Energizer Max leaked
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BillK
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A good place to start would probably be their web site.
Chuckster in NJ
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Get a 'Q TIP' and dip it in some vinegar and clean up the damage (leakage)……... Good luck on submitting a claim for damage.
BTW! This sux and I feel your frustration.
BTW! This sux and I feel your frustration.
KenB
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I bet they bend over backwards to help you. Or not.
sparky 1971
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Maybe the "contact us" part of the Energizer website??????
JCR
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Stop using alkaline batteries. They are trash regardless of brand. Lithium while more expensive is safer and longer lasting.
wyliesdiesels
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walta
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lithium primary batteries are very stable and long lasting if you don’t try to recharge them.
The rechargeable lithium-ion batteries demand that you respect their limits or bad things do happen.
Note your cell phones lithium-ion battery seems safe enough to carry in your pocket every day.
Walta
wyliesdiesels
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Ive had numerous iPhone lithium batteries bulge and fail
walta
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Swelling and not holding a charge is a pretty safe way to fail.
Cell phones bursting into flames is a pretty rare event if one uses the factory charger and does not piss off the Mossad.
Walta
And now the games begin. Just completed the phone portion and they are sending me paperwork. They confirmed the batteries are covered and will be replaced. They asked for pictures of the original packaging. I laughted. I said I installed the batteries and tossed the packaging. They said OK we will see what we can do. Sending you a no leak guarantee packet to complete. I can hardly wait.
I asked if the Max are their Top of line and they said yes in energizer.
Keep you posted.
I asked if the Max are their Top of line and they said yes in energizer.
Keep you posted.
American Locomotive
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Non-rechargeable lithium batteries, like Energizer Lithiums are built completely differently. They do not fail and bulge, and they almost never leak since the chemistry and construction is different.
They asked for the receipt and the bar code off the packaging (if available) hope that goes not knock me out of getting my 79 dollar label maker replaced. The leak messed up the terminals. they are white acid rusted looking. Lots of white powder. I scratched off as much as I could with an eraser and some 3000 grit set sand paper I had
Neutral the remaining acid with baking soda and water.
wyliesdiesels
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ummm alkaline batteries do not have acid in them. they have a PH above 7 so they use a solution that is a base not an acid. you need a neutralizer for potassium hydroxide, which is caustic.... so you would need a mild acid solution to return the solution to a PH of 7
isb cornbinder
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I have experienced a better than 50% failure with this brand.When it leaked it damaged my brother p touch.
Any idea how I go about submitting a claim to see if they will cover it ?
rattle_snake
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Any and every Alk battery will end up like that with enough time and heat cycles.
pizza
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man, just stop using them. use eneloop NiMH or Li primaries.
eneloops own. the main downside is that estimation of SoC by voltage is harder because of the relatively flat discharge curve.
here is the best paper i have seen so far describing alkaleak™ technology:
www.osti.gov
basically, any alkaline battery will probably leak eventually. they're ticking bombs. H2 builds up in them, and it's up to the battery's seal to keep that pressure contained. they leak because H2 pushes out electrolyte.
eneloops own. the main downside is that estimation of SoC by voltage is harder because of the relatively flat discharge curve.
here is the best paper i have seen so far describing alkaleak™ technology:
Understanding the Dynamics of Primary Zn-MnO2 Alkaline Battery Gassing with Operando Visualization and Pressure Cells (Journal Article) | OSTI.GOV
The U.S. Department of Energy's Office of Scientific and Technical Information
www.osti.gov
basically, any alkaline battery will probably leak eventually. they're ticking bombs. H2 builds up in them, and it's up to the battery's seal to keep that pressure contained. they leak because H2 pushes out electrolyte.
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pizza
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NiMH is a suitable alternative to alkaline if you care about fire safety.
bulging LiPo does not really present a safety issue.
imo, it's actually a pita. i bet it's not so bad if caught right away, but i've never been that lucky. cleaning the contacts isn't just dabbing some vinegar on there and calling it a day. it's not about neutralization. it's about removing all of the salts (which includes oxides). i don't even use vinegar since it's unnecessary – just water and scrubbing. it truly ***** trying to clean spring contacts in situ because it's hard to get at all the surfaces, and you have to also worry about liquid ingress. i actually disassemble the device and remove them if possible so i can blast them with the sink faucet.
and even after you finish removing the salts, you're left with inferior spring contacts that no longer have their plating. higher-resistance connection. maybe that's not a huge deal in practice for low-current devices, but it still *****. if it's a device i really care about, i replace the contacts with new ones from digikey or whatever.
i'm very happy using eneloops.
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Yeah, I got interrupted 3x and it morphed to a car battery. SH'snadogail
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I clean the corroded devices with a Vinegar solution.
I bought 2 x4packs of the Energizer Max AA. Two out of each pack leaked very quickly. One device was damaged and the other ruined. I went to them because of leaking problems with the Duracells. The old style Energizers I had really good luck with.
tool_scrounge
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Model A Fan
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Isn't the P-Touch about $20 at Costco? Is it worth the hassle?
MichaelP
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They will replace the leaked battery at the end of the battle. If you pay $25.99 shipping and HazMat charges.
Worsedog
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While that's all fact, being torn apart with pliers and thrown into water is not a typical failure mode of an AA cell. I've stopped using alkalines in anything that would really upset me to lose. I've never had one damage a device yet. I've been reimbursed for battery damage before, but it's a bigger pain in the **** than just changing battery chemistry.
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Anyone know why the 2 items that had batteries that leaked failed to lower on after I removed the junk from the terminals and dried it out ?
Did the leak short something out ?
Contacts are super clean and even wet sanded and dried.
Did the leak short something out ?
Contacts are super clean and even wet sanded and dried.
walta
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All the white stuff on the inside is aluminum oxide and it is an insulator blocking the flow of electricity between the screw on end cap and the case.
Walta
nadogail
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When I shipped my damaged flashlight in I received a new one as a warranty exchange
walta
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How long ago was that?
20 years ago, I had a similar experience.
2 years ago was very different. They made several hoops for you to jump thru and then stopped responding.
If they replaced everything the low quality products destroy they would be bankrupt in 2 week.
I maybe true the they were forced to remove the mercury is the root of the failures.
Walta
cody1325
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And I had an off-brand (Power Hobby) LiPo for an Axial SCX-24 RC do the same. I've never had a problem with the official battery sold through Horizon. Thus, no more third party batteries for me.
wssix99
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No, this is par for the course on Energizers. Its nice that their customer service is accomodiating but IMO - its not worth the hastle.
The same thing happened to me with some Energizers in an expensive device and I no longer use them except for short-life jobs in cheap equipment. The Energizers are a lot less expensive than Duracells, but the copper tops now only go in my expensive gear and things that my life depends on.
I think they are probably worried about Chinese knock-offs wrapped in their clothing, which happens a lot. However, I have had this happen several times with Energizers purchased from Home Depot and Target.
kbuhagiar
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Better think twice about that...I used to swear by Duracells, but they are no longer the same, they are notorious leakers, too. Probably worse that the Energizers.
Battery quality in general has gone to **** in the last ten years.
wyliesdiesels
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I havent found any brand of battery that doesnt leak... as said above. battery quality has gone to ****. It seems the size with the most issues are AA. I have yet to have a C D or 9v leak and rarely a AAA....
RalphInCA
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For any devices that I don’t use almost every day, I take the batteries out and store them with the device, usually in a plastic bag.
Have had way too many devices destroyed by batteries to trust them anymore.
Have had way too many devices destroyed by batteries to trust them anymore.
kbuhagiar
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^^^ This right here^^^
My routine now for the last ten years or so.
Inconvenient? Yes, but still worth the effort.
rocksnstumps
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Agreed. Have to treat stuff like I did 40 yrs ago when leaking batteries (used mostly D size back then) were pretty common. Alkaline craze happened and things were pretty good for no leaks for 15-20 years. Lately things have gone back to sketchy and no longer consider any brand trust worthy. Second time the coppertop batteries bit me and ruined another device gave up on being loyal to them. The leakers have all been AA but use those like 90% these days
pizza
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i think it probably has to be either of two things:
- the cells have a lower quality seal
- they generate more H2 (unlikely)