Epoxy Professionals

[Jsf721]

I have decided that I want to Epoxy my floor. I was thinking about doing it myself. I have done it in the past but now I have a 5 +/- year old 2 part water bone coating on the floor now. THis coating was damaged from a combination of the hurricane flood waters, hydrostatic pressure and wear from my garage becoming a construction site for 7 months as various trades and I used it as a work space for the repairs to my house.

So now the cabinets are up and the walls painted, workbench installed and tool boxes replaced. Next up, the floor.

I got a mailing yesterday and in the mailer was a coupon from Epoxy Professionals. 2 car garage $ 999 installed. 100% Epoxy choice of color. Full boadcast. I called to find that it is $ 100 dollars extra to fix all cracks and imperfections as well as grind the surface (if a coating is present) to make it accept the epoxy. A clear pollyurethane with Non-slip additive is an extra $ 300.00.


I costed out the items I needed and it came to close to a grand before the grinder was rented and the labor (me). The difference was this company was using a pollyurethane and I was buying the Polyurea Topcoat. What is the difference between the 2 and what is pollyaspartic.

Here is there website:

http://epoxyprofessionals.com/Epoxy_Professionals/Welcome.html

Seems to me to be a pretty good deal if it is a quality product and job. Does anyone have experience with this company?

Can you (Should you) do a full broadcast on a floor and then not clear coat it? I never really heard of this before.

So $1,400.00 labor and material plus sales tax and done in 1 weekend. They warranty the floor to be free of defects, peeling and hot tire lift for 5 years. The warranty does not cover staining/discoloration from tires but I dont think anyone does.

Thanks for your input.

 

[tncatadjuster]

I can't work that cheap

actually that is below cost for me.

 

[bdamico]

Get what you pay for on this. The reason you're asking is because alarm bells are going off in your head

 

[Jim B]

It cost me within a few hundred $$ of that price to do my 3 car and I didn't do the chips to rejection. Get some references and go look at the jobs and talk to the owners.

 

[Jsf721]

No doubt. That is why I am checking with this board. I was hoping that someone used the company and was satisfied.

Like I said the material without the grinder and labor was about a grand.

Get what you pay for on this. The reason you're asking is because alarm bells are going off in your head

 

[Jsf721]

Did you do the labor yourself? If not what product did you use?

It cost me within a few hundred $$ of that price to do my 3 car and I didn't do the chips to rejection. Get some references and go look at the jobs and talk to the owners.

 

[Jim B]

I did all the labor myself. Like any "paint" job the prep took the longest. I degreased, acid etched and pressure washed and used Legacy products (primer, 100% epoxy with chips and polyurethane top coat). I also filled the joints with Legacy's flexible epoxy gel. It's not hard if you're prepared and have another pair of hands. Profiling the floor took a long time though.

 

[thegarageguy]

I can't work that cheap

actually that is below cost for me.

ditto....must be new in the biz and trying to build up his portfolio....good luck

 

[pauloman]

epoxy contractors have charge enough redo an entire job from time to time when things go bad (especially in the very picky homeowner market)

plus pay for a crew of workers.

material costs alone are probably between $1 and $2 per sf or even more...

even years ago industrial contractors were getting up to $7 or $8 per square foot

 

[Jsf721]

When you say profiling the floor, you mean grinding ?

I did all the labor myself. Like any "paint" job the prep took the longest. I degreased, acid etched and pressure washed and used Legacy products (primer, 100% epoxy with chips and polyurethane top coat). I also filled the joints with Legacy's flexible epoxy gel. It's not hard if you're prepared and have another pair of hands. Profiling the floor took a long time though.

 

[Jim B]

By profiling I mean getting the surface to a "roughness" suitable for good adhesion of the epoxy. Whether you choose to use a primer or not the surface has to have some tooth to it to get good adhesion. It should feel like sand paper. Some people say it should be like 100 grit or 150 grit or some say 60 grit. It should have some roughness to it. Professionals get that surface by grinding or shot blasting in most cases. Although a lot of people have done DIY grinding I think there is a bit of a learning curve on technique and equipment. I have used acid to etch concrete in the past and felt comfortable with it. I also used a pressure washer to remove the portion of the concrete that the acid softened up. And then my floor had 2 weeks of 90* weather and 40% humidity to dry. It was a long process. If I was going to do it again I would consider checking into getting the floor professionally ground and then do the application of the epoxy myself.

 

[Jsf721]

Well today I called and asked for the contact people for the accopunts listed on their site. I wanted to call Harvard University and a few others.

Will keep you posted.

 

[thegarageguy]

looks like a franchise using pics from many sources....1 question would be is which jobs did they do themselves in Long Island? Get local references.

 

[Jsf721]

I got 3 references (locally) of people who have had the crew that will do mikne if I hire them. 2 person crew plus a trainer. 2 of the home owners I spoke to said the same thing about the crew. One person is from Michigan, he is here until mid August. He is trainng the other people. THe job took 5 hours in one case and 7 in the other case. Both were 2 car garages. From what I can gather they were both 400 +/- sq foot jobs. The job that took longer the owner told me there were alot of Divots to fill and perhaps that took time to do and dry.

In both cases the 999.00 job was increased to 1280 becasue the home owner was told the epoxy color coat needed an extra coat to achieve the correct film thickness and the other homeowner was told up front that the extra filling added to the cost. She paid $ 1450.00.

Both people were very happy with their floors. Neither could give me the materials used or the exact procedure as one was at work and his wife stayed home. The other was home but left the crew alone to do their thing. Both installs are what I call new. and one was less than 7 days old so they had not even parked on it yet.

Both references were happy with the floor (looks), happy with the crews neatness and clean up. One home owner told me that he had to vacuum up a signigigant amount of chips along the walls. Not big deal but he said it was alot of loose chips. FLoor was 100% covered with chips even after vacuuming. Both said the smell was minimal and did not last past the evening of the install. Neither person opted for the additioanl clear coat or anti skid. Both felt the floor was shiney and no slip feeling. Both describe the floor as having texture.

The agreement for the install was that the floor be clear of all items and nothing closer than 4" from the floor. They will unload your garage for an additional hourly rate but both owners did this themselves. Floor has a 5 year garantee against peeling, hot tire lift and delamination.Limited to fixing the damaged spot or re-applying at their discression. I am not familiar with other garantees although the local Gladiator Flooring installer wanted $ 2,800.00 for a lifetime garantee-there were exclusions and staining is not garanteed in any of them that I have seen. I am concerned about tire stains. My water based epoxy currently in place has not stained from these tires and I wonder why the 100% epoxies all warn about this staining from tires?

There was one more reference that was not availible but I am feeling like this might be a good deal. Looks like they are looking to train a new guy and I can use this to my benefit.

looks like a franchise using pics from many sources....1 question would be is which jobs did they do themselves in Long Island? Get local references.

 

[streeter]

So it has been a year, did you use them and what were the results? I am in MI and they are due to come out next week but I was trying to find some reviews of their work first.

Thanks!

 

[shaun oriold1]

I quoted a guy the other day $6 /sq foot. He had emailed me asking for all my information on how I work, product used, thickness, solid content, process, equipment used, etc. (The term he used was soup to nuts - whatever that means)

Anyways, he was blown away by my quote saying I'm more than double what he was quoted by 3 others already. Which lead me to be blown away!. Sadly its not worth my time at $3. I had to call him on the phone, and told him to come see my work first hand on various floors I've done over the years, and speak with the home owners. He nicely said, " Thanks but it really is going to come down to price" IF he calls be back to correct a floor his price done by Fly-By-Night-Inc. it will be tough to not say "I told you so"

Would love to know the follow up too. I'm totally leery of companies who use stock photography on their marketing material. Tells me nothing about your quality /scope of work. ITs slightly less sketchy than Mr-fly-by-night, who just steals the same pics.

 

[CT2012]

I've started a couple of threads on this (I too did it myself, that is, everything other than concrete grinding) and with you being in LI your time window to do it is rapidly closing given the pending cold weather.

(Yet here we are at 70 degrees and crazy humidity/rain!)

You'll want to keep that in mind given the steps involved and scheduling.

As for cost for someone to do it all-in, in our area (I'm in the tri-state area as well) it's about $5-6/sq. ft. for a quality job. If it's half that, chances are at least one part of the process is going to **** and be substandard. That'll either be prep, product or application.

 

[Jsf721]

I hope you didn't use them. The owner Daniel did not stand behind his 5 year warranty and he did offer assistance but never followed through in the month he said material was on the way to my house. And now he has stopped responding.
He had told me to stop and wait for his help but it was a stall tactic.

So it has been a year, did you use them and what were the results? I am in MI and they are due to come out next week but I was trying to find some reviews of their work first.

Thanks!