crappy gas cans

[mewisemagic]

i have 6 rubbermaid gas cans and 4 of them the spouts have broken off so i have to swap the 2 good ones around to get the gas out and you can't buy replacement spouts for them . all the new cans i see are not made to where i can fuel my cars and have fixed self venting spouts. does anybody know where you can get a good gas can?

 

[chris142]

I hear ya. The govt regulated gas cans are terrible and leak more gas than the old ones did. Ck craigs for a older can

 

[Patrick Boyle]

With the new CARB regulations, they pretty much all ****. These are supposed to be halfway decent, but they're expensive

 

[Elroy]

I hear ya. The govt regulated gas cans are terrible and leak more gas than the old ones did. Ck craigs for a older can

Elroy has no intentions of turning this into a political debate but this gas can rule is a prime example of government over reach.

Just what the hells' business is it of the government to get involved in a simple gas can.

Just one more example of why this country is going broke. Big brother needs to pay attention to the real problems and keep their damn hands off Elroy's gas can.

end of rant...........

 

[cashishift]

I picked up a few old style ones out of a friends shed who was gonna throw them away.. the way I see it, they're worth their weight in gold lol

 

[cashishift]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-Gas-Can...416?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0a633d90

lol @ price

 

[mordantly]

come to CA.... we have had like 8 or 10 iterations of CARB cans in my lifetime! and they all ******* **** *** and spill gas on the ground or car (the thing they are supposed not to do) , not to mention they build pressure/vacuum and get stress fractures!!!!!!!!!!!! i can't wait till we have to hyrdo-test our gas cans.

 

[Honda 1]

I have three gas cans. One is an oldie but a goodie and has the old-style spout. The other two cans stink. The spouts are the problem.

 

[JimDon]

There are some YouTube vids on how to modify these new cans and make them better. Haven't tried one yet, but vids look promising.
JimDon

 

[mordantly]

my solution? to grab jerry cans, atv/dirt bike style, old pre-CARB cans whenever i see them.

 

[NUTTSGT]

I have a few race fuel jugs that have separate vents. I also picked up two regular vented gas cans a few years ago at a swap meet brand new. They were 1 gallon cans, 3 bucks a piece.

 

[G_P]

I have a newer 1gal Govt approved gas can. Leave it outside on a hot day and it will swell to nearly twice its size and you better press the pour lever with the can upright to vent the pressurized vapors off because if you tip it down to pour and then press the lever the hot vapors literally blast the gasoline out the spout like a firehose and it soaks everything within a 3ft radius with gas!

It gets used for my chainsaw only. Im hoping one day a tree will fall on it or someone will steal it so I can go hunt down a different one!

 

[Copytech]

No pics but you can add a tire valve stem (core removed) to a new style can for a fixed vent.

 

[mordantly]

i was filling my civic on the side of the highway with one.. they spill half the 2 gallons on the car and ground, the rest goes IN the tank... i had ran home for lunch and had the car 2 days. ran out halfway back to work. got a ride home for a can then filled it. after the requisite spill, i threw the bastud into the bushes. and i see my friend laughing his *** off. turns out a CHIP was busting a U for me. got into a 10 minute argument about the **** cans, and wasting my $3 in gas i needed to get to work. so to get out of CA's $2k littering ticket, i had to hump it into the deep bush and recover the thing!

 

[m21bmr]

I hear ya. The govt regulated gas cans are terrible and leak more gas than the old ones did. Ck craigs for a older can

I have one of the 2.5 Gallon No-spill cans, and I like it. I got it to fuel my lawn tractor where the fuel fill location is directly under the center of the seat. With the bagging attachment on the mower, it was almost impossible to add fuel without spilling a good bit with my other cans. With the No-spill can, I can fuel my mower without spilling any fuel. I would recommend the No-spill can for small engine equipment.

The original poster mentioned refueling a vehicle. I'm not sure how effective that a No-spill can would be in fueling a vehicle though as most fuel fill locations are on the side of the vehicle. I think you might have to turn the can upside down to get the fuel out of the can.

If anyone is interested, they have some demo videos on their website http://www.nospill.com.

 

[Toymeister]

First you CAN buy the spouts for rubbermaid cans. I did it last summer from a ATV retailer who bought all the NOS spouts. It was expensive for what they are.

A long term solution is to buy 10 liter french wine jerry cans. They are the same as NATO 20 liter cans but less known. They have a ceramic like coating in the interior. Fairly expensive at like 25.00 each but compared to the plastic rubbermade spouts for 9.99 each its not a bad deal. Spouts are extra (of course).

 

[geologist]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-Gas-Can...416?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0a633d90

lol @ price

He's sold 298 of them, with the lowest price shown being $24.42

 

[GoBlue]

Elroy has no intentions of turning this into a political debate but this gas can rule is a prime example of government over reach.

Just what the hells' business is it of the government to get involved in a simple gas can.

Just one more example of why this country is going broke. Big brother needs to pay attention to the real problems and keep their damn hands off Elroy's gas can.

end of rant...........

I agree.

 

[djkyle65]

I agree.

Elroy has no intentions of turning this into a political debate but this gas can rule is a prime example of government over reach.

Just what the hells' business is it of the government to get involved in a simple gas can.

Just one more example of why this country is going broke. Big brother needs to pay attention to the real problems and keep their damn hands off Elroy's gas can.

end of rant...........

Yep I agree!

 

[greasemonkey44]

lol i just keep a funnel nearby with these new gas cans; better chances of getting it all in there
they are ridiculous though; two friggin hands to pour out the gas.....what a ******** over engineered joke

 

[TreePointer]

No-Spill Jill's cans are very nice.

http://www.nospill.com/

 

[moja01ljeoalaa]

lol i just keep a funnel nearby with these new gas cans; better chances of getting it all in there
they are ridiculous though; two friggin hands to pour out the gas.....what a ******** over engineered joke
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[toolmaker1]

Elroy has no intentions of turning this into a political debate but this gas can rule is a prime example of government over reach.

Just what the hells' business is it of the government to get involved in a simple gas can.

Just one more example of why this country is going broke. Big brother needs to pay attention to the real problems and keep their damn hands off Elroy's gas can.

end of rant...........

+10000000, agreed

 

[sometoyotaguy]

These aren't too bad, but you have to buy the longer nozzle separately. http://www.lowes.com/webapp/wcs/sto... 5-Gallon Plastic Gas Can&CAWELAID=1023903203

 

[Unearthed]

Try JEGS. No girlie-greenie foo-foo caps on them (yet).

 

[rlitman]

These aren't too bad, but you have to buy the longer nozzle separately. http://www.lowes.com/webapp/wcs/sto... 5-Gallon Plastic Gas Can&CAWELAID=1023903203

That's the best I've found in plastic cans (still nothing is better than a Type II metal safety can), and I kind of like them, but I've found that the valve will leak if you invert it, and you can't get the last drops out of the can without inverting it.

 

[twincam00]

Elroy said it best

 

[theoldwizard1]

Just what the hells' business is it of the government to get involved in a simple gas can.

Because we all gave them the power to do it !

Just one more example of why this country is going broke. Big brother needs to pay attention to the real problems and keep their damn hands off Elroy's gas can.

Concur.

If you folks only knew what the government has done with new rules and regs in the auto world.

About 7-10 years ago, lead by CARB, the EPA changed the rules on evaporative emission controls (the carbon canister). Beside adding more system monitoring requirements (to ensure that the system is working correctly) the canisters had to be made much large.

Why ? Because the oil companies successfully lobbied congress to not mandate the 2 hose filling station pumps that have been in use in CA for years ! So instead of having the petroleum companies pay some where between $10 and $100M. We all have to pay an extra $10-$20 per gasoline powered vehicle, for ever and ever !

 

[theoldwizard1]

I have a newer 1gal Govt approved gas can. Leave it outside on a hot day and it will swell to nearly twice its size and you better press the pour lever with the can upright to vent the pressurized vapors off because if you tip it down to pour and then press the lever the hot vapors literally blast the gasoline out the spout like a firehose and it soaks everything within a 3ft radius with gas!

This what happens when you have government people making mandates that can not be achieved in the "real world" !

The point of the new gas cans is to "contain" vapors so that they don't add any hydrocarbons to the atmosphere. As just stated they do that quite well. But, when you want some liquid where are all of those vapors going to go ?

Some brilliant politician will start mandating carbon canisters on gas cans !

Or every small engine will have to have a "dry break" system like NASCAR and the fuel jug will have a vapor return line.

 

[rlitman]

The fuel jug does have a vapor return line. It only has one way in or out. That's why they "glug" so much.
Back when they had a vent, they didn't have a way for vapor to return back in the nozzle, and that's why they removed the vent.

I agree that these cans ****, but the pressurization of the gas in the can by not venting is kind of important when you have ethanol in the fuel. Otherwise daily changes in temperature cause the can to "breathe", which exchanges the air in the headspace of the can, introducing moisture that saturates the ethanol, causing phase separation. Having an unvented can prevents this.

 

[boro_boy70]

I agree that these cans ****, but the pressurization of the gas in the can by not venting is kind of important when you have ethanol in the fuel. Otherwise daily changes in temperature cause the can to "breathe", which exchanges the air in the headspace of the can, introducing moisture that saturates the ethanol, causing phase separation. Having an unvented can prevents this.

So the crappy gov't regulated gas cans are needed to keep the crappy gov't regulated gas from going to ****

We need to get rid of both the cans and the gas.

Elroy for president!!!!!

 

[iroc409]

Elroy has no intentions of turning this into a political debate but this gas can rule is a prime example of government over reach.

Just what the hells' business is it of the government to get involved in a simple gas can.

Just one more example of why this country is going broke. Big brother needs to pay attention to the real problems and keep their damn hands off Elroy's gas can.

end of rant...........

Not that I agree with it, but it's to limit gas vapor into atmosphere. A lot of the new actual gas pumps have an expanding sleeve that locks down on the filler neck of your vehicle to capture gas vapor and keep it in your tank.

I guess they figure gas vapors are bad for the environment just as vehicle emissions are. I have one of those 1 gallon cans with the valve neck style for my lawn mower, and it actually works pretty good--better than the previous "compliant" style neck.

We have to be a lot more careful at work to refuel a vehicle, environment-wise (can't let a drop on the ground like what happens everywhere else). But, I think we'd also be amazed at how much avoidable **** gets dumped on the ground on a daily basis in "the real world". How many people still dump used motor oil on the ground or into street sewers?

 

[Herb]

Buy a yellow diesel fuel can. Mine doesn't have that stupid spout that my red gas cans do.

 

[theoldwizard1]

Buy a yellow diesel fuel can. Mine doesn't have that stupid spout that my red gas cans do.

You do know that is against the law, unless you are repainting your can red.

 

[JASTECH]

Have a look at Kolpin, they are great when off-roading so would think they are durable.
https://www.denniskirk.com/290025.sku?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse

Rotopax is also used off-road.
www.rotopax.com/

Here are a few at one site. I like the off-road approved cans on all my 4x4's.
offroadtrailtools.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=41

Here is my personal favorite, quality and ease of use is top.
http://www.offroadtuff.com/scepter.htm

 

[jsackin]

check out eagle cans. They're a US company making some pretty awesome metal gas cans.

http://www.eagle-mfg.com/cans.html

 

[LSU]

Through the years I've had "old" style gas cans get lent out and not returned. Wish I had them back.

I'm hoarding the last 3 "old style" I have.

I'm going to look at Jeggs.

 

[2manytoyz]

lol i just keep a funnel nearby with these new gas cans; better chances of getting it all in there
they are ridiculous though; two friggin hands to pour out the gas.....what a ******** over engineered joke
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Another issue, the built-in fixed angle spout on the gas cans wouldn't pour into my gas tank without spilling fuel everywhere. The old Gott gas cans had a flexible spout, which worked well.

A good funnel fixes the stupid gas can design. Simply unscrew the spout off the gas can, pour it in the funnel. A clamp helped hold the funnel in place by setting the funnel into the "V" of the clamp handles. The funnel itself has a flexible metal tube that will hold whatever shape it's put in.

 

[NEB Scout]

No pics but you can add a tire valve stem (core removed) to a new style can for a fixed vent.

I dont have a pic either but this does work well for a vent. Just dont use the all rubber valve stem, the rubber falls apart. I used a valve stem from a skid loader or tractor tire.

 

[sometoyotaguy]

Another issue, the built-in fixed angle spout on the gas cans wouldn't pour into my gas tank without spilling fuel everywhere. The old Gott gas cans had a flexible spout, which worked well.

A good funnel fixes the stupid gas can design. Simply unscrew the spout off the gas can, pour it in the funnel. A clamp helped hold the funnel in place by setting the funnel into the "V" of the clamp handles. The funnel itself has a flexible metal tube that will hold whatever shape it's put in.

That's a great idea.