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Wow, a lot has changed only w/in 2yrs. Awesome tools. I really dig the automation stuff. Do you sleep?
 
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Thanks. That was the last piece needed, I hope, for parts order to build a prototype with a single 4" and 6" gate.
Decided to try Automation Direct's Click PLC. Besides being cheaper than Direct Logic 06, the software for it is free. The Direct Logic software is $395.
I already had experience with the Direct Logic PLC's so I found one on ebay cheap and ran with it. Let me know how the AD PLC works out for you!

Pneumatically controlled gates? EPIC...what have I been missing on this thread...must revisit...

Wow, a lot has changed only w/in 2yrs. Awesome tools. I really dig the automation stuff. Do you sleep?

Thanks for checking out the shop and taking the time to comment guys! Looking like I'll have time to make some good progress on the dust collection system in the next week.
 
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Security cameras have been on my mind for way too long. Finally getting to putting the stuff together. These Hikvision cameras and mounts look nice and seem to be of good quality for the price. Lots of conduit to run.

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Been working on the dust collection automation. Made these 4 square box covers for the router table I/O. This will allow the table to be unplugged should the need arise.

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Starting to get the camera system sorted out. Looks like it’s pretty good stuff.

The first router table is finished for now. I’ll make the small drawer fronts when the table saw is up and running. That’s what is next. Fully automated dust gates on these two routers is working really well.

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Now it’s all buttoned up. Loaded with router bits and ready to go to work!

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They are not "adjustable". There's five or so parts for each spacing that have to be changed out. And you have to time both hooks after they are moved. Looks like a good machine. I highly recommend a positioner motor. They are no more money and a huge time saver!

I'd beat him up on price and start at $300.. The machine is worth every bit of a grand though!


Which servo motor and positioner is your favorite? Can you disable the positioner if you don't like it? I'm about to order a Juki LU-1508NS and still need to pick the motor for it. I have a Family FESM-550S on a Juki DDL-5550N. That motor works fine but a positioner might be fun to try on the new machine.
 
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I have Ho Hsing motors on four machines. I am very happy with them. They aren’t the cheapest, but they are great motors.

I’m not familiar with a LU-1508NS. Do you mean LU-1508NH?

The positioner motors are a game changer. I have also used the Mitsubishi (quite expensive) and the budget priced motors. They have all done the job.

Without the positioner plugged in the motors I have work like any other motor.
 

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1508NS is what Juki is now calling the 1508N. My guess is when they added the safety clutch to the 1541 (making the 1541S), they added the S to the 1508N name for consistency. The 1508N already had the safety clutch.
 

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My current walking foot is a Sailrite LSZ-1.The 1508N will be such a huge improvement over it that I never really though much about going even heavier. I've sewn for a few years, but never any upholstery. The new machine will be for both furniture and auto upholstery projects I have in mind. What do you see as the primary advantage of the H? I did look at the LU-2810 with the longer arm. At Keystone, the 1508NH and the 2810 are very close in price, so if I were to step up to H money I would be tempted to get the 2810 instead. My only problem with the 2810 is they are made in China vs Japan for the 1508 machines.
 
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The 2810 is a far superior machine in my opinion. I bought mine from Gregg at Keystone and highly recommend him. I have the A-7 machine which has the auto backtack, thread trimmer and several other really nice features. It is a more expensive machine though. The high-step feature alone is worth it to me. The dual thread length and tensions are also nice to have. Buy once, cry once.. As far as the made in China thing goes, Juki makes very high quality machines.. in China and Japan.
 

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Starting to get the camera system sorted out. Looks like it’s pretty good stuff.

The first router table is finished for now. I’ll make the small drawer fronts when the table saw is up and running. That’s what is next. Fully automated dust gates on these two routers is working really well.

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Looking good! What are you using to detect when a router or other machine is turned on?
 
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Looking good! What are you using to detect when a router or other machine is turned on?


120v tools are using 2 pole switches. Second pole is PLC input. 240v tools are using a current sensor on the power lead. There are several options for the current switch. I have two on hand to figure this out - CR Magnetics CR9321-PNP and Veris Hawkeye 608.
 
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Continuing the automation project. This is a 240v receptacle for the 20” Delta bandsaw. Top receptacle is not switched, always on. Bottom is switched by the switch to the left. It’s a 3 pole switch. Third pole is PLC input, letting PLC know this machine is running. At some point I’ll have dust collection plumbed to this machine with a pneumatic gate.

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I couldn't read the part number, but going by the picture, the Moeller website says that switch is also considered a disconnect. If so, is that sufficient to protect equipment from storm/lightning related electrical surges when turned off? I usually unplug my equipment at night but that really is a pain.
 
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Yes, it is a 3 pole disconnect. In this case, 2 poles for the 240v to the machine, third pole is switching the PLC input. It is a disconnect, not a surge suppressor. If the load is disconnected from the panel, there's no path for the "surge" you are speaking of. I do high voltage protection and relaying for a living at my day job. If you are truly concerned about surges/lightning, a TVSS (transient voltage surge suppressor) may be something you want to look at. This isn't something I am concerned with.
 

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I looked at disconnects before but they had a warning not to switch off under load because they could arc. I didn't know switches like this Moeller existed.


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For anyone following the dust collection automation, this may be of interest..

The CR magnetics current switch I planned on using didn’t develop enough output voltage for the loads I’m dealing with. So, I switched them out for a different device I bought last year when I was sorting out my design.

The device I’m using is a Veriz Industries Hawkeye H608 split-core current switch with adjustable trip point. Works great even on a very low current load.

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I do high voltage protection and relaying for a living at my day job.


Do you work in distribution or generation?

I work with up to 34.5kv gear. Fun stuff, always keeps you on your toes. Working with controls all day, I’m always dreaming of ways to incorporate it into my shop, house, everything...

Nice shop, I’ll need to catch up.
 
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Do you work in distribution or generation?

I work with up to 34.5kv gear. Fun stuff, always keeps you on your toes. Working with controls all day, I’m always dreaming of ways to incorporate it into my shop, house, everything...

Nice shop, I’ll need to catch up.


I’ve done everything from medium voltage metal clad switchgear up to 525kV transmission. My day job is huge hydro generation... 815MW units. We do protection, unit and auxiliary controls and a lot of support stuff.. cranes.

It has been a ton of fun applying what I’ve learned in my day job in the shop build out!

Most people have no idea what I do for a living!
 

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I know the feeling!

I would love to get an inside view of a hydro plant. I work at a steel mill with electric furnaces. The one on my side of the road humms along at 43Mw. Site incoming is 345Kv and I love the sound it makes when we’re running full tilt. Seems to scare everyone else though [emoji38]








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I know the feeling!

I would love to get an inside view of a hydro plant. I work at a steel mill with electric furnaces. The one on my side of the road humms along at 43Mw. Site incoming is 345Kv and I love the sound it makes when we’re running full tilt. Seems to scare everyone else though [emoji38]


I have about 4500MW of generation. It’s fun!


Hi Steven. My apologies.....no intent to hijack your thread. Please remove the pics if you like. See ya in a few days.

Pat


No way! I had typed a response in Tapatalk and I just realized it didn’t post. The wagon is looking great!!
 
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Dust automation wiring is coming along. The woodshop tools are wired into the PLC and the tool connections are also done.

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Dust automation wiring is coming along. The woodshop tools are wired into the PLC and the tool connections are also done.

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Really dude! Panduit?

I've been reading along and wondering weather I should chime in?

Worked for your basic federal agency, updating the high voltage substations. Mostly panel wiring on indoor control, relays and the like.

Panduit was frowned upon. The old guys did square stacked wiring using solid copper wire with a woven asbestos covering. They used scrap chunks to fill out a square or rectangular wire run. Wires drop out of a bundle in the order they're landed and are bent at 90* out away from the panel face and then again at 90* to the device's terminal.

Kinda **** :beer:

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I have no problem (re)using Panduit in this panel. It works. Allows for easy changes as the shop changes over time.

I learned the basics of the Navy’s style of waxed string wire tying. It looks cool, but is a ton of time to do properly. Most modern substations are using some form of Panduit style wire management. Anyway..
 
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There are wire securing details that should be required, and then there are some that are not. Much of it depends on the environment it is installed in.

Panduit is accepted in a wire variety of environments and a garage definitely falls within, IMO. Not a big deal.

Anywho, slodat, because of you I've located and purchased an 8-pole mechanically held contactor via eBay. It's a perfect solution to my 3-way 240v lighting project and of course offers other benefits you've laid out in your thread.

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I’ve done everything from medium voltage metal clad switchgear up to 525kV transmission. My day job is huge hydro generation... 815MW units. We do protection, unit and auxiliary controls and a lot of support stuff.. cranes.

It has been a ton of fun applying what I’ve learned in my day job in the shop build out!

Most people have no idea what I do for a living!

Do you work in distribution or generation?

I work with up to 34.5kv gear. Fun stuff, always keeps you on your toes. Working with controls all day, I’m always dreaming of ways to incorporate it into my shop, house, everything...

Nice shop, I’ll need to catch up.

I know the feeling!

I would love to get an inside view of a hydro plant. I work at a steel mill with electric furnaces. The one on my side of the road humms along at 43Mw. Site incoming is 345Kv and I love the sound it makes when we’re running full tilt. Seems to scare everyone else though [emoji38]

I started my career supporting standard electrical products and industrial controls for a major manufacturer in Milwaukee. Then moved into outside sales for industrial controls, sensors, and automation. Now I sell fluid power components and systems. We have a lot of coal fired power plants and primary metals here, but I did get to northern Indiana and got to go up in a wind turbine. That was so cool. And the steam turbine rooms at the power plants are wild. They are so quiet. Very eery when everything else is so loud.

Several years back my old sales office sent me all the obsolete sales demo equipment they had in the storage room when the new DM said to clear it out. I gave away a ton of of stuff to friends but kept the VFDs, SSRs, push buttons, and other goodies that I knew I could use. Also had a friend that owns a controls distributorship in Minneapolis send me a bunch of RTDs and Watlow SLCs. So I have the parts to make my curing oven. :thumbup:

I enjoy your thread and the power generation discussions. Brings back fun memories.
 
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I started my career supporting standard electrical products and industrial controls for a major manufacturer in Milwaukee. Then moved into outside sales for industrial controls, sensors, and automation. Now I sell fluid power components and systems. We have a lot of coal fired power plants and primary metals here, but I did get to northern Indiana and got to go up in a wind turbine. That was so cool. And the steam turbine rooms at the power plants are wild. They are so quiet. Very eery when everything else is so loud.

Several years back my old sales office sent me all the obsolete sales demo equipment they had in the storage room when the new DM said to clear it out. I gave away a ton of of stuff to friends but kept the VFDs, SSRs, push buttons, and other goodies that I knew I could use. Also had a friend that owns a controls distributorship in Minneapolis send me a bunch of RTDs and Watlow SLCs. So I have the parts to make my curing oven. :thumbup:

I enjoy your thread and the power generation discussions. Brings back fun memories.

I always get a kick out of it when people know what my day job entails! Thanks for taking the time to comment! Those old parts are so nice to have around! I get most of mine on ebay.
 

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Well FINALLY!!!!!!!!
The Nova is ready for the upholstery shop. I will be loading her up in the enclosed trailer and transporting it about 100 miles so Steven can work his magic. Hopefully the road conditions won't be too bad. It was snowing this morning but only got about an inch. After Steven is finished I will install the windshield and the hood.
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