Duralast ratchet bait and switch with inside pics

[Altec]

How much does the regular 3/8 drive duralast ratchet cost?
I'm guessing about 20$ (some one correct me if I'm wrong)

(putting flame suit on)

Rather then buy a tool that is constantly changing design/make, Why not just go on ebay or even the classified here and get either a nice used S-K 45170 (for instance, many others are reasonable too) or a new Williams "Snap-on 936" clone? The Williams, last I looked, go around 25$, and the S-K's 10$ to 15$ for a nice looking one.

Not looking to start something, but it seems like it isnt worth the headache worrying over a import tool thats changing design (often?). I mean the S-K Pro's have not changed much at all since the '30's.



I'll shut up now.

I barked up that tree already...

While some would like to comment on not being able to afford "Good" tools, when a better cost effective option is placed in front of them they clam up.

Bottom line is we tried...

Its 15.99

Plus the nice ability to walk into any of 5000 az stores without receipt and get a new one for free

Plenty of Williams, SK, Wright, Proto, Blackhawk, Etc, Etc, Etc dealers out there.

Although, I have to admit. I have never broken a 936 ratchet (What the Williams is)... The gas to drive to AZ would add up quick if you have to take advantage of the "5000" stores.

On the other hand, I've never broken a ratchet taking out batteries...

 

[Crappycivic]

Ive never broken one either, duralast or great neck but i Guess u never changed them in the older gm cars then where u have to remove a brace to take the battery out, I've had to break out the breaker bar on many of those

 

[Gtamazing]

It's because somewhere along the GJ line the Duralast got this reputation for being some finely crafted piece of bolt turning equipment. I hear the Duralast ratchet is forged in heaven by angels using beams of sunshine and quenched in holy water.(in heaven it's just called water though)

 

[Pro-Painter]

How much does the regular 3/8 drive duralast ratchet cost?
I'm guessing about 20$ (some one correct me if I'm wrong)

(putting flame suit on)

Rather then buy a tool that is constantly changing design/make, Why not just go on ebay or even the classified here and get either a nice used S-K 45170 (for instance, many others are reasonable too) or a new Williams "Snap-on 936" clone? The Williams, last I looked, go around 25$, and the S-K's 10$ to 15$ for a nice looking one.

Not looking to start something, but it seems like it isnt worth the headache worrying over a import tool thats changing design (often?). I mean the S-K Pro's have not changed much at all since the '30's.



I'll shut up now.

Personally, you couldn't pay me to use that SK ratchet or the wright listed earlier in this **** fest of a thread. I hate round head ratchets, Neither have any features I like in a ratchet.

My Duralast ratchets have everything I like in a ratchet, and have a warranty that is available in any direction I may travel. They are better, stronger and cheaper then any craftsman, Kobalt, husky,NAPA etc or any other locally available ratchet. I would 1000 to 1 rather have my Duralast then the SK, RH Williams, or wright ratchet posted in this thread.

As for the sealed head Williams, I have a few and they are basically the same exact ratchet as the duralast with a higher price tag, less desirable handle and a hard to obtain warranty. And not everyone needs Snap-on.


The Duralast ratchet has been the same since 2003 when Duralast hand tools first came out. They are still available and will be for some time. At the beginning of 2011, AZ discontinued most of the great neck tools and introduced a whole new line of cheaper duralast sets. All of the old duralast ratchets and wrenches are the same and will continue to be so. Only the sockets have changed. I will say this again, ONLY THE SETS HAVE A DIFFERENT RATCHET, THE "GOOD" DURALAST RATCHET IS STILL AVAILABLE AT ALL YOUR LOCAL AZ STORES AND IS NOT BEING DISCONTINUED.

 

[Altec]

Ive never broken one either, duralast or great neck but i Guess u never changed them in the older gm cars then where u have to remove a brace to take the battery out, I've had to break out the breaker bar on many of those

Guess I used telepathy and told the metal hold down to come off while working on this little project of mine?
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/Mrjunior/Truck Project/IMAG0883.jpg

Changed both batteries on this the other day. Must have done the same.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/Mrjunior/trucks/100_5643.jpg


Don't assume. Although, if you want a tip for better hold downs. PB Blaster, and a 3/8 impact. Hand tools take to long, and are way more likely to shear the threaded rod then a impact.

 

[Gtamazing]

Guess I used telepathy and told the metal hold down to come off while working on this little project of mine?
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/Mrjunior/Truck Project/IMAG0883.jpg

Changed both batteries on this the other day. Must have done the same.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/Mrjunior/trucks/100_5643.jpg


Don't assume. Although, if you want a tip for better hold downs. PB Blaster, and a 3/8 impact. Hand tools take to long, and are way more likely to shear the threaded rod then a impact.

I like the "3" Do you drive that while looking for a *******.

 

[Crappycivic]

Lol I wish the store I worked at let me use an impact to work on customer cars

 

[Altec]

I like the "3" Do you drive that while looking for a *******.

YES! THANK YOU! I've have to explain that Ga'Damn 3 more times then I care to!

I literally saw the movie, and went out and did that right after!

 

[trboxman]

It's because somewhere along the GJ line the Duralast got this reputation for being some finely crafted piece of bolt turning equipment. I hear the Duralast ratchet is forged in heaven by angels using beams of sunshine and quenched in holy water.(in heaven it's just called water though)

You're telling me it's made by SnapOn??!?!?! Wow!!

 

[Crappycivic]

Now that would be sweet, a telepathy ratchet, I'd love one of those, you should pitch that idea to duralast and see if they'll make them, they might ask you to travel to Taiwan though, hope you're not afraid of flying

 

[RangerDaleXp]

How much does the regular 3/8 drive duralast ratchet cost?
I'm guessing about 20$ (some one correct me if I'm wrong)

(putting flame suit on)

Rather then buy a tool that is constantly changing design/make, Why not just go on ebay or even the classified here and get either a nice used S-K 45170 (for instance, many others are reasonable too) or a new Williams "Snap-on 936" clone? The Williams, last I looked, go around 25$, and the S-K's 10$ to 15$ for a nice looking one.

Not looking to start something, but it seems like it isnt worth the headache worrying over a import tool thats changing design (often?). I mean the S-K Pro's have not changed much at all since the '30's.



I'll shut up now.

No need to put the flame suit on but I will make one correction. All manufacturers change designs regardless of who they are. Matco parts from a ratchet 20 years ago most likely will not fit a Matco ratchet today. That also goes for some of the other names you have listed.

As for warranty goes. It is nice to know that the place you need to take a broken tool to does not have four wheels and needs to be chased down. That is the one big problem with tools bought off a tool truck. You either need to work for a garage or a dealer or no know someone that has a garage to get warranty service. If you are one of those guys that do not have that option, getting a tool warrantied could become a problem. But if you walk into a AutoZone or Sears or even harbor freight, you most likely will not have any trouble.

Don't get me wrong but I have ran into this problem since I no longer work for an engine shop or know anyone who has access to one of these tool truck dealers. I have a collection of snap on and Matco and even some Cornwell ratchets as well as wrenches. Because I am not a regular customer I have had problems getting some tools warrantied because I am not a regular anymore.

 

[stricht8]

Thank you. Finally some logic.

How much does the regular 3/8 drive duralast ratchet cost?
I'm guessing about 20$ (some one correct me if I'm wrong)

(putting flame suit on)

Rather then buy a tool that is constantly changing design/make, Why not just go on ebay or even the classified here and get either a nice used S-K 45170 (for instance, many others are reasonable too) or a new Williams "Snap-on 936" clone? The Williams, last I looked, go around 25$, and the S-K's 10$ to 15$ for a nice looking one.

Not looking to start something, but it seems like it isnt worth the headache worrying over a import tool thats changing design (often?). I mean the S-K Pro's have not changed much at all since the '30's.



I'll shut up now.

 

[plinker]

Personally, you couldn't pay me to use that SK ratchet or the wright listed earlier in this **** fest of a thread. I hate round head ratchets, Neither have any features I like in a ratchet.

My Duralast ratchets have everything I like in a ratchet, and have a warranty that is available in any direction I may travel. They are better, stronger and cheaper then any craftsman, Kobalt, husky,NAPA etc or any other locally available ratchet. I would 1000 to 1 rather have my Duralast then the SK, RH Williams, or wright ratchet posted in this thread.

As for the sealed head Williams, I have a few and they are basically the same exact ratchet as the duralast with a higher price tag, less desirable handle and a hard to obtain warranty. And not everyone needs Snap-on.


The Duralast ratchet has been the same since 2003 when Duralast hand tools first came out. They are still available and will be for some time. At the beginning of 2011, AZ discontinued most of the great neck tools and introduced a whole new line of cheaper duralast sets. All of the old duralast ratchets and wrenches are the same and will continue to be so. Only the sockets have changed. I will say this again, ONLY THE SETS HAVE A DIFFERENT RATCHET, THE "GOOD" DURALAST RATCHET IS STILL AVAILABLE AT ALL YOUR LOCAL AZ STORES AND IS NOT BEING DISCONTINUED.

I skimmed through the thread a little so I probably missed some of what you typed in bold that was from earlier.

To each thier own, I prefer the S-K's myself, but I know not every one does. Depends on what your used to using.

I would not say the duralast is better per say then the Danaher 60 tooth ratchets (C-man thin pro, some Napa, plus Gearwrench) as they are 60 tooth, but I'll agree they run a little higher money wise (they are worth it though, IMO).

As for the Williams sealed ratchet's, I guess it depend's on personal preference as well.

I dont have a local Auto zone, so If I did have a warranty issue I'd need to travel an hour. I have to do that with any Craftsman stuff that breaks, so it's all a wash for me.

YMMV and all that.

 

[stricht8]

it's not hard to get a tool warrantied from a tool truck. I don't work at a shop, tool trucks don't stop by my house. I call up the dealer, ask him where he is and then I go meet him. It's very easy! Sometimes he meets me at a location that serves me better. I've been doing this with SO, MAC and Matco. I've never been denied a replacement tool either.

As for warranty goes. It is nice to know that the place you need to take a broken tool to does not have four wheels and needs to be chased down. That is the one big problem with tools bought off a tool truck. You either need to work for a garage or a dealer or no know someone that has a garage to get warranty service. If you are one of those guys that do not have that option, getting a tool warrantied could become a problem. But if you walk into a AutoZone or Sears or even harbor freight, you most likely will not have any trouble.

Don't get me wrong but I have ran into this problem since I no longer work for an engine shop or know anyone who has access to one of these tool truck dealers. I have a collection of snap on and Matco and even some Cornwell ratchets as well as wrenches. Because I am not a regular customer I have had problems getting some tools warrantied because I am not a regular anymore.

 

[RangerDaleXp]

it's not hard to get a tool warrantied from a tool truck. I don't work at a shop, tool trucks don't stop by my house. I call up the dealer, ask him where he is and then I go meet him. It's very easy! Sometimes he meets me at a location that serves me better. I've been doing this with SO, MAC and Matco. I've never been denied a replacement tool either.

It would pretty much depend on the dealer. Some dealers are good and some are bad. The few I have dealt with would barely give you the time of day.

As for some of the other brands, you better hope there is a dealer near you or you'll have to pay for shipping to send it to the manufacture. Even though I agree that these companies make very good tools, I have to look at how hard it is to get them warrantied. In fact when I know I am going to push a tool really hard I tend to go with something I know I can get warrantied nearby other than risk my snap on or Matco ratchets or wrenches because I do not want to deal with chasing a truck down and hoping they will cover.

 

[shoturtle]

It not hard, but it is not as convenient. If I break something, can drop by a sears anytime I choose to. The trucks sometime are not in the area, and it could be couple of days before you can meet up. If you use a tool regularly, you need to have a backup till you can get a replacement. I know the SO and Matco truck that cater to my area, they make their rounds once a week only. And I have to go to the local pep boys to meet them.

 

[RangerDaleXp]

Anyway I do need to mention I do not have any of these Duralast ratchets but I have looked them over. I have not purchased any because I have no room in my ratchet drawer for any more ratchets. If I had room I would consider them. The last set of ratchets I bought was the harbor freight composite ratchets and have to say I like them a lot. They have become my go to ratchet. They are extremely comfortable to use and very smooth. I was very leery about them but so far I have not broken one.

 

[Thumper]

Damn.........who cut the cheese...?

Studies have proven that 42.7% of the people think that 67.3% of facts are ********....and 78.2% think that 98.9% of the people could give a ****....so now....the great Duralast pissin match rages on.....whiz away boys..

 

[stricht8]

Anyway I do need to mention I do not have any of these Duralast ratchets but I have looked them over. I have not purchased any because I have no room in my ratchet drawer for any more ratchets. If I had room I would consider them. The last set of ratchets I bought was the harbor freight composite ratchets and have to say I like them a lot. They have become my go to ratchet. They are extremely comfortable to use and very smooth. I was very leery about them but so far I have not broken one.

I own the 3/8" drive flex head. It is a well built and tough tool. Emphasis on tough. I keep it in my road box and it has served me well especially when I visit friends to help them with a car repair or when I go junkyarding. I will however never put it in my ratchet drawer!

 

[stricht8]

Damn.........who cut the cheese...?

Studies have proven that 42.7% of the people think that 67.3% of facts are ********....and 78.2% think that 98.9% of the people could give a ****....so now....the great Duralast pissin match rages on.....whiz away boys..

dunno but crappycivic smelt it.

 

[Gtamazing]

 

[stricht8]

'bout sums it up.

 

[Butters]

I think people need to be a little more tolerant of others' tool choices. How one values a ratchet varies from person to person. Some factors are are more important to others.

Some people have a tool truck nearby. Some don't .
Some people like going to flea markets and garage sales. Some don't.
Some people have a Sears or Autozone or whatever nearby. Some don't.
Some people like buying online while others want to feel the tool in their hand.

Nothing wrong with having an opinion about Tool A over Tool B. But to assume Tool A is better than Tool B for somebody else is pretty arrogant. I think suggestions are appreciated by most, directives sound a bit douchey.

I own one Duralast ratchet. Nothing wrong with it, even pretty decent. But I don't find anything about remarkable either. But I can see the appeal if you have Autozones nearby are like to actually handle what you buy first.

 

[RangerDaleXp]

I think people need to be a little more tolerant of others' tool choices. How one values a ratchet varies from person to person. Some factors are are more important to others.

Some people have a tool truck nearby. Some don't .
Some people like going to flea markets and garage sales. Some don't.
Some people have a Sears or Autozone or whatever nearby. Some don't.
Some people like buying online while others want to feel the tool in their hand.

Nothing wrong with having an opinion about Tool A over Tool B. But to assume Tool A is better than Tool B for somebody else is pretty arrogant. I think suggestions are appreciated by most, directives sound a bit douchey.

I own one Duralast ratchet. Nothing wrong with it, even pretty decent. But I don't find anything about remarkable either. But I can see the appeal if you have Autozones nearby are like to actually handle what you buy first.

Perfectly Said

 

[Gtamazing]

 

[RangerDaleXp]

Nice Photo Shop Work But completely inaccurate....

 

[sk farmer]

 

[Altec]

Nice Photo Shop Work But completely inaccurate....

I think Holeshots review would beg to differ. That is kinda what started a pretty big stink.

 

[Crappycivic]

dunno but crappycivic smelt it.

I love smelling cut cheese! The stinker the better

 

[RangerDaleXp]

I think Holeshots review would beg to differ. That is kinda what started a pretty big stink.

If holeshot told you to play on the freeway would you do it? I take every review with a grain of salt and make my own judgements from a majority and not from one person......

 

[Altec]

If holeshot told you to play on the freeway would you do it? I take every review with a grain of salt and make my own judgements from a majority and not from one person......

Well, he does seem pretty on the ball...Scooter...

You can look for yourself. the pictures say it all.

 

[stricht8]

I think Holeshots review would beg to differ. That is kinda what started a pretty big stink.

Yup holeshot extensively analyzed this ratchet. It is a SO 936 clone and a damn good one! Where is holeshot anyway?

 

[stricht8]

I love smelling cut cheese! The stinker the better

So do you have one of those special cheese knives? Is is made by a master Japanese sword maker?

 

[gtlaw]

the funniest part of this thread is the reference to left, and right with a sideways photo

 

[Case]

i just spit out my rum and coke all over my keyboard

 

[RangerDaleXp]

Well, he does seem pretty on the ball...Scooter...

You can look for yourself. the pictures say it all.

By the way my name is not scooter. I am sure he is on the ball but it is his opinion and not fact.

Here is an example, I always read and hear reviews about movies and If I made my choices from these reviewers I would have missed some really good movies. Just because that reviewer said a move is bad doesn't always mean a movie is bad. I know this example is not tool related but it is relevant to a review.

I am sure he has good information and I do take it into consideration but I do not make a final decision based on it......

 

[Altec]

Lol, i wasn't calling you scooter, but that is pretty funny! It is a reference to Holeshot. Stick around, GJ may learn why.

But, you still don't understand. Unless Holeshot Super imposed a picture of Snap-on internals on a Duralast ratchet, the duralast is a clone of the Snap-on. Bottom line.

 

[Ritter4.0]

I'm just gonna put this here.........

I have plenty of Duralast ratchets, and screwdrivers. I like them for the fact that I can cut, grind, and destroy them and not worry. I have 4 Autozones close by, I pass at least 1 of them pretty everyday driving to and from work and class.

 

[stricht8]

By the way my name is not scooter. I am sure he is on the ball but it is his opinion and not fact.

Here is an example, I always read and hear reviews about movies and If I made my choices from these reviewers I would have missed some really good movies. Just because that reviewer said a move is bad doesn't always mean a movie is bad. I know this example is not tool related but it is relevant to a review.

I am sure he has good information and I do take it into consideration but I do not make a final decision based on it......

Have you read his review? It really is a clone. This is not a matter of opinion. Look at the pics! BTW it is pretty well known that the Asians have mastered the art of cloning so this shouldn't come as a surprise.

 

[stricht8]

Did you make a composite ratchet?

I'm just gonna put this here.........

I have plenty of Duralast ratchets, and screwdrivers. I like them for the fact that I can cut, grind, and destroy them and not worry. I have 4 Autozones close by, I pass at least 1 of them pretty everyday driving to and from work and class.