Vinko
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What do you guys use? I saw a made in Taiwan Klein for $45
at HD. Anyone know of a quality American made tool for this? Thanks
at HD. Anyone know of a quality American made tool for this? Thanks
Crimper for Cat5e cables
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paranoid56
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i bought some cheap *** one. part of a kit it was around 5 bucks. worked fine for over 100 connectors i have done. but i do want to pick up a nicer usa build one. so i will keep tabs on this thread
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I have an Ideal 30-496 & a Ziotek HT-2000D kit both are made in Taiwan. The Ziotek HT-2008R is avery nice crimper. I think some of the Platinum Tools are still made in CA.
I suggest you find a crimper that will work with connectors like these:
http://cableorganizer.com/ez-rj45-network-plugs/
the crimper will be different since it will trim the ends of the cable flush, this will make crimping much faster and make sure every crimp is perfect.
http://cableorganizer.com/ez-rj45-network-plugs/
the crimper will be different since it will trim the ends of the cable flush, this will make crimping much faster and make sure every crimp is perfect.
kythri
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I've got a couple of Ideals that I've had for probably 12-15 years. They work well.
I bought a cheap no-name ratcheting crimper from a local electronics store about 6 years ago that I love.
EZ-RJ45 ends are too expensive. All it takes is a little practice, and you can crimp perfect ends with a normal crimper and normal ends.
I bought a cheap no-name ratcheting crimper from a local electronics store about 6 years ago that I love.
EZ-RJ45 ends are too expensive. All it takes is a little practice, and you can crimp perfect ends with a normal crimper and normal ends.
Keep
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Those are pretty damn slick, haven't seen those before.
you want a full cycle ratcheting crimper, not one of the $10 jobs. I have installed thousands of RJ45s over the last few years. I will post pics of the 2 crimpers I use later tonight
edit: the $10 jobs wasnt in reference to the guy posted above me, -im talking about the class of crimper
edit: the $10 jobs wasnt in reference to the guy posted above me, -im talking about the class of crimper
I like this model and gets very high reviews.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16899888401
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10352458&listingid=5030952&dcaid=17902
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16899888401
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10352458&listingid=5030952&dcaid=17902
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TRTOOLSUPPLY
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Imperial #IE-188 cat 5 crimpers,US made
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alex71
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X2!! These connectors are way nicer to use than the standard ones.
bry@n
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Out of all the 45's or 11 connectors I have done (thousands), I have never had an issue with a cheap tool. It's usually because comebody ran the incorrect cable (solid, not stranded).
the only cable that should be 'ran' is solid. Stranded is for patch cables and is limited to 10(i believe) meters. There are specific plugs for each. The best for solid wire being the ones that have 3 prongs on the pins. The problem with the cheapo crimpers is they dont crimp the pins evenly, and there is no guarantee the pins are fully seated. I have seen many a switch and computer port ruined by people plugging a cable in where the pins were not fully seated when it was crimped.
bry@n
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I agree. Personally, I don't belive that connectors should be put on any ran cable. It should be terminated (jack) and then a patch cord used to connect. Provides a good test point.
I have also had issues with patch panels that were destroyed. It's not fun swapping them out.
I have also had issues with patch panels that were destroyed. It's not fun swapping them out.
alex71
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This is the only correct way to wire a building. Using a long patch cable instead of a jack to patch panel punch-down is a hack job (or the person doing the wiring just doesn't know any better).
there are a few situations where it is appropriate to crimp male plugs on premise wiring.
One is when a network closet gets relocated. EIA/TIA spec only allows one intermediate connection between the endpoints, so you put patch panels at the new location and terminate the cables from them with RJ45 plugs which are plugged into the existing patch panels. The only other alternative short of pulling all new runs, is to rip out the patch panels and put a 110 block in, but there is often not enough slack, or due to lease issues you dont want to disturb the existing wiring.
The other common uses are ceiling mounted access points, IP surveillance cameras, etc.
One is when a network closet gets relocated. EIA/TIA spec only allows one intermediate connection between the endpoints, so you put patch panels at the new location and terminate the cables from them with RJ45 plugs which are plugged into the existing patch panels. The only other alternative short of pulling all new runs, is to rip out the patch panels and put a 110 block in, but there is often not enough slack, or due to lease issues you dont want to disturb the existing wiring.
The other common uses are ceiling mounted access points, IP surveillance cameras, etc.
bry@n
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Never use 110 blocks unless absolutely necessary because of space. The c5/ c4 clips go bad and it's a horror to deal with. 66, Krone and bix are way better IMO.
You'd b e suprised at what people think is a "structured" cable plant. I had extensive knowledge on cable plant back in the day. Cat 5e and cat 6 weren't even thought of yet. I am sure the twists play a key role now but I'm just not into that end of the business anymore.
alex71
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I defer to your opinion here, not being in the business myself... My experience with this is limited to wiring our shop (40,000 square feet with about 150 locs) and my house (about 30 locs)... In both cases I did home runs on everything.
your first scenario is pretty ugly no matter what, but I can see how doing it the way you suggested would be the way to go...
Your second scenario--I put jacks above the drop ceiling in several spots for our APs. wouldn't that be the preferred way to do it?
bry@n
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I also thought of something else. We stipulate that there is to be a 10 ft service loop at each termination point. This allows for moving cable around in IDF's. In the grand scheme of things, the extra 20 ft is minimal in cost. Of course, in a campus scenario, budgets have to allow for it.
A good vender will always to this without saying .
A good vender will always to this without saying .
where I was talking about the moves, I was referring to situations where (and i have had two of these last year) where the space is already wired, but into a telephone closet with no room for a rack, customer wont pay for rewiring everything, so you have to jump over from the existing patch panels to the new server room.
service loops and whatnot are nice, but there are times when you have to deal with whats there.