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Did I mess up? Craftsman table saw

ARFLY

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Found an old Craftsman table saw at a pawn shop today. It was an old Heritage series probably late 1940's. It had the motor with a new belt and a new blade. Also had the cast iron table extensions, the fence but a newer Delta guide. It didn't have the stand either. It was in decent shape, and they were asking $59.99. I offered $60 out the door and they load in the truck. They would not come off the sales tax which amounts to about $5, and they said they would help me get it in the truck but wouldn't load it for me. I told them they could keep it. Did I mess up on this or should I have gone ahead and grabbed it?
 
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Tilt table or tilt arbor? If it was a tilt table I would pass, tilt arbor eh, the price is not bad but just depends on what you want/need it for. Also, pics would help a lot in this case. How was the motor mounted?
 
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Looked to be a tilt arbor. The motor was mounted off the back side of the saw. The motor mount consisted of 2 steel rods that connected inside the cabinet under the saw with a mount that had the motor attached with 4 bolts. There was a tilt mechanism on the mount so the tension on the belt could be adjusted.
 

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Gotcha, sounds like the standard tilt arbor model. Price is decent, I may have walked too with them not willing to work on the price, it's a damn pawn shop, they are supposed to haggle...
 
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Gotcha, sounds like the standard tilt arbor model. Price is decent, I may have walked too with them not willing to work on the price, it's a damn pawn shop, they are supposed to haggle...

No kidding. I bet they don't have $20 in it.
 
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If you need a table saw and it was the same one you linked, you should have bought it. They are pretty decent saws. In a way I think the 8" ones are more useful, due to the lack of power and motor location. The full size 10" ones take up the space as a cabinet saw.
 

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Funny story just today I was in a pawn shop and the very sweet pawn owner had a drill I was interested in marked at $39.00 dollars. Beat to hell and back, run over by a truck and kicked off a high rise it still sounded good. I smiled and said "Sir would you take $30.00 dollars for it".

Too which this very loving, kind, humble human being said..."It is marked at $39.00 dollars get the hell out of my shop".

I kid you not...:lol:

It is a wonder how these guys get away with that kind of ****?
 
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ARFLY

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Funny story just today I was in a pawn shop and the very sweet pawn owner had a drill I was interested in marked at $39.00 dollars. Beat to hell and back, run over by a truck and kicked off a high rise it still sounded good. I smiled and said "Sir would you take $30.00 dollars for it".

Too which this very loving, kind, humble human being said..."It is marked at $39.00 dollars get the hell out of my shop".

I kid you not...:lol:

It is a wonder how these guys get away with that kind of ****?

After the initial shock, that would actually be pretty funny.
 

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If you need a table saw and it was the same one you linked, you should have bought it. They are pretty decent saws. In a way I think the 8" ones are more useful, due to the lack of power and motor location. The full size 10" ones take up the space as a cabinet saw.

Wow! Is this a first? A GJ member who prefers something not only smaller but lacking power.:dunno:
I have a vintage '50s craftsman 10 inch saw with the 2 cast iron extensions. Sure, it takes up the same space as a cabinet saw but it sits on a custom stand I built featuring 4 inch rubber casters. Super convenient for me, a guy who has to wheel it outside to do work.
 
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Wow! Is this a first? A GJ member who prefers something not only smaller but lacking power.:dunno:
I have a vintage '50s craftsman 10 inch saw with the 2 cast iron extensions. Sure, it takes up the same space as a cabinet saw but it sits on a custom stand I built featuring 4 inch rubber casters. Super convenient for me, a guy who has to wheel it outside to do work.

Untill you realize that the smaller diameter blade has more force at the tip to plow through the wood vs a larger under powered 10" blade. With the 1hp iirc motor on there it will rip any 2" hardwood. Space efficiency wise a cabinet saw will usually take up less space than a 10" contractor (motor out the back style) saw. You can put a cabinet saw on wheels and actually move it around easier than a contractor style due to weight distribution.
 

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Untill you realize that the smaller diameter blade has more force at the tip to plow through the wood vs a larger under powered 10" blade. With the 1hp iirc motor on there it will rip any 2" hardwood. Space efficiency wise a cabinet saw will usually take up less space than a 10" contractor (motor out the back style) saw. You can put a cabinet saw on wheels and actually move it around easier than a contractor style due to weight distribution.

Good point. With identical motors, the 8 inch blade will exert more force to do the wood cutting and will be less likely to stall. But at the same rpm, the 10 inch blade will have a greater velocity at the edge which with a fine tooth blade might make a difference in the resulting cut.
 

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Good point. With identical motors, the 8 inch blade will exert more force to do the wood cutting and will be less likely to stall. But at the same rpm, the 10 inch blade will have a greater velocity at the edge which with a fine tooth blade might make a difference in the resulting cut.

Exactly. And if you adjust the pulley sizes so that both blades have the same tip velocity (about 4000 rpm on the 8-inch blade), the torque values come out the same.
 
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