Electrical types may I bend you ear?

[Highlux]

Im in the process of setting up a blasting cabinet and powder coat oven in in area and would like my plan checked.


Run 1

6/2 or 6/3 Stove has 3 pronger on it now. If you insist I can add a 4 prong and go that way. But the jist is the 6 gauge with a 50 amp breaker.
I should be good there correct? Be nice to use the three prong cord...save me a couple bucks. Run will be about 10ft from my 200 amp panel. Have 15 open slots.

Run 2
3 outlets. 10/2 with a 20 amp breaker. Just a little run with 3 outlets chained together. Nothing more than a 15 amp power tool through this.

Run 3
Single pole switch to 2 celing outlets for 3 double tube florescent lights. 10/2 with a 20 amp or 12/2 with a 15 amp breaker? Just 3 lights on this one...thats all. Prefer not to hardwire as lights may change in future.

My box is a murray. Anyone know breaker type off top of head?


Thanks.

 

[Charles (in GA)]

Murray (div of Siemens) is same as Siemens, breakers are listed for both brands, exact same part. is your stove got any 120V users in it such as timers, clocks or light bulbs, If so go four wire. If not a three prong (two flats and a D shaped ground pin would be ok.

 

[theoldwizard1]

Run 2
3 outlets. 10/2 with a 20 amp breaker. Just a little run with 3 outlets chained together. Nothing more than a 15 amp power tool through this.

12/2 w/ground is adequate.

Run 3
Single pole switch to 2 celing outlets for 3 double tube florescent lights. 10/2 with a 20 amp or 12/2 with a 15 amp breaker? Just 3 lights on this one...thats all. Prefer not to hardwire as lights may change in future.

If lights only on that circuit and you are using a 15A breaker 14/2 w/ground is adequate.

Most double bulb 4' fluorescent fixtures come with cords. Use a proper outlet box (octagon for ceiling) and a duplex outlet.

 

[Highlux]

Murray (div of Siemens) is same as Siemens, breakers are listed for both brands, exact same part. is your stove got any 120V users in it such as timers, clocks or light bulbs, If so go four wire. If not a three prong (two flats and a D shaped ground pin would be ok.

Its a basic handicap model stove. ( has all control on front...no wiring in back upper cowl at all) There is no glass...there is a light. If you think its a good idea...Ill do it. I dont like getting shocked. (my ******* stripped a wire with my teeth once....customer had flipped breker on overnight...needless to say it felt like Mike Tyson punch to the face)

Am I good on all wire sizes and breaker amps?

 

[Highlux]

12/2 w/ground is adequate.


If lights only on that circuit and you are using a 15A breaker 14/2 w/ground is adequate.

Most double bulb 4' fluorescent fixtures come with cords. Use a proper outlet box (octagon for ceiling) and a duplex outlet.

I got ya...Im a little overkill on the 2 110 circuits.

 

[JoeFin]

Should be fine with 3 wire/prong on the stove

Outlets/Rec with 12/2 on a 20 amp

Lighting ?? - if your going to run them cord and receptacle then they will have to be GFI and that could **** a little. Other wise 14/2 on a 15 amp will be fine for that too

 

[Highlux]

Should be fine with 3 wire/prong on the stove

Outlets/Rec with 12/2 on a 20 amp

Lighting ?? - if your going to run them cord and receptacle then they will have to be GFI and that could **** a little. Other wise 14/2 on a 15 amp will be fine for that too

I was just going to do the outlets in the ceiling and plug the lights in. You say run a gfci for this circuit? I know I will change these fixture to one like I have in garage...just didnt want to hack the cords off if I may reuse them somewhere else...the ones on garage I hard wired. Not sure why the gfci would be needed for the lights?

 

[theoldwizard1]

You might have a hard time finding a 3 prong outlet for your stove plug. They stopped making them.


GFCI are noy required on dedicated lighting circuits.

 

[Highlux]

You might have a hard time finding a 3 prong outlet for your stove plug. They stopped making them.


GFCI are noy required on dedicated lighting circuits.

Heck with it then...Ill just go 4 prong. From what I have read...I run the nuetral and groung together on the stove if there is no provision for a seperate ground and nuetral. Correct?

 

[pattenp]

All 120V outlets in a garage are to be GFCI protected, even ones in the ceiling for plug-in lighting. Ceiling outlets should be wired off of a GFCI outlet on the wall or either a GFI breaker is needed because a GFCI outlet on the ceiling is not considered readily accessible to meet NEC.

 

[Highlux]

Not in a garage. Basement. Make a diff?

 

[theoldwizard1]

Not in a garage. Basement. Make a diff?

No. Both have a concrete floor.

 

[Aceman]

Run 1

6/2 or 6/3 Stove has 3 pronger on it now. If you insist I can add a 4 prong and go that way. But the jist is the 6 gauge with a 50 amp breaker.
I should be good there correct? Be nice to use the three prong cord...save me a couple bucks. Run will be about 10ft from my 200 amp panel. Have 15 open slots.

You will want to use the 6-3 w/ ground. Plus a new 4 wire cord. 3 wire cords/receptacles aren't allowed on new installs.

Run 2
3 outlets. 10/2 with a 20 amp breaker. Just a little run with 3 outlets chained together. Nothing more than a 15 amp power tool through this.

Use 12-2 instead.

Run 3
Single pole switch to 2 celing outlets for 3 double tube florescent lights. 10/2 with a 20 amp or 12/2 with a 15 amp breaker? Just 3 lights on this one...thats all. Prefer not to hardwire as lights may change in future.

Use 14-2 instead. The wire is still big enough that you can add more lights later if you wanted too.

 

[Highlux]

You will want to use the 6-3 w/ ground. Plus a new 4 wire cord. 3 wire cords/receptacles aren't allowed on new installs.



Use 12-2 instead.



Use 14-2 instead. The wire is still big enough that you can add more lights later if you wanted too.

Thanks man. Was I right about how to wire the 4 prong cord to 3 prong appliance?

 

[Aceman]

Thanks man. Was I right about how to wire the 4 prong cord to 3 prong appliance?

No, that defeats the purpose of running separate ground and neutral wires if you tie them together in the stove.

Can you post a pic of the wiring terminals in the stove or a model number so someone can look up the manual?

 

[Highlux]

I can in the morning. Backs killin me tonight.