DeWalt DW735X Planer

oldtimehockey · Mar 17, 2023

Hi Guys and Gals on the Garage Journal
I bought a brand new 13 inch DeWalt DW735X planer with the infeed and outfeed wings and a set of brand new cutter blades. I know it has the built in blower to help push the wood chips out of the machine. I also have my planer hooked up to a very powerful Oneida dust collection system. After I run a board through the planer, taking very thin cuts, I am finding a series of small "depressions" or "indentations" scattered throughout the face of the board I just planed. Am I doing something wrong...??? Do other woodworkers out there get the same results...??? Any comments or recommendations/advice or tips and tricks that y'all are willing to share...??? Thank you so very much. Happy St. Patrick's Day to all. Slainte, Oldtimehockey

Captain Spaulding · Mar 17, 2023

What wood? Have you checked that the indeed and out feed tables are parallel with the planer bed?

oldtimehockey · Mar 17, 2023

Captain Spaulding said:
What wood? Have you checked that the indeed and out feed tables are parallel with the planer bed?

Thank you for replying...Planing straight grain Douglas Fir trim stock for a window trim job. The infeed and outfeed wings seem to be correctly installed. I had heard some scuttlebutt that the combination of the DeWalt's integral chip blower may not work well along with a strong suction dust collection system running at the same time. It's almost as if some chips get trappedinside the machine, stick to the rollers and then the stuck chips compress the face of the boards in several tiny spots along the length of the planed side of the board. Does that make sense...???

Captain Spaulding · Mar 17, 2023

Could be chip marks. Run it without the dust collector and see what you get.

cgrutt · Mar 17, 2023

I think I have same planer and used to run it with an Oneida-air collector don't recall having any issues with the dust collector. Is the tension bar (if yours has one) pushed in when running stock through it? I kept a piece of 1/2 plywood that I ran through bottom of machine across both infeed and outfeed wings to ensure everything was on same plane before. Clamped it to end of outfeed table to keep it in place. Also changing direction of boards may help if you're getting any tearout but doubt that would be problem with Doug Fir.

dscheidt · Mar 17, 2023

Do you have nicks in your blade? The dewalt blades ****, and I've had nicks in any set of mine after 2 boards, tops.

RTM · Mar 17, 2023

those sound exactly like the indents I get when not using my dust collector. I have the 733. Let me check w my buddy w a 735. Is the X important differences?

Can you add a wye to the DC inlet to bleed off some excess vacuum to maybe help the internal blower?

never enuf time · Mar 18, 2023

It's the chips from previous pass denting board. Yes this happens to me also. Chips are more prevalent on small width boards.
Run wider boards first, clean or blow with compressed air to do best get rid of chips.

Sometimes dust collector is overwhelmed from a board and will leave chips/shavings. Its a learning/frustrating process

neophyte · Mar 18, 2023

Douglas fir is full of pitch, especially new stuff from a home center that is not really that dry.
The pitch can and will get on the rollers pulling wood thru the planer, resulting in chip buildup.
Some shops won’t let pine or Douglas fir or similar woods be planed, because they fon’t want to deal with cleaning the pitch out of the planers and jointers.
Even decades old fir lumber will get pitch all over tools though.

decableguy2000 · Mar 18, 2023

I would check the blades for damage, if I remember correctly, the blades are shrpened on 2 sides and can be flipped.

jar944 · Mar 18, 2023

Pics of the dents?

RTM · Mar 18, 2023

decableguy2000 said:
I would check the blades for damage, if I remember correctly, the blades are shrpened on 2 sides and can be flipped.

Damaged blades will give you consistent ridges down the board, not random ones. If you can offset the damaged spots, you can hide the ridges. Tthe 735 blades do have 2 sharpened edges, at least the replacements do now.

tarbellb · Mar 19, 2023

super soft wood plus rollers plus chips = dents

you may want to try running compressed air or a blower directed at the offending area.

oldtimehockey · Mar 19, 2023

cgrutt said:
I think I have same planer and used to run it with an Oneida-air collector don't recall having any issues with the dust collector. Is the tension bar (if yours has one) pushed in when running stock through it? I kept a piece of 1/2 plywood that I ran through bottom of machine across both infeed and outfeed wings to ensure everything was on same plane before. Clamped it to end of outfeed table to keep it in place. Also changing direction of boards may help if you're getting any tearout but doubt that would be problem with Doug Fir.

Thank you so much for your time and your help.

oldtimehockey · Mar 19, 2023

dscheidt said:
Do you have nicks in your blade? The dewalt blades ****, and I've had nicks in any set of mine after 2 boards, tops.

The blades are brand new out of the box but I'll check again for nicks and damage. Thank you for your time and your reply.

oldtimehockey · Mar 19, 2023

tarbellb said:
super soft wood plus rollers plus chips = dents

you may want to try running compressed air or a blower directed at the offending area.

Okay...that sounds encouraging...!!! Thank you for your time and responding.

oldtimehockey · Mar 19, 2023

jar944 said:
Pics of the dents?

The dents are very small and are more easily felt with my fingers than visual...but they are definite there. Thank you. I'll try to post some pics if I can capture them with my camera.

oldtimehockey · Mar 19, 2023

neophyte said:
Douglas fir is full of pitch, especially new stuff from a home center that is not really that dry.
The pitch can and will get on the rollers pulling wood thru the planer, resulting in chip buildup.
Some shops won’t let pine or Douglas fir or similar woods be planed, because they fon’t want to deal with cleaning the pitch out of the planers and jointers.
Even decades old fir lumber will get pitch all over tools though.

Wow...that explains a lot...Thank you so very much for teaching me that.

oldtimehockey · Mar 19, 2023

Captain Spaulding said:
Could be chip marks. Run it without the dust collector and see what you get.

Yes...I intend on trying to plane the boards without the dust collector but that could defeat the purpose of my collection system. If the dents go away without the dust collection, then the planer gets returned to Rockler.

oldtimehockey · Mar 19, 2023

tarbellb said:
super soft wood plus rollers plus chips = dents

you may want to try running compressed air or a blower directed at the offending area.

Thank you...I'll try that.

oldtimehockey · Mar 19, 2023

never enuf time said:
It's the chips from previous pass denting board. Yes this happens to me also. Chips are more prevalent on small width boards.
Run wider boards first, clean or blow with compressed air to do best get rid of chips.

Sometimes dust collector is overwhelmed from a board and will leave chips/shavings. Its a learning/frustrating process

That makes sense because my boards are not wide at all...I've ripped them down to less width than 1 x 6 stock. I hope my dust collector isn't overwhelmed...that would be more disappointing than this planer problem.

oldtimehockey · Mar 19, 2023

cgrutt said:
I think I have same planer and used to run it with an Oneida-air collector don't recall having any issues with the dust collector. Is the tension bar (if yours has one) pushed in when running stock through it? I kept a piece of 1/2 plywood that I ran through bottom of machine across both infeed and outfeed wings to ensure everything was on same plane before. Clamped it to end of outfeed table to keep it in place. Also changing direction of boards may help if you're getting any tearout but doubt that would be problem with Doug Fir.

Wow...thank you for your reply...I'll try both of those tips...thank you for your time and replting to my thread.

oldtimehockey · Mar 19, 2023

dscheidt said:
Do you have nicks in your blade? The dewalt blades ****, and I've had nicks in any set of mine after 2 boards, tops.

Blades are brand new but I'll double check them...thanks.

oldtimehockey · Mar 20, 2023

I'm taking the DeWalt planer back to Rockler for a full refund. Thank you to all for your replies.
oldtimehockey

Aileron · Mar 20, 2023

i bought a 735 end of december . haven't used it yet but from what i read about the 735 it worked better and was not supposed to have a dust collection hooked up to it.

tarbellb · Mar 20, 2023

Did you try running without the dust collector, cleaning the rollers, compressed air, or harder wood?

oldtimehockey · Mar 22, 2023

tarbellb said:
Did you try running without the dust collector, cleaning the rollers, compressed air, or harder wood?

I didn't try any of that. Using the planer without the dust collection made zero sense. The planer is now resting comfortably at my local Rockler dealer. Thanks to all for your time.

tak1313 · Mar 22, 2023

I've had 3 planers, including the Dewalt, and have had those with all planers, especially on softwood. As others have said, they are caused by chips getting pressed into the wood by the rollers. There's almost no way that I know of to COMPLETELY eliminate it ALL THE TIME.

I don't know what Oneida "system" you are using, but if it's based on a vacuum cleaner, it's doesn't pull enough CFM to eliminate all the chips while planing.

The closest I can get is by using my full size dust collector. I find the "assist" provided by Dewalt's internal vacuum plus the dust collector helps in just about eliminating the problem.

tarbellb · Mar 22, 2023

oldtimehockey said:
I didn't try any of that. Using the planer without the dust collection made zero sense. The planer is now resting comfortably at my local Rockler dealer. Thanks to all for your time.

Running without the dust collector is more of a test to see if it made it worse, then you can start to remedy from there.

Either way youve made the decision to step up to the big boy planers, hope that solves your issue, keep us posted!

neophyte · Mar 23, 2023

tarbellb said:
Running without the dust collector is more of a test to see if it made it worse, then you can start to remedy from there.

Either way youve made the decision to step up to the big boy planers, hope that solves your issue, keep us posted!

My experience with a few “industrial” planers says that the chip issue might still exist,
Although maybe the chips will stick a bit less yo steel drive rollers or the industrial units will allow slightly better chip collection.
I still routinely had to stray compressed air across planer beds as lumber was being pulled thru and planed, to clear chips, even on industrial machines with industrial level dust collection.

tarbellb · Mar 23, 2023

Exactly

But op didn't want to experiment, hope they find a solution

metaldad · Mar 23, 2023

well, this is an interesting topic.
i also recently acquired a dewalt 73somethingornother
ran a coupla oak boards just for operation check.
seemed to work ok. wont know for sure until it gets warm out

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