.
I bought most of the vises at garage sales, when the older people in this area were selling and moving out of the neighbourhood.
The second wave of garage sales is with the second owners. If you like used shoes, used electronics, used Keurig coffee machines and used Quick Pots this may be for you.
I have a friend in the junk business. He gets some really good treasures mixed in the junk. He has sold some of these "extras" to me.
I have reduced my buying to nearly zero. It is time to clear some much needed space.
My last buy was an older rototiller. The seller was asking $125. The B&S would not start. There were five possible buyers looking. I was the last one hanging on and the seller tried to give the 'tiller to me. I asked if there was gas in the tank. The tank was empty. A splash of gas and the old B&S rattled to life and I paid $100. My son 'tilled my wife's garden then sold the machine to his friend for $150.

 

[Lucid Moments]

I went to a seller's address to buy a KENNEDY toolbox. The seller had a second toolbox and I said I want it also. He said someone is coming for it. I offered a higher price and left with the other toolbox, immediately. Or best offer can go either way. Think about it.
One knothead seller did not understand OBO. He was selling a bunch of LISTA cabinets for $200 each. I offered $500 for each and he still sold to the other buyer. 5 cabinets for $1000 is a lot less money than $2500 for the same 5 cabinets.

I've got to respectfully disagree with you about the seller. To me OBO simply means that the seller is willing to entertain offers for less than they are asking. But once they accepted an offer then they have accepted it. They have given their word that they will exchange their goods for a specific amount of money.

 

[850xpeps]

I've got to respectfully disagree with you about the seller. To me OBO simply means that the seller is willing to entertain offers for less than they are asking. But once they accepted an offer then they have accepted it. They have given their word that they will exchange their goods for a specific amount of money.

Agree with this as well. I’m a man of my word. If I say I agree to a price then that’s what it is.

Doesn’t matter if it was a 15 min ride or the guy had all them sold for 2k each. The seller
Agreed to sell and the buyer should be allowed the time they agreed on to pick them up.

 

[driftpin]

In a perfect world, that's what happens.

Today, it's 'first guy showing-up, and paying.'

If I waited for every person who claimed they would "be there tomorrow," very little would be sold.

I give them a near-to-me public location, like a grocery store, or Home Depot, and tell 'em,"call me when you get there, I'll meet you in-front of the store, I'm 2 min. away," and get them to agree to a time. If they're a no-show, I'm not sitting there waiting on them.

 

[850xpeps]

In a perfect world, that's what happens.

Today, it's 'first guy showing-up, and paying.'

If I waited for every person who claimed they would "be there tomorrow," very little would be sold.

I give them a near-to-me public location, like a grocery store, or Home Depot, and tell 'em,"call me when you get there, I'll meet you in-front of the store, I'm 2 min. away," and get them to agree to a time. If they're a no-show, I'm not sitting there waiting on them.

Don’t matter what you do as long as it’s what you agree with the guy. No issue in saying first come first serve. Lots of flakes never show. But if you make a deal then you owe it to the guy.

 

[964haus]

What Wilton are you looking for?

A Wilton bullet vise - it was a 4" in great condition for $65....

 

[LS6 Tommy]

Been searching for a Wilton vise for about 2 years now. They VERY rarely come up for sale around here, but I've been pretty consistently searching.

Found one (yay!) about 2 days ago - just been posted on Craigslist for 25 minutes, and in great condition. And only $65. I emailed the seller, asking if it opened fine but finished my email saying I'd take it. Got a response from him saying he'd check and get back to me. Following up a few hours later and said it's fine if only opens a little, I still want it. Nothing.

Asked again today, and he responds saying I should have come and got it and not just talked about it. WTF? I said on 2 occasions that I wanted it and waiting for him to reply. Vise is long gone...

Now for another 2 years searching. If anyone has an old Wilton that needs some love and you no longer want it, let me know...

M.

I don't really see this as being 100% the sellers fault. Cash is king. First come, first serve. If I say, "I'll take it", I'm on my way right after I hang up the phone.

Tommy

 

[eborcim]

If you really have your heart set on one, expand your search a little. Put a wanted post at GJ classifieds or other sites. I turned up a pallet of Wilton vises in Illinois CL. See if they are willing to ship one. Check WA OR ID Craigslist. Keep digging you will find one.

 

[Falcon67]

LOL, all of the above is why I never bother to even look at the local craigslist.

 

[driftpin]

In a perfect world, that's what happens.

Today, it's 'first guy showing-up, and paying.'

If I waited for every person who claimed they would "be there tomorrow," very little would be sold.

I give them a near-to-me public location, like a grocery store, or Home Depot, and tell 'em,"call me when you get there, I'll meet you in-front of the store, I'm 2 min. away," and get them to agree to a time. If they're a no-show, I'm not sitting there waiting on them.

Don’t matter what you do as long as it’s what you agree with the guy. No issue in saying first come first serve. Lots of flakes never show. But if you make a deal then you owe it to the guy.

If someone tells me, "I'll have the $ on Friday," and it's Saturday, if someone else shows up with the asking price between then and Friday, he can take possession if he pays the asking price.

I'll call the "Friday" buyer, and inform him someone else showed-up with the cash before he did.

When I'm trying to sell something, it's not Knights of the Round Table, codes of chivalry, and blood-oaths until death, it's if you show-up and you have the price, you get to walk with it. Any 'wanna-buy-it's' lined-up, shoulda, coulda, woulda-sold it to you that same day, if you had the gelt, which you didn't. First-come, first serve. I've also dealt with the "I have cash-ready-to-buy" guys who show up, and then low-ball me on a vehicle, at which point I tell them, "no-thanks," and leave. If I wanted to sell it for half or two-thirds of my asking price, that's where I would put the dollar-amount. A waste of my time.

Only way I'd change that is if someone gave me a $500 deposit, with a written receipt specifying the non-refundable deposit and the purchase price, and the timeframe to complete the purchase of the vehicle (7 days), this for a < $5K vehicle.

 

[paredown]

LOL, all of the above is why I never bother to even look at the local craigslist.

Well, you can have a bad experiences buying or selling (sometimes) or you can get lucky. A good part of our home reno has been done with bargains off C/L, including a long drive (3.5 hrs) to pick up an over-height Pella Architectural series patio door--for which I paid $175--street value on the replacement is ~$1500 (door had been installed, and taken out, seller was a builder cleaning up). I swapped out the hardware from brass to nickel with parts from eBay, and a strike from Pella, and even with gas thrown in was still out of pocket less than $250. Nearly herniated myself setting it by myself--but that's another story--sucker was heavy...

Or there was the time that I went over to pick up some free bike parts, and got probably $400 worth of stuff (sold on eBay), and couple of free tool cases and a pair of bike wheels that I'm still using. Dude was getting out of town in a hurry,

I've also had the people who are no-shows, tire kickers and generally annoying, like the guy that tried to load a bargain stove into his car, and ended up dropping it in the driveway and buggering off because it didn't fit.

It helps to have a sense of humor...

 

[850xpeps]

If someone tells me, "I'll have the $ on Friday," and it's Saturday, if someone else shows up with the asking price between then and Friday, he can take possession if he pays the asking price.

I'll call the "Friday" buyer, and inform him someone else showed-up with the cash before he did.

When I'm trying to sell something, it's not Knights of the Round Table, codes of chivalry, and blood-oaths until death, it's if you show-up and you have the price, you get to walk with it. Any 'wanna-buy-it's' lined-up, shoulda, coulda, woulda-sold it to you that same day, if you had the gelt, which you didn't. First-come, first serve. I've also dealt with the "I have cash-ready-to-buy" guys who show up, and then low-ball me on a vehicle, at which point I tell them, "no-thanks," and leave. If I wanted to sell it for half or two-thirds of my asking price, that's where I would put the dollar-amount. A waste of my time.

Only way I'd change that is if someone gave me a $500 deposit, with a written receipt specifying the non-refundable deposit and the purchase price, and the timeframe to complete the purchase of the vehicle (7 days), this for a < $5K vehicle.

You never addressed what I had said. If someone tells you they will have the money Friday, it has nothing to do with you agreeing to hold the item. All you have to say is first come first serve. Now if you tell him ok it’s yours on Friday....indicating you’ll hold it. And you don’t. That makes you a douche. It’s your choice to be the douche not his. So just say first come first serve.

 

[cadunkle]

If looking for something you need to have cash in hand and be ready to drop whatever you're doing to get it I missed out on a '75 RD350 last week. Listed under 24 hours ago, $2k, completeand running but rough needing a restoration, and about 10 mins from work when I saw it on my lunch break. That never happens, they're always a grand or two more for someone's hacked up cafe abortion and at least a few hundred miles away. I had cash in hand and ready to go. Emailed the guy saying I'd like to come see it, let me know if I could come later that day. Didn't hear anything back. Got off work, called him and no answer. Checked ad again and it was removed.

I should have called immediately and left a message, then followed up with a text and asserted that I wanted to come buy it now. My mistake trying to do it after work rather than leave immediately. There are a couple people local that ****** up almost every vintage bike that's remotely desirable, do a quick and dirty on them, and relist for a small fortune for a bike that looks nice at a distance but is just a rattle can rebuild.It's tough competition for a hobbyist who may check CL now and again for the next project. If you are looking for anything even remotely uncommon you need to always have enough cash on you, check several times a day, and be ready to drop everything when it pops up.

 

[driftpin]

If looking for something you need to have cash in hand and be ready to drop whatever you're doing to get it I missed out on a '75 RD350 last week. Listed under 24 hours ago, $2k, completeand running but rough needing a restoration, and about 10 mins from work when I saw it on my lunch break. That never happens, they're always a grand or two more for someone's hacked up cafe abortion and at least a few hundred miles away. I had cash in hand and ready to go. Emailed the guy saying I'd like to come see it, let me know if I could come later that day. Didn't hear anything back. Got off work, called him and no answer. Checked ad again and it was removed.

I should have called immediately and left a message, then followed up with a text and asserted that I wanted to come buy it now. My mistake trying to do it after work rather than leave immediately. There are a couple people local that ****** up almost every vintage bike that's remotely desirable, do a quick and dirty on them, and relist for a small fortune for a bike that looks nice at a distance but is just a rattle can rebuild.It's tough competition for a hobbyist who may check CL now and again for the next project. If you are looking for anything even remotely uncommon you need to always have enough cash on you, check several times a day, and be ready to drop everything when it pops up.

Guess I better not mention the two RZ350's, one is 1-owner, I'm negotiating for right now. Same person, a former Yamaha dealership employee. I've seen 'em, just waiting for the final #$, the guy's hard-up, so he can't be too-choosy.

You never addressed what I had said. If someone tells you they will have the money Friday, it has nothing to do with you agreeing to hold the item. All you have to say is first come first serve. Now if you tell him ok it’s yours on Friday....indicating you’ll hold it. And you don’t. That makes you a douche. It’s your choice to be the douche not his. So just say first come first serve.

I prefer Summer's Eve douche, it leaves me... fresh!

Quick to castigate someone, you are! Even Yoda would find it hard to ignore your accusation. I never-said "I'll hold it for you." If someone wants to re-contact me after payday, that's fine, they can come and look at what's for-sale, if it's not-yet sold. Meanwhile, someone-else with cash can take possession. Yes, "first-come, first-served."

Don't put words in my mouth and insult me. The forum isn't supposed to allow that. Follow the rules or shut yer pie-hole.

I had a set of three six-foot old-fashioned patio slider doors, complete with frames, removed for a nanawall https://www.nanawall.com/folding-glass-walls eighteen-foot replacement of six three-foot hinged sliders. I advertised them "as-is, where-is" for a couple hundred bucks, you couldn't buy a replacement glass for one for that! A guy agreed to buy them. He arrived with a box truck and a helper, I showed him the doors on the patio deck, comfirming that the glass was intact, no cracks, and the frames were intact. He paid me, and loaded the first one into the box truck, with his helper. The second one, he made it to the tailboard of the truck, but he stumbled and dropped the glass-in-frame, and it shattered in many, many jagged pieces, it was not tempered. Fortunately, no-one was hurt, but for about 30 seconds I got a tutorial in Spanish swearing. I brought-out a couple of brooms and a dustpan, and helped him sweep-up the glass shards. It was nighttime, so it was a bit harder, but it got done. He loaded the broken frame, and the last one, and split.

"As-is, where-is." You load after you pay, and I'm not helping with the loading of your possessions, just for this reason.

 

[850xpeps]

Guess I better not mention the two RZ350's, one is 1-owner, I'm negotiating for right now. Same person, a former Yamaha dealership employee. I've seen 'em, just waiting for the final #$, the guy's hard-up, so he can't be too-choosy.



I prefer Summer's Eve douche, it leaves me... fresh!

Quick to castigate someone, you are! Even Yoda would find it hard to ignore your accusation. I never-said "I'll hold it for you." If someone wants to re-contact me after payday, that's fine, they can come and look at what's for-sale, if it's not-yet sold. Meanwhile, someone-else with cash can take possession. Yes, "first-come, first-served."

Don't put words in my mouth and insult me. The forum isn't supposed to allow that. Follow the rules or shut yer pie-hole.

I had a set of three six-foot patio slider doors, complete with frames, removed for a nanawall eighteen-foot replacement of six three-foot hinged sliders. I advertised them "as-is, where-is" for a couple hundred bucks, you couldn't buy a replacement glass for one for that! A guy agreed to buy them. He arrived with a box truck and a helper, I showed him the doors on the patio deck, comfirming that the glass was intact, no cracks, and the frames were intact. He paid me, and loaded the first one into the box truck, with his helper. The second one, he made it to the tailboard of the truck, but he stumbled and dropped the glass-in-frame, and it shattered in many, many jagged pieces, it was not tempered. Fortunately, no-one was hurt, but for about 30 seconds I got a tutorial in Spanish swearing. I brought-out a couple of brooms and a dustpan, and helped him sweep-up the glass shards. It was nighttime, so it was a bit harder, but it got done. He loaded the broken frame, and the last one, and split.

"As-is, where-is." You load after you pay, and I'm not helping with the loading of your possessions, just for this reason.

Didn’t put words in your mouth. Only stated that if you told him you’d hold it and then didn’t then it would make you exactly what I stated. Like life it’s your choice to make that decision. So don’t point me out to say I said this is what you said bs. You quoted my post with a response to which didn’t fit my explanation. It’s not an a hole thing to say who ever brings me cash first get it’s. So I didn’t break any rules or put words in anyone’s mouth or call anyone anything. I simply stated what I thought someone would be if they didn’t keep their word. It’s your choice to keep or not keep your word.


I don’t mind helping people load “their” possessions. If they break it oh well. If I break it I’d prob give some cash back. But couple bucks won’t hurt me.