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Even better, I can use it for layout work with a happy smile as I only paid $20 for it at a yard sale. A man down the road a few miles from me died and his alternate state seeking son had a yard sale of the man’s tools. I was looking at it sitting on the grass when he saw me and commented that he did not know what it was but that it would make a good weight for something like a tractor because it was heavy as hell. I nodded and agreed, then remarked that I could not even pick it up if I bought it. His buddy helping him jumped right over and they both loaded it into my truck. Someone had made a lifting eye attachment for it so it was easy to unload back at my shop. It sat in my storage barn for around 25 years before I recently decided that it needed to work for it’s previously relaxing life style.
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-I feel a tear coming to my eye.
 
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OccupantRJ said:
Even better, I can use it for layout work with a happy smile as I only paid $20 for it at a yard sale. A man down the road a few miles from me died and his alternate state seeking son had a yard sale of the man’s tools. I was looking at it sitting on the grass when he saw me and commented that he did not know what it was but that it would make a good weight for something like a tractor because it was heavy as hell. I nodded and agreed, then remarked that I could not even pick it up if I bought it. His buddy helping him jumped right over and they both loaded it into my truck. Someone had made a lifting eye attachment for it so it was easy to unload back at my shop. It sat in my storage barn for around 25 years before I recently decided that it needed to work for it’s previously relaxing life style.
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I believe that may be an stratospheric level of YOU ****!
 
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Are any drill press vises still made in the USA?

What are some good vintage brands to keep an eye out for on marketplace?

Also, how about the different types of drill press vises?
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I got this 8" Cardinal (8B) vise at a machine auction about a month ago. Kind of a long story but after all was said and done it was free.
I thought about scrapping it as it was so huge, unbelievably encrusted with filth and deadly looking. Also, the jaw inserts were missing and I hadn't heard of the brand before. So I did some googling and learned what some of you already know - that Cardinal is still in business and making these in Pomona Calif. They are not cheap.
That kinda changed my opinion of it so I dissassembled it, did a deep clean, derust and gave it some prime and paint.
After that I kinda got attached to the old thing so I ordered new hardened jaw inserts for it from Cardinal. $200 ouch! But it's only money right?
My drill press is bare--ly big enough to handle it but It's heavy enough - 105 lbs according to Cardinal, that for most things I do it won't need to be bolted down.
 

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Ultradog MN said:
I got this 8" Cardinal (8B) vise at a machine auction about a month ago. Kind of a long story but after all was said and done it was free.
I thought about scrapping it as it was so huge, unbelievably encrusted with filth and deadly looking. Also, the jaw inserts were missing and I hadn't heard of the brand before. So I did some googling and learned what some of you already know - that Cardinal is still in business and making these in Pomona Calif. They are not cheap.
That kinda changed my opinion of it so I dissassembled it, did a deep clean, derust and gave it some prime and paint.
After that I kinda got attached to the old thing so I ordered new hardened jaw inserts for it from Cardinal. $200 ouch! But it's only money right?
My drill press is bare--ly big enough to handle it but It's heavy enough - 105 lbs according to Cardinal, that for most things I do it won't need to be bolted down.
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That is a gem and well worth the money. It is well worth $200.00. Nice find.
 
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Ultradog MN said:
I got this 8" Cardinal (8B) vise at a machine auction about a month ago. Kind of a long story but after all was said and done it was free.
I thought about scrapping it as it was so huge, unbelievably encrusted with filth and deadly looking. Also, the jaw inserts were missing and I hadn't heard of the brand before. So I did some googling and learned what some of you already know - that Cardinal is still in business and making these in Pomona Calif. They are not cheap.
That kinda changed my opinion of it so I dissassembled it, did a deep clean, derust and gave it some prime and paint.
After that I kinda got attached to the old thing so I ordered new hardened jaw inserts for it from Cardinal. $200 ouch! But it's only money right?
My drill press is bare--ly big enough to handle it but It's heavy enough - 105 lbs according to Cardinal, that for most things I do it won't need to be bolted down.
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That thing is HUGE! I have the 3" Speedvise, which I also got for free as the gal running the estate sale interpreted the half-nut as broken.
I made aluminum jaws inserts for mine.
 
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Ultradog MN said:
My drill press is bare--ly big enough to handle it but It's heavy enough - 105 lbs according to Cardinal, that for most things I do it won't need to be bolted down.
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I have a 3", a 4" and a 6". Love these old vises.

At 105lbs it will do some serious damage if it ever seizes on the drill bit and spins out of your hand. Might even knock the drill press over. Be careful.
 
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Laptop--brand new--with new load of Firefox.

We went through this identical problem a few weeks ago. It's the site. I'm not the only one experiencing it.

I upload my images to Flickr and then post links here.
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Ahh, the real deal.
I use my phone and let GJ host my photos.
Try it?
 
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Ahh, the real deal.
I use my phone and let GJ host my photos.
Try it?
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Site issue. It's why a thread exists discussing the issue by a mod.

Tried the phone thing, laptop, and desktop. Even images that somehow attach and post one day, won't attach and post a week later. And it meets the specifications of file type and below a specific size.

This host for the forum *****.
 
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Ultradog MN said:
I got this 8" Cardinal (8B) vise at a machine auction about a month ago. Kind of a long story but after all was said and done it was free.
I thought about scrapping it as it was so huge, unbelievably encrusted with filth and deadly looking. Also, the jaw inserts were missing and I hadn't heard of the brand before. So I did some googling and learned what some of you already know - that Cardinal is still in business and making these in Pomona Calif. They are not cheap.
That kinda changed my opinion of it so I dissassembled it, did a deep clean, derust and gave it some prime and paint.
After that I kinda got attached to the old thing so I ordered new hardened jaw inserts for it from Cardinal. $200 ouch! But it's only money right?
My drill press is bare--ly big enough to handle it but It's heavy enough - 105 lbs according to Cardinal, that for most things I do it won't need to be bolted down.
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I seldom bolt down my drill press vises. Just alway position them so if a drill does happen to catch, the vise handle is against the drill press column so it can't spin.
 
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If you're not smart enough to position the vise so that can't happen, you have no business running a drill press.
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Agree.
I think its about Newtons basic laws on mass and acceleration. It would have to be a big drill and a big bit to throw that vise around.
Even a half inch bit would break before it moved a 105 lb vise at all.
 
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Ultradog MN said:
I got this 8" Cardinal (8B) vise at a machine auction about a month ago. Kind of a long story but after all was said and done it was free.
I thought about scrapping it as it was so huge, unbelievably encrusted with filth and deadly looking. Also, the jaw inserts were missing and I hadn't heard of the brand before. So I did some googling and learned what some of you already know - that Cardinal is still in business and making these in Pomona Calif. They are not cheap.
That kinda changed my opinion of it so I dissassembled it, did a deep clean, derust and gave it some prime and paint.
After that I kinda got attached to the old thing so I ordered new hardened jaw inserts for it from Cardinal. $200 ouch! But it's only money right?
My drill press is bare--ly big enough to handle it but It's heavy enough - 105 lbs according to Cardinal, that for most things I do it won't need to be bolted down.
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I finally got around to using the big 8B Cardinal this weekend.
I needed to drill through some pieces of 1/4" channel iron. 13/16" bit, heavy center punch mark but no pilot hole. Moderate feed. I didn't need to bolt the vise down. Just hand held it. It wiggled the vise a wee bit but I wasn't at all worried about it slinging the vise off the drill.
I'm really going to like this thing.
 

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Ultradog MN said:
I finally got around to using the big 8B Cardinal this weekend.
I needed to drill through some pieces of 1/4" channel iron. 13/16" bit, heavy center punch mark but no pilot hole. Moderate feed. I didn't need to bolt the vise down. Just hand held it. It wiggled the vise a wee bit but I wasn't at all worried about it slinging the vise off the drill.
I'm really going to like this thing.
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I use my 3B damned near every day. I can't imagine having an 8"--nor the DP to use it on!
 
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Ultradog MN said:
I finally got around to using the big 8B Cardinal this weekend.
I needed to drill through some pieces of 1/4" channel iron. 13/16" bit, heavy center punch mark but no pilot hole. Moderate feed. I didn't need to bolt the vise down. Just hand held it. It wiggled the vise a wee bit but I wasn't at all worried about it slinging the vise off the drill.
I'm really going to like this thing.
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I always orient the vise, or the work piece, so it will stop against the column (or a stop in one of the T slots) if the drill catches.
 
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crguy said:
I always orient the vise, or the work piece, so it will stop against the column (or a stop in one of the T slots) if the drill catches.
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Thanks.
Did you read up on Newton's first and second laws pertaining to inertia, mass and acceleration?
I think it best to practice science and safety together.
 
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I have a 3/8-16 hole tapped through my table. I keep a 3” eyebolt screwed into it most of the time and store it screwed partially in from under the table to keep it handy when it is not needed. There was an arc of shame hole already there, so I tapped it to take advantage of it. It makes a perfect anti spin device whether using the vise or just drilling flat plate. The eye makes it as a wing bolt, so no tools required.
 
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I just don't get it. The "arc of shame" on a DP table makes sense--drilled through something without making sure the center hole was centered--but "Oops! I missed the thing I had clamped in the vise"?

But then, I generally don't drink when using power tools....
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Fairly common in production work drilling aluminum. The drill point will retain aluminum and the quickest way to clear it is to hit a piece of steel quickly and go back to work. Notice most of the hits are away from the jaw edge. TIME = $$$
 
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Fairly common in production work drilling aluminum. The drill point will retain aluminum and the quickest way to clear it is to hit a piece of steel quickly and go back to work. Notice most of the hits are away from the jaw edge. TIME = $$$
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Anybody that hits the vice with the drill bit should be slapped every occurrence.
 
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