dust deputy attached to dust extractor - implosion possible?

[makemake]

Hello,
I have a dust extractor (not fien) with a very small dust bag/filter .I want to attach a Dust Deputy 2.5 to help increase my bag/filter capacity. I have been told that 80mil buckets are too thin, and that 100mil buckets are preferred. I am wondering if this applies to dust extractors too because of the higher static pressure (~100in) versus a standard wet dry vacuum ~(60 in).

has anybody used a dust extractor with the dust deputy successfully ( using 100 mil bucket).
thanks

 

[larry4406]

I have used a Dust Deputy attached to the lid of a standard 5 gallon bucket. I don't know the wall thickness of the bucket.

Yes the bucket side walls would implode some but not enough to prevent useful separation.

 

[Jackfre]

I have the original DD that came with a steel barrel. It has worked really well when I use it. As to your bucket question I guess it will depend both upon how strong your extractor is and the bucket used. Try it. The worst happens you are out a bucket.

 

[makemake]

I have the original DD that came with a steel barrel. It has worked really well when I use it. As to your bucket question I guess it will depend both upon how strong your extractor is and the bucket used. Try it. The worst happens you are out a bucket.

extractor is about 100 inches suction. I want to get this right the first time.Also I would think that any deformation would reduce section. I don't know for sure.

 

[Jackfre]

To maximize its performance keep the hose lengths as short as you can. If that is inconvenient you can run the longer length and see how it does and cut as necessary. Rockler have quick connects and their blue flex hose is excellent. Connecting thes things can be a giant PITN.

 

[makemake]

My concern is the bucket imploding due to the higher section from an extractor versus the standard shop vac. the hose length thing is sorted

 

[American Locomotive]

I flipped through the manual from their website, and they recommend a 90 mil minimum thickness bucket. I'd tend to go with what the manufacturer recommends.

 

[no704]

Stack 2 buckets. Never get them apart again.

 

[dscheidt]

My dust deputy is on a rubbermaid 10 gallon trashcan and lid, much thinner and more flexible than a standard five gallon bucket. When I first tried to use it, it collapsed. I took a circular scrap of plywood that matched the insdie diameter about halfway down, put legs on it so it's free standing, and put it inside. the can collapses a tiny bit, then the reinforcement stops it. The scrap i had already had a center hole, I added some more, so debris can fall to the bottom of the barrel. Works fine, but I need to redo the gasket between the lid and barrel, the glue I tried didn't work well.

 

[makemake]

collapses a tiny bit, then the reinforcement stops it. The scrap i had already had a center hole, I added some more, so debris can fall to the bottom o

out ofCuriosity, are you using an extractor with this?

 

[johnre]

By design, spiral ductwork can withstand the normal static pressure of a dust collector when all of the blast gates are closed. I would think a short section of 12" spiral, along with two end caps, would serve you well as a collection bin.

 

[dnschmidt]

Just buy the metal Dust Deputy, which they still sell and which is what I have, problem solved.

 

[whitesco]

Not sure I would call it an implosion, but I use a dust deputy with a 6HP Craftsman wet/dry and a run-of-the-mill Home Depot orange 5 gallon bucket. The sides did collapse a bit but I cut a ring out of some scrap sheet goods to use temporarily until I get a better bucket. Works fine for now.

 

[dscheidt]

out ofCuriosity, are you using an extractor with this?

just a large shop vac. No idea what the static pressure it can produce is, other than 'high by the standards of shop vacs'.

 

[Steve_P]

Just buy the metal Dust Deputy, which they still sell and which is what I have, problem solved.

Stop being logical!

Otherwise, it seems that two plastic buckets would do the job. I guess you could even use construction adhesive to glue them together to maximize the stiffness.

 

[makemake]

Not sure I would call it an implosion, but I use a dust deputy with a 6HP Craftsman wet/dry and a run-of-the-mill Home Depot orange 5 gallon bucket. The sides did collapse a bit but I cut a ring out of some scrap sheet goods to use temporarily until I get a better bucket. Works fine for now.

This is probably the best method for me specifically. I wanted to ask is the ring on the inside? And this is a tough one but does it impede the airflow To have a ring on the inside? my gut would be to put it on the outside with screws but I don't know if that matters.Outside would probably provide better margin of error I would think

 

[oldmachinenut]

I have my metal Dust Deputy on one of these. It is very heavy HDPE and a 5 gallon plastic bucket fits inside for easy chip clean out.

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[whitesco]

This is probably the best method for me specifically. I wanted to ask is the ring on the inside? And this is a tough one but does it impede the airflow To have a ring on the inside? my gut would be to put it on the outside with screws but I don't know if that matters.Outside would probably provide better margin of error I would think

I put it on the inside... I just traced the top and bottom of the bucket, then cut halfway between those marks. It wasn't pretty but it seems to work. I don't think it affects airflow because it's down in the bucket... most the airflow is through the deputy I believe. It's the lack of it + gravity that lets stuff fall into the bucket.

Full disclosure - I haven't emptied it yet with the ring in there but it's just shoved down in there so easy enough to remove if I need to.

It was a quick fix - I'll get a sturdier container at some point!