Lots of breakers fit in lots of panels but aren't rated for it.
Pulling a breaker only tells you what could be stuffed in there not what is the right one
Pulling a breaker tells him what 220 breaker will fit the two main buse bars in the panel. A service panel has two hot bars in the middle, each one is 120 volts. He needs a 220 breaker that connects to both sides of the buse bars to feed 220 to the sub panel.
You are missing the problem.
If it was me I would replace his service panel with a square D panel. Everyone has parts and breakers for square D.
If he has a seaman’s service panel he needs to buy a 220 breaker for a seaman’s service panel. It not rocket science!
Does he?
That is Mike's point.......or any approved mfr with classified cb's.
I’ll bet square D makes a breaker that will fit in his seaman’s service panel. Probably lots of manufacturers make breakers that will fit his panel. Do you understand why I said to take a breaker out and take it to an electrical supply store???
OP, w/o better pics, no one knows.
I'm not a mind reader, No. Wal-mart doesn't sell crystal balls (that work).
The whole area needs to be cleaned up and will get done. This is the first major project that I have been able to afford to do to this house. In the past history of this house it has been abused and not taken care of. My wife and I slowly fixing it up to where we like it to be.incorrect way to go about it. code requires you to use listed breakers for that panel. merely pulling an existing breaker that could be the wrong breaker (not listed for that panel) is not the way to go about it. just because it fits doesnt mean its correct.
again, its not about FITS, its about listings.....
lots of manufacturers DO NOT make classified breakers for other panels. you are incorrect.... bringing a breaker to a supply counter person will not net you the correct breaker. it will net you a breaker of the same brand you have in your hand. the supply counter people wont know what panel you have or what is listed to go into it..... again completely wrong way to go about this...
The form factor of the cb is already figured out.........if a Siemens QP is in there now, another siemens will fit, as will a SQ D Homeline, EatonBR, Challeger, Zinsco, Bryant, Murray, etc.Ok, ok, you guys have me laughing. I'm going to pull the panel apart this evening when I get home. I was just going to Lowes on the way home and wonder if anyone was able to tell me which model that panel was. I was not sure if there was any sticker that said what it was.
I didn't want to leave the house without water or A/C to take the breaker to the hardware store to figure out which breaker it was, but if it needs to be done so be it.
Why 100a.... why not? Its all I need in my garage.
Panel leans a bit, but will be fixed once I begin the work on it. There will be no city inspections on this project, just a licensed electrician over my shoulder the whole way.
The subpanels I buy are all Square D. Bought this house a few yrs ago and when I bought it the panel was leaning then. When the inspector saw it then he said it needed to be fixed. They put a screw in it and called it a day. That's why I say it will be fixed right when I'm adding a subpanel. It's while your in there kind of work.
I really appreciate the help and the comments. Thanks everyone.
Take a pic of the entire panel with the door open, a pic of the main breaker close up, and a pic of the entire panel with the deadfront removed (if you feel comfortable).Ok, ok, you guys have me laughing. I'm going to pull the panel apart this evening when I get home. I was just going to Lowes on the way home and wonder if anyone was able to tell me which model that panel was. I was not sure if there was any sticker that said what it was.
I didn't want to leave the house without water or A/C to take the breaker to the hardware store to figure out which breaker it was, but if it needs to be done so be it.
Why 100a.... why not? Its all I need in my garage.
Panel leans a bit, but will be fixed once I begin the work on it. There will be no city inspections on this project, just a licensed electrician over my shoulder the whole way.
The subpanels I buy are all Square D. Bought this house a few yrs ago and when I bought it the panel was leaning then. When the inspector saw it then he said it needed to be fixed. They put a screw in it and called it a day. That's why I say it will be fixed right when I'm adding a subpanel. It's while your in there kind of work.
I really appreciate the help and the comments. Thanks everyone.
Sq D breakers are not UL classified to be used in ANY competitive make of panel.
Square D makes breakers that are listed for Square D panels and nothing else. Eaton and Connecticut Electric are the two companies I know of that make classified breakers to fit oddball panels.
AI *****! I hated auto correct and I hate artificial intelligence. Something we all can live without.
Or too much seagrams is the cause of it.
That's what a robot would say when trying to cover up
yeah but you claimed SQ D made a breaker for siemens panels.... sorry but it doesnt go both directions...
but will you really need 100a? you'll need at minimum (depending on distance) #1 AL or #3 CU. If you step it down to 90a you could go with #2 AL and save some money using MHF.
So those are the only spaces in there? Those two double poles?Ok, ok, you guys have me laughing. I'm going to pull the panel apart this evening when I get home. I was just going to Lowes on the way home and wonder if anyone was able to tell me which model that panel was. I was not sure if there was any sticker that said what it was.
I didn't want to leave the house without water or A/C to take the breaker to the hardware store to figure out which breaker it was, but if it needs to be done so be it.
Why 100a.... why not? Its all I need in my garage.
Panel leans a bit, but will be fixed once I begin the work on it. There will be no city inspections on this project, just a licensed electrician over my shoulder the whole way.
The subpanels I buy are all Square D. Bought this house a few yrs ago and when I bought it the panel was leaning then. When the inspector saw it then he said it needed to be fixed. They put a screw in it and called it a day. That's why I say it will be fixed right when I'm adding a subpanel. It's while your in there kind of work.
I really appreciate the help and the comments. Thanks everyone.
I've used them a number of years ago as well but that doesn't change the fact that SQD doesn't make a listed breaker for other brands even though a Homeline would fit in this situation.
100a is a decent amount more expensive than 90a. Also more than 60a and 60a will do nearly all single person shopsOk, ok, you guys have me laughing. I'm going to pull the panel apart this evening when I get home. I was just going to Lowes on the way home and wonder if anyone was able to tell me which model that panel was. I was not sure if there was any sticker that said what it was.
I didn't want to leave the house without water or A/C to take the breaker to the hardware store to figure out which breaker it was, but if it needs to be done so be it.
Why 100a.... why not? Its all I need in my garage.
Panel leans a bit, but will be fixed once I begin the work on it. There will be no city inspections on this project, just a licensed electrician over my shoulder the whole way.
The subpanels I buy are all Square D. Bought this house a few yrs ago and when I bought it the panel was leaning then. When the inspector saw it then he said it needed to be fixed. They put a screw in it and called it a day. That's why I say it will be fixed right when I'm adding a subpanel. It's while your in there kind of work.
I really appreciate the help and the comments. Thanks everyone.
