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I have been reading (with great interest and admiration) about many projects over the past year on The Garage Journal, and decided to start posting about my own project.
I initially envisioned building a small detached garage on the back of our property to store our boat, mountain bikes, and other toys. Then came the idea to install an indoor batting cage for my youngest son, and then the project took on a whole new dimension.
We live in Southern Nevada and needed a functional space to store our toys, boats, and so I could set up my wood working tools (only a hobby). My space was limited as seen below:
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After searching the internet and talking with friends and neighbors, we decided to move ahead. I commissioned a local architect to draw up plans for this project, and he came in with estimates that were out of the stratosphere for cost. Then I started to read more about steel buildings and the benefits of this type of building over conventional stick framing.
We decided to go ahead with steel and I placed an order with General Steel.
Then the fun started. I had to have structural and engineering drawings, as I suspected, for the city building inspectors. This took many more months than anticipated, but after 4 months I received approval from the city to move forward.
Our site, after excavating the area looked as follows:
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And then the we started to receive materials that made for some tricky juggling given our limited space:
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I decided to go with a 6inch slab with rebar, as I knew we would be parking a boat and possibly RV in the future in this structure.
Little did I realize we would need soils reports, and compaction testing, all increasing the cost.
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I decided to install a central drain in the floor so that the boat would drip and drain without leaving large puddles.


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We realized we needed to pour the walks around the building if we were going to erect the building.
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Finally, time to start erecting Steel!
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We decided to insulate the building and then stucco the exterior so it would blend in with the surrounding structures. The city planning group was insistent that we don’t build a steel eyesore in the backyard.
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I put some windows up high to allow some light in the garage.
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We are in the process of finishing the exterior foam and will be adding stucco early next week. I will keep adding photos as we progress.
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I apologize. I realize that I posted this project in the lighting and electrical by mistake. Can a moderator move this to the general section?
Thanks,
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Interesting build, I would think the different expansion and contraction variables of the metal and Stucco would cause problems down the line. Looks to be a nice building though.
 
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Interesting build, I would think the different expansion and contraction variables of the metal and Stucco would cause problems down the line. Looks to be a nice building though.



Yes, that was a concern. We are using a polymer type stucco mixture with a shear plane as well. Not your usual stick frame type of stucco. I will send more pictures once we are there next week.
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Back to my original question, what type of lighting would you recommend for this type of steel garage? I want to put in a indoor batting cage that runs the entire length on the North side of the garage, with at least 14’ tall net. We have 20’ ceiling height.
I would like to know recommended layout of lights to get enough light for my boys to use the batting cage with all doors closed.
Any thoughts?
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More pictures as we are moving along:
The lighting came out great! Thank you all for your advice and wisdom.
Before lights:
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After lights installed and insulation on ceiling:
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Now at he fun part- painting the ceiling! I can not recommend enough using a good spray system and scissor lift to make life easier. We have 20’ ceiling.IMG_0393.jpgIMG_0923.jpgIMG_0919.jpgIMG_0396.jpgIMG_0400.jpg


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Progress! Dang, painting all that looks like a real PIA (but worth it). I see you moved the lights around the garage doors. Refresh my memory - what type of doors will they be? I'll have to make some time later to post your layout.
 
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Progress! Dang, painting all that looks like a real PIA (but worth it). I see you moved the lights around the garage doors. Refresh my memory - what type of doors will they be? I'll have to make some time later to post your layout.



We have traditional small panel insulated steel doors going in with a walnut wood color paint, that are to installed with jack screw as a high lift door. These will go all the way to the ceiling, thus we had to move two lights around each garage door on the ceiling. The light inside the garage is incredible! Thank you for the layout and recommendations. My boys are going to really appreciate this light in the batting cage.


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Awesome build. I have never seen that done to a metal building before. (stucco over the regular siding).

Keep the pictures coming.
 
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Garage doors were next. I went through Costco to get Amarr Heritage 3000 insulated doors 16’x14’ and 14’x12’. We went with high lift and wall mounted LiftMaster 8500W openers

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It is now much less windy in the garage, and much cooler as we get into our warmer weather. It was a nice 82 degrees just now, with 96 degrees and sunny this morning.


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Now for the interior walls for our batting cage.

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Working around the existing steel.
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Even the dog was happy with the progress.
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I followed advice on GJ and used Kills Original oil based primer for the OSB to protect from water exposure.
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I still have one section of wall to go, as we are not done with electrical panel yet. We need two grounding rods, as per local inspector. Hopefully, we can get all done this week, and finally get wall closed up, after final inspections.


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A long weekend of floor preparation for dye and sealing.
I thought I would be done grinding in 6 hours. Instead it took 2 days, total of 23 hours!!

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Even the dog had fun.

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I rented and Edco 2EC diamond grinder, with the Edco dry vacuum system. It was easy to grind when the bits were sharp and working well. I was the first person to use the new machine, and it took some tweaking to get it working well.
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I still have some hand grinding left around the base of the walls and steel support columns, but it will have to wait for another day.



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I am following the idea posted by Revamped

Revamped's Delta Dye and HD6525 Acrylic install
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I spoke with Scotty at Legacy Industrial and placed my order almost 10 days ago. I hope to have everything by next weekend, so I can get started with the Delta Dye and then sealing with the HD-6600 MMA Concrete Sealer. I decided to try blending a few colors, as I really like the look of Revamped garage floor in the post above. I will post more photos as we progress.
Next weekend will be slow work on the garage, as my son has a baseball tournament. We need to push ahead to get his batting cage set up soon.


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Working on grinding the floor for preparation of Delta Dye followed by sealing with Legacy Industrial HD-6600 MMA sealer.


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Grinding with Edco 2EC unit and vacuum system

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Hand grinding the walls and everything the 2 disk push unit couldn’t get.
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Patchy streaks after Edco grinding. The floor was not as level as I thought!

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Grinding was hard work but worth it to get the best looking floor!

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Even the dog approved of the job!



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We decided to fill in the saw cut expansion joints on the floor. We used the Legacy Industrial product for the project. The set times are very fast in the Summer in Southern Nevada when it is 92 degrees at 9 pm.
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I used a plastic application bottle, but quickly learned to only mix half of a small bottle, about enough to do 10-12’ of crack filling. You may be able to use more at a cooler temperature, but this exothermic reaction created some good heat after mixing! You have to work quickly in our heat
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The cracks look good after MORE grinding again! I have over 40 hours of floor preparation for this project, much longer than I anticipated, but hoping for a beautiful floor that looks great. My last DIY big box epoxy job in our last house looked good for several years and then started to yellow. I etched with muriatic acid for that floor, but decided to grind this floor.


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Cool build!

So, silly question. How did they attach the foam for the stucco to the building?

I was looking at the pictures and in some pics it looks like they did two screws per board with big washers, but in other pictures there are no holes so that makes me think they glued it?
 
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The foam is both glued and secured with fasteners (sheet metal screws with plastic washers). This is a common method for applying the foam.


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Now for some color to the floor.
I started with red oak and then added amber.

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Initial spraying of Delta Dye Red Oak

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Then I added some Amber Delta Dye

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Still not very impressive when just sprayed on. I followed Revamped’s suggestion and used a mop to mix the dye in random patterns
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All of these above pictures are just the Delta Dye on a dry ground slab. There is some very interesting patterns seen in the concrete after grinding and then power washing with Honda gas sprayer. The Dye picks up all of the imperfections in the concrete. I will try to show more details in next set of photos.
As with all of these projects, I estimated 3 hours to apply the floor dye, and instead it took almost 6 hours. This was hard work blending the colors with the mop, as the concrete just chewed up the mop head quickly. The patterns that developed are very unique and interesting. It has a look of “Rust” or even “Leather”.
The wife is going to inspect before I seal the floor next. I think she will want more color. I still have some Mahogany dye that I was going to use for some accents, if we needed more richness.


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Just finished with sealing last night using Legacy Industrial HD-6600 MMA, 3 coats on top of Delta Dye.
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