EK'S TOOL FINDS AND I.D. HELP!!! (an ongoing sub-forum)

[ekegelmann]

No I'm not actually aware on how you get the copper out and I do know the price of copper. When you live near Detroit and it's the main stolen item around its on the news daily.

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[Fretters]

Copper is only worth around 2/3 of what it was a year or two ago. Over here, anyway. Besides, stripping that and weighing the copper in would be criminal. Ruining a good piece of equipment for the sake of a few quid is pointless.

 

[ekegelmann]

Copper is only worth around 2/3 of what it was a year or two ago. Over here, anyway. Besides, stripping that and weighing the copper in would be criminal. Ruining a good piece of equipment for the sake of a few quid is pointless.

Exactly I would never do that. I'm just pointing out how it is in this area. People would drool over it for that purpose. Sad.

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[four.cycle]

Ruining a good piece of equipment for the sake of a few quid is pointless.

obviously you're not one of those smoking meth.
they ripped all the wiring out of the Morgan-Murray bridge here down on 11th Street - the structure that used to grace the Seal of the City of Tacoma - cost the City big bucks to get it fixed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Morgan_Bridge

EK - I've got a little box like that (with the hinge on the end) but mine is stamped "Stevens-Walden".
no idea who/what "Tomahawk" was or if there was any connection.

 

[ekegelmann]

Yes it might, as far as I can tell the Tomahawk was a wrench set made by Walden for Automobile sets in the teens and twenties. Wondering if anyone can confirm.

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[woody 73]

Ask a question get an answer...
trademark-
06/01/14 first used.
Signed off by none other then Warren S. Bellows

So you ask, just who is Warren S. Bellows? Find my name hit stats go down about 5 or 6 pages and see my post for a more in depth case study.

 

[drivesitfar]

Woody: i'm not totally sure what your post means. you have something about this guy in your profile? or do tell or provide a link??

LesserSon: nice post and WELL SAID

 

[ekegelmann]

Woody: i'm not totally sure what your post means. you have something about this guy in your profile? or do tell or provide a link??

LesserSon: nice post and WELL SAID

Yea confused?

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[woody 73]

Sorry my wife has some funky new computer program and I am trying to learn several new steps.

Ok lets see if this helps: AA under Walden posts the first date of Tomahawk and that Warren signed off which make perfect sense...

So the link I forgot to give you guys is below:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271348

 

[drivesitfar]

Woody: sorry to keep bugging you, but i was curious and clicked on your thread and the first two links went nowhere and the third one had 10 patents on wrenches.

aren't we talking about a welder?

 

[ekegelmann]

Any idea on what this motor went on? I don't understand the HP? Thoughts?

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[countryroad82]

Probably a fan of some sort, or something that needs to spin fast due to the rpm. HP doesn't make sense to me either.

 

[ekegelmann]

Just came across this old Craftsman tool. Can anyone tell me what they are for or used for? No part or tool number....

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[r_olson_06]

Brake springs pliers

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[ekegelmann]

Brake springs pliers

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Ask and seconds later an answer. Thank u sir

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[ekegelmann]

Is the piece on the back end broken off or was this made that way? Or is there an attachment to keep the spring clip held in etc.

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[r_olson_06]

I think it suppose to be that way buy I am not 100% sure

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[four.cycle]

some (not all) of that type of brake spring plier had a little widget at the bottom end of one of the handles for holding (or compressing?) one of the brake springs, and because of its design a lot of them are snapped off.

here are two examples of a # 3428 Indestro currently listed on Ebay. the first one is broken. the second one still has the little springie thingie intact on the end of the handle:

broken:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-CAR...103240?hash=item3d11691088:g:EQEAAOxyeZNTSWWa

still okay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-IND...914731?hash=item51dd493a2b:g:wyUAAOSwHPlWb3ul

 

[r_olson_06]

Any idea on what this motor went on? I don't understand the HP? Thoughts?

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Never seen that on HP rating. It definitely special purpose as the direction can't not be reversed. The rpm of 3400 is very typical with a pump or a fan. Hope this would help

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[ekegelmann]

Can anyone tell me what companies logo this is and the proper name for these is? Thanks!

 

[ekegelmann]

still trying to figure out the hp on that motor. I may go to the smokstak forum on that one...

 

[ekegelmann]

how about these? they say mac bd 1 and bd 2. Anyone know what these are?

 

[Bdgjr215]

Look like stepped bushing drivers

 

[ekegelmann]

Yea I think they're from the 30s. For brakes.

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[ekegelmann]

I think it's a $10. or less plane.

Ended up getting $24.50 for it, not bad for a doorstop really. lol

 

[crguy]

Ended up getting $24.50 for it, not bad for a doorstop really. lol

Congratulations - you found a sucker on Ebay that didn't look closely at your pictures. He depended on your description to disclose defects in the plane - which you didn't do.

In the plane collecting world we expect sellers to disclose defects and clearly show them in the pictures. Your plane had a broken handle and 2 chunks broken out of the left siderail - which you were well aware of.

Maybe when the buyer finds out, you'll get another negative.

 

[Cruzan80]

Or someone didn't know the going rate for them, liked what he saw, or anything else. Not sure why you are jumping on him for not disclosing what it was about. At some point, the responsibility in inspection comes from the buyer, not seller (I deal with this a lot when both buying and selling camera gear).

 

[crguy]

Not sure why you are jumping on him for not disclosing what it was about.

I consider an indication of honesty - and that determines whether it's a seller I'll consider buying from, or not.

 

[four.cycle]

^ Requiring Ebay sellers to make full disclosure and give accurate descriptions of the items they're selling would probably disqualify about 80% of them - I've seen Pittsburgh socket sets listed as "rare vintage".

Sorry, but the standing rule on Ebay is Caveat emptor - it is the buyer's responsibility to look first and ask questions and make the effort to determine the actual value of the item before making a commitment to buy.

If honesty were a requirement in sales, there never would have been a Pontiac.

 

[woody 73]

I have not been following this whole post but whenever I sell something I am 100% honest upfront; I never want someone coming back at me in anger; I might also point out that if someone is upfront with me they will always get me coming back for more buying trips.

I do not use E-bay but I understand the bad rating system wish they had that for some of the sellers on my local CL.

 

[Stuart in MN]

Any idea on what this motor went on? I don't understand the HP? Thoughts?

That stands for 'special'. The motor was built for a specific application, as mentioned earlier possibly a fan or a blower. You'll also often see this on other devices like air compressors.

Going by the voltage and amperage ratings it's about 2hp.

 

[four.cycle]

"...whenever I sell something I am 100% honest upfront; I never want someone coming back at me in anger..."

^ Generally that's the best policy to follow. I do the same with the stuff I peddle on CL.
It should be taken into consideration, however, that there are a LOT of Ebay sellers who simply don't know what it is they're selling - we all can't be experts on everything, after all.

To deliberately misrepresent an item being sold on Ebay will inevitably result in the dreaded "negative feedback", which from my experience most sellers want to avoid.

That said, the buyer is responsible for his own purchasing decisions, not the seller.

(* and in case I need to point it out again: I was a buyer for a chain of retail stores and a warehouse for about 17 years, so I think there's a possibility the above is a "qualified statement".)

 

[Cruzan80]

I am not disagreeing about listing everything you know. What did not seem to come across in your quote of me (and I am not accusing you of anything, just saying I may not have been as clear typing as what I was thinking), is that if he said a "used plane" and had enough pictures for the buyer to see any issues, and/or disclosed anything he knew (not what, in his mind were issues commented on by others which would affect they price they would pay if they would purchase), it could have still been sold for the price he said. It is up to the buyer to decide how much they will spend for what they see. That is why I was surprised you posted such a deriding comment, simply based on the sold price.

For the record, when I sell something I am meticulous about taking multiple pictures of various angles, and commenting on any condition issues (regardless of how small they may seem). However, when buying, I am not surprised when others do not follow the same (and generally those are when I have found the best deals).

I am not commenting about what, or how much disclosure the OP may (or may not) have put into any listing of things he has/is/is going to sell/sold.

 

[ekegelmann]

for the record i posted several photos of the plane. I state to look closely at the photos because that is what you will be receiving. I never mislead a buyer and out of over 1000 sales i have 2 negatives because I didnt wrap some spoons the correct way on one and on another the post office lost the item and I get a negative review even though i returned the money. So.... I don't think im misleading anyone. I started that plane out at 9.99, someone could have paid 9.99, they did not. Thats the chance one takes at auction items on ebay. I generally do fixed price and best offer and accept 99% of offers if they are legit.

 

[ekegelmann]

congratulations - you found a sucker on ebay that didn't look closely at your pictures. He depended on your description to disclose defects in the plane - which you didn't do.

In the plane collecting world we expect sellers to disclose defects and clearly show them in the pictures. Your plane had a broken handle and 2 chunks broken out of the left siderail - which you were well aware of.

Maybe when the buyer finds out, you'll get another negative.

i posted 7 photos. I state to look at the photos because that is the exact item they will recieve. There are close ups of the areas of issue. I stated that this would be more of a parts tool or usable if restored. If i was selling this to the "plane" world they wouldnt be buying it, this was bought by some lady that probably will put it on a mantle and say "wow i have a rustic home".

Let me post another tool you can troll over. Geez.

 

[ekegelmann]

Here is an interesting wrench, anyone ever seen this size? no Maker marks..Ideas? The sizes are interesting with 1 17/32" and 1 27/32" thanks! WEIGHS 6LBS!

 

[four.cycle]

"In the plane collecting world..."

Ebay is not "the plane collecting world". It's a gazillion amateurs peddling odds and ends they pick up at garage sales, swap meets, or find buried in their basements.

crguy, you're in a small market niche populated by guys who are seriously into the "plane" thing - I get that and I respect that. I just never got into the "plane" thing myself, which is why I offered those I have to you - (I need to go out and dig them out of that store room, btw -- send me your email addy.)

One thing I have learned about Ebay sellers in the very short period of time I've been on there buying tools: most of the sellers are rank amateurs who have absolutely no clue what they have, or any idea what is "good" or "bad" or "damaged" - they just see the item as a "vintage tool" - another widget to peddle and maybe make a buck.
Even some of the sellers who do tool sales only sometimes surprise me with their complete lack of knowledge about an item or a particular brand: I've bought rare-as-hen's-teeth items for a song because they just saw an old beat-up "vintage tool". On the flip side there are the ubiquitous Duro-Indestro hex-drive socket sets that some think are worth a fortune.

EK: Seven photos? Of one item? I'd say that's pretty good as far as "product description" or "disclosure" if at least half of them were in focus.

Move on... what's next on the menu?

 

[four.cycle]

Holy ****! 1-17/32" ?!?! That's almost as big as this one I saw the other day:



errrrr... I'm gonna make a wild-*** guess and say Billings & Spencer, but I actually have no clue.

 

[d42jeep]

Regarding the empty Walden box, I have sold a few on eBay recently for between $6.00 and $8.00 plus freight. They are pretty common. Have you had a chance to check on that Barcalo 1/2" X 9/16" short offset for me yet?
-Don

 

[ekegelmann]

Regarding the empty Walden box, I have sold a few on eBay recently for between $6.00 and $8.00 plus freight. They are pretty common. Have you had a chance to check on that Barcalo 1/2" X 9/16" short offset for me yet?
-Don

I've got a ton of Barcelo and only sell duplicates but do not have that one yet. I still have a few boxes to go through and will keep you posted! Thanks

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