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I'm not looking to spend $2-300 on a set, but up to $150 for a good set is worth it. What do you guys recommend?
I found a nice Irwin Industrial 35 piece set for $125. Then I saw a Snap On that looked almost exactly the same, for 3X the price. Can anyone confirm whether or not they are the same? Its amazing what a company logo can do to the price. I will try to include links to show you what I mean. Thanks, Glenn

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EEX644/?tag=atomicindus08-20

https://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?item_ID=641428&group_ID=675450

And look at this now ----> http://www.vehicleservicepros.com/product/10924306/mac-tools-35-pc-master-extractor-set-no-35lhdes

And of course -----> http://www.matcotools.com/catalog/product/MEX35/35-piece-master-extractor-set/
 
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id go with proto style
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Anyone ever hear of Drill Hog? I found them on Ebay. They seem to have fair prices, made in USA, with lifetime warranty.
 
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trackwelder, those are straight flutes? I've heard good things about the Ridgid sets. So you drill it out with the left hand bits, then insert the straight flutes and slide the double nuts onto the shaft to grip onto? Is that how it works? What are the other pieces across the bottom?
 
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I found an Irwin/Hanson 35 piece set for a really good price. It is identical to the Snap on, Mac and Matco 35 piece sets, but for 1/3rd the cost. I never considered the tapered flutes spreading the bolt apart making it tighter. So, I was thinking of buying the Irwin set mentioned, then ordering the Rennsteig Dual-edged (Easy Out) Screw Extractors 5-piece Set to replace the spriral flutes.
 
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gdocktor3 said:
trackwelder, those are straight flutes? I've heard good things about the Ridgid sets. So you drill it out with the left hand bits, then insert the straight flutes and slide the double nuts onto the shaft to grip onto? Is that how it works? What are the other pieces across the bottom?
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I have the Blue Point set and will be selling it (I just got the Ridged master set that includes all the pieces in the smaller set)...PM me if interested.

This set... https://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/ite...roup_ID=675450&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog
 
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I'd order the 25 piece Irwin extractor set on ebay for about $55. Irwin makes the extractors for Snap On and the other truck brands, and they are identical.

I have the Cornwell set, again identical to the Irwin.

But, the extractors that I believe work the absolute best are the lisle straight extractors: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/LIS0/62900.oap?pt=N0673

The lisle are limited in the sizes, but they do not expand the bolt. Even the spiral cut irwins seem to expand the bolt slightly.

I've given up on using the Proto square extractors, or the spiral tapered ones like VA makes. They expand the bolt and make it grip tighter. The Irwin spiral splined ones or the Lisle ones work much better.
 
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The spiral easy outs are worthless,overexpand the broken off bolt after drilling the bolt out making it harder to remove the broken off bolt.The straight flutes don't do this at all.
 
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gdocktor3 said:
trackwelder, those are straight flutes? I've heard good things about the Ridgid sets. So you drill it out with the left hand bits, then insert the straight flutes and slide the double nuts onto the shaft to grip onto? Is that how it works? What are the other pieces across the bottom?
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The kit I have has right hand bits. Yes you would install the fluted extractor and the nut type part which has the same flutes inside to slide anywhere along the extractor. The pieces on the the bottom are the drill guides. They are real hand for drill center and straight. I have used the guides at times to insure drill of straight holes prior to tapping holes.
 
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Might want to add left hand drill bits to your arsenal.
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X2 on this. I have good luck with the bit grabbing and spinning the remains out. Especially on fasteners that have broken in use and not because of corrosion. I know some of the kits out there offer a choice of right or left hand bits in the kit.

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I do not own a kit persay however, I do have left hand bits in numbered sizes 45,40,35,30,27,21,16,10,1 along with spirals , tapered square, 3/8ths lathe bit ground to a pont on 4 sides, screw chisel, johnson bar and old man if I can weld a nut on or back the bolt out before it shears. All told probably 40 bucks in pieces parts. I can count on one hand how many bolts I was not able to get out using a combination of the above.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200451723_200451723

http://www.browntool.com/Default.aspx?tabid=344&CategoryID=278&Level=a&ProductID=1719 ( You can make this yourself)

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-5-pc...p-00952315000P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-10-p...p-00966196000P?prdNo=4&blockNo=4&blockType=G4



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It was noted several times in the other thread, but how close to center your hole is is critical. Every minute you spend making sure the hole is centered saves an hour of aggravation, at least it seems that way.

I've had good luck with the left hand drill bits. Ever since I've gotten them, I've not needed to use any kind of extractor, all my broken bolts have come out just from drilling.
 
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MikeF2316 said:
It was noted several times in the other thread, but how close to center your hole is is critical. Every minute you spend making sure the hole is centered saves an hour of aggravation, at least it seems that way.

I've had good luck with the left hand drill bits. Ever since I've gotten them, I've not needed to use any kind of extractor, all my broken bolts have come out just from drilling.
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Funny how things go. I bought a set of left hand bits and not once did they ever grab the bolt and twist it out. Most of the fasteners I deal with are rusted. I like to weld a washer and bolt on when I can.
 
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trackwelder said:
Funny how things go. I bought a set of left hand bits and not once did they ever grab the bolt and twist it out. Most of the fasteners I deal with are rusted. I like to weld a washer and bolt on when I can.
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I think one of the things with the left handed bits is where and what you are using them for. If your mechanic'ing on vehicles in the salted snow country then your facing a different job than those of us who do not work on corroded rigs or those of us who come from a factory maintenance position where things are clean and nice.

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