So, I've gone off the deep end... When I started this whole "wood working thing," my idea was to keep it simple and aimed at a system that could do basic cabinetry work ...
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So, I've gone off the deep end... When I started this whole "wood working thing," my idea was to keep it simple and aimed at a system that could do basic cabinetry work ...
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mlisac
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It's gorgeous. Good score!
LegacyIndustrial
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Looks snappy.
Roothawg
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I believe I am falling into this same pitfall. I just spent the last week with my buddy who is a master cabinet maker, building my inlaws a free standing cabinet. I have a whole new list of tools and a need for a shop addition.
StillTooManyHobbies
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Curtis does nice work. That's beautiful. I have the same model and year, and it does not look nearly that good. Pictures later.
My Old Tools
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Ryan, you haven't even started down the slippery slope of vintage machinery. When all of your equipment weighs over 1000# each then let's talk. I moved about 40,000# out of my old shop in the last couple of months. That was about half of the equipment.
OP
Yeah. My collection is made up of home/hobbyist stuff more than industrial. I do list after the big stuff though!
Stuart in MN
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If you want to lust after some BIG woodworking equipment, check out Northfield Woodworking Machinery: http://www.northfieldwoodworking.com/ Built in the USA, and for the most part their products haven't changed in decades - a new table saw or bandsaw looks just like one from the 1940s or 1950s.
Corndoggeh
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Now all you need is the delta drill press of the same era!
OP
I already got that base covered:
http://www.garagejournal.com/2015/09/103-23140-craftsman-drill-press/
My Old Tools
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It's easy to get there. I started where you are.
Jeep Monkey RTR
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Now I just need to figure out who this "Curtis" guy is and how I can get some bargain-able dirt on the fella. Lord knows restorations like that cant be cheap... Fortunately, I CAN BE BOUGHT!!!
Seriously, I admire the quality of both the equipment he restores and your shop. The simplicity is pushing me to scale back the clutter in mine.
Seriously, I admire the quality of both the equipment he restores and your shop. The simplicity is pushing me to scale back the clutter in mine.
OP
You'd be surprised. I actually have around $600 in the jointer.
PugetDude
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Ryan, be very careful. That's a slippery slope you are walking on...
bagged89s10
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That's funny that you posted that today. I just started looking for a 6" jointer 2 days ago. Your's is a beauty.
gahrajmahal
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And there goes the "dust free shop" idea.
roscoe2000
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Enjoy exploring that rat hole!!!
OP
Jointers don't really make dust. They make big chips. Super easy to sweep.
I gotta figure out some dust collection for my old table saw though. That thing is killing me.
Zeke
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I have the same jointer but not a Delta/Milwaukee. I'm not sure I knew Delta and Milwaukee were combined when yours was made. Mine is just a Delta. I have found that the jointer needs to be overdriven with a larger pulley on a 3450 RPM motor. I'm running mine at 5000 RPM. The ideal cutting rate is around 14,000 cuts per minute. To get this you have to determine your infeed speed and that won't be consistant w/o a power feeder.
Personally, I think a power feeder is a boon to jointing and shaping.
Personally, I think a power feeder is a boon to jointing and shaping.
OP
Very neat! Old tools do have a certain appeal. I have a beautiful 1951 Delta Rockwell DP-600 that would go beautifully with that! Even the knobs are similar in size/shape/design.
I've been following your restoration... and yeah, your drill press is gorgeous.
Congrats on the jointer. I have the same model but with the cast iron base instead. I actually have the same drill press as well but not the floor model. That must mean you have good taste in machinery I fully restored the drill press and have plans to restore the jointer possibly in the winter. It works great right now so I'm holding off on it which is killing me.
the Milwaukee is just where it was made. the actual company Milwaukee was not part of delta.
I fully restored the drill press and have plans to restore the jointer possibly in the winter. It works great right now so I'm holding off on it which is killing me. the Milwaukee is just where it was made. the actual company Milwaukee was not part of delta.
OP
So I have a 3450rpm motor with a 2.75" pulley and a 2" pulley on the cutter head. I think that puts me at around 4750rpm and it seems to really like that speed... or, atleast, at the rate I'm pushing wood across it, this speed seems appropriate.
Congrats on the jointer. I have the same model but with the cast iron base instead. I actually have the same drill press as well but not the floor model. That must mean you have good taste in machinery
the Milwaukee is just where it was made. the actual company Milwaukee was not part of delta.
Yes sir. Fantastic taste.
My Old Tools
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3 knife cutter head puts you at about 15,000 cuts per minute. That's about right on ball bearing jointers.
JHuston
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FWIW, Delta Milwaukee was not affiliated with Milwaukee Power Tools, despite the name. it started out as Delta Specialty Co, then it was Delta, then Delta Milwaukee, then Delta Rockwell.
I had the same model of joiner on a cast iron stand for many years ( I passed it on to a friend only because my Hutchinson table saw has one built in) and had nothing but good to say of it. Mine was built around 1937 or so.
-James Huston
trainer
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You can get quite a bit of dust, depending on the circumstances. Lighter, cuts , knives that arent perfectly sharp and the species of wood alll contribute. I find cedar is particularly dusty.
Here's an owner's manual
http://www.vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=3236
406Rich
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My jointer is a delta rockwell 6 inch, early sixties, my table saw is the same as Ryan`s...now just need to find a drill press..
Perrorojo
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Perrorojo
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I keep them and use them for oil dry. Then I burn them in the wood stove.
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Denwood
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So Ryan, where is your vintage planer? Next step....
I just did my first project using rough lumber, so a jointer like yours is required for the first saw face...and match planing your final stock makes everything perfect.
Based on your posts so far, you'll find these tools quite liberating when you can choose your material dimensions.
I just did my first project using rough lumber, so a jointer like yours is required for the first saw face...and match planing your final stock makes everything perfect.
Based on your posts so far, you'll find these tools quite liberating when you can choose your material dimensions.
Falcon67
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I have a 10" saw that sees occasional use, it's stored in the shed. What I do if I have a bunch of trim work to do on it is tape a heavy "contractor" trash bag around the bottom of the saw. Not foolproof but it helps. Then that goes in the trash - thats not recycle I know, but it's also termite food. Got enough of that around already.
Like everything about the jointer - what I want to know is how the heck you get that motor nameplate off without screwing it up. I assume those pins are still available, so maybe vice grip/slide hammer or somesuch.
OP
I'm actually thinking I will eventually get one of those modern Dewalt lunchbox planers simply because they are so small... and vintage planers seem to need a lot of room...
But if a nice vintage deal pops up, who knows...
Denwood
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Ryan, I was thinking the same..so picked up a 13" bench top planer with a helical cutter. It's pretty much idiot proof.
On dust collection with your Delta table saw, an inverted cone shaped deal closing in the bottom, (with a 4" port for collection at the bottom of the cone) is what my Rigid table saw uses. It works well, even with the tilt/raise slots open. I'm sure you could fab something that wasn't permanent to fit there on yours.
On dust collection with your Delta table saw, an inverted cone shaped deal closing in the bottom, (with a 4" port for collection at the bottom of the cone) is what my Rigid table saw uses. It works well, even with the tilt/raise slots open. I'm sure you could fab something that wasn't permanent to fit there on yours.
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My Old Tools
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Chris, those name plate pins are called drive screws or U drive screws. The best way to get them out is from the back. Grinding a slot in the head sometimes works. Grinding the head off usually works but you have to find the shaft if its in a motor housing. You can work a thin blade around the edges to loosen them and then grab with dikes or vise grips. And yes, still available from McMaster and others.
I have the DeWalt 734 planer and it's fantastic. Of you feed it right you will get no snipe. I put mine on a flip top stand.
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JHuston
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Really, you need a planer and a joiner, if you are working with roughsawn stock; the joiner flattens one face, and the planer makes the other face parallel. If you mainly work with material that already has a flat side, you can get by with the planer alone.
With some creative sheetmetal work, you can get some pretty decent dust collection out of a Delta shortbed joiner.
-James Huston
quattro_sinko
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A friend of mine rescued one of these from the curb a four or five years ago and gave it to me. I just finally got it out of storage and took it to a jobsite as I had roughly 2000 lineal feet of pine to mill into trim. Gave it a quick inspection, cleaned up the tables, put a new switch on it (I broke the non-original one in transport). It worked FLAWLESSLY.
((My friend said there was "a big old Delta table saw on the curb, too" but was running late, and couldn't get it into the truck))
((My friend said there was "a big old Delta table saw on the curb, too" but was running late, and couldn't get it into the truck))
Cactus1
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So have you actually started making the cabinet project yet or are you just making a mess???
trainer
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Planer and jointer are two tools that will pay for themselves. Buying rough lumber from a small mill or someone with a hobby sawmill always beats box store prices and quality.
I find snipe isn't as big of a deal as the internet makes it out to be. Air-dried lumber is generally checked on the ends and needs to be trimmed anyway, so it makes sense to thickness plane first, then cut to length.