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Jayman17

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I’m looking forward to seeing how this goes. I didn’t know you could get those machines
in a diy version. Good luck with the project.

Jay
 
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rmack898

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Are you going to make that sweet lady do curbing?
Willie, she volunteered
Probably, she’ll be in the cart following the curber……with the whip. 😁
Laura calls it "Supervision"
I’m looking forward to seeing how this goes. I didn’t know you could get those machines
in a diy version. Good luck with the project.

Jay
It might take me a few more days to get going on this project as I still need to find a water reducer additive for a price that won't break the bank. I found what I want in Orlando but I need arrange another stop to make it worth the drive to mouse town.

I still need find a good way to elevate the mixer so I can dump directly into the wheel barrel. I'll see what I can come up with this afternoon. Tomorrow is our anniversary so most likely no curb work.
 

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Mac, just go ahead and fab up a ******** on the curbing chute, it’ll help consolidate the mixture and come out smooth. Come on, you’re in this far

look forward to seeing your project.!
 
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Thanks to everyone for the anniversary wishes, Laura and I went into Jax and had a wonderful dinner.

35PU, welcome to Honu Grove.

I looked through my steel scrap, I mean steel inventory pile to see what I had to make the risers for the mixer. A little band saw time and I had the making of the mixer risers. I got the risers welded up and no the mixer can dump directly into the wheel barrel.

I originally bought the wrong cement so we spent yesterday acquiring type I II portland cement. The first home depot we went to had 2 pallets of it but it was marked sold. We went to the Lowes next door and they were sold out. We then called every Lowes and HD in 30 mile radius with no luck. Laura expanded our search area and we wound up going 40 miles to HD in Atlantic Beach. They had 7 pallets of portland cement and 6 of them were marked sold. We bought more than we needed. We decided to order the water reducer admix and have it shipped so we most likely won't start our first curb section until late next week.tempImageBQyZtL.jpg

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Before we went on the search for cement yesterday, we started out by going to a yard sale that I had seen advertised on FB for an old coal forge and I wanted it. We got up early and were the first ones to the sale and I bought the forge for $100. We left the sale and stopped at an out of the way cafe for breakfast. Right after we sat down there was a man going from table to table asking people something and everyone was shaking their head no. He got to our table and asked if we owned the white truck in the parking lot with the forge in it. I told him yes and that I had just bought it. He asked me if I wanted t sell it and I told him no. He asked how much I paid for it and I told him, he said I could double my money and he would give me $200 and I declined. After we finished eating he came back and offered me $300 for it and I again declined. We finished our coffee and were leaving and as I walked past his table , he stopped me and offered me $400. I declined again.

When I got home I unloaded my new to me coal forge. I need another project like I need a hole in the head but this was just one thing I always wanted. Someday it will look and operate like new again.tempImagegQMm5r.jpg
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Before we went on the search for cement yesterday, we started out by going to a yard sale that I had seen advertised on FB for an old coal forge and I wanted it. We got up early and were the first ones to the sale and I bought the forge for $100. We left the sale and stopped at an out of the way cafe for breakfast. Right after we sat down there was a man going from table to table asking people something and everyone was shaking their head no. He got to our table and asked if we owned the white truck in the parking lot with the forge in it. I told him yes and that I had just bought it. He asked me if I wanted t sell it and I told him no. He asked how much I paid for it and I told him, he said I could double my money and he would give me $200 and I declined. After we finished eating he came back and offered me $300 for it and I again declined. We finished our coffee and were leaving and as I walked past his table , he stopped me and offered me $400. I declined again.

When I got home I unloaded my new to me coal forge. I need another project like I need a hole in the head but this was just one thing I always wanted. Someday it will look and operate like new again.tempImagegQMm5r.jpg
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Did you find a name anywhere?
 
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No name that I can find. The blower housing castings are 556 and 557 for left and right. Its a pretty small blower operated by a wooden handle attached to a crescent gear by a metal link, driving a flywheel via a one way clutch and a leather belt.
Having never seen a blower drive like this is why I wanted it in the first place.
 
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That forge "blows" me away. 🙄. I don't blame you for turning down the offers, though I would have had a hard time with the last one.
 

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No name that I can find. The blower housing castings are 556 and 557 for left and right. Its a pretty small blower operated by a wooden handle attached to a crescent gear by a metal link, driving a flywheel via a one way clutch and a leather belt.
Having never seen a blower drive like this is why I wanted it in the first place.
I have some info, I will find it and then send you a pm
 
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Many thanks to J P Smith for sending me a copy of the Candy-Otto catalog, price list #8.
I now know that my forge is NOT complete, I also know that it is either a Hero #6 or #7 and I can make it which ever one I choose by making the missing hood.
I have been spraying all of the fasteners and moving parts on the forge with PB Blaster several times per day for the last week. I will continue to spray it for at least another week before I put a wrench to any fastener to try and take it apart. So much for the forge project.

The last week and a half has been one cluster after another. The hitch on my truck broke.....again. I had to fix that in order to get a few yards of bulk potting soil for Laura's garden project.

I finally got all the necessary ingredients for the curb cement mixture and weighed everything out to make my first batch and try out the curbing machine. Before I threw everything in the mixer, I wanted to back blade and tamp the area where the first section of curb will go. I started up the Bobcat and put the bucket on and got an alarm that the engine was cold and the machine will not drive. I have 397 hours on this Bobcat so I called the dealer. They told me that they will try to update the software in the computer and if that doesn't fix it then I will need a new computer that is not available. I'm not real pleased with Bobcat right now. I may be in the market for a used Kabota to replace the Bobcat.
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Rmack here are a couple of pictures of my Canedy Otto Blower. It takes 2 belts to run the blower, one pulls one direction then the other pulls it the opposite, inside the hub is a ratchet mechanism. Does yours have that also?
 

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I have been spraying all of the fasteners and moving parts on the forge with PB Blaster several times per day for the last week. I will continue to spray it for at least another week before I put a wrench to any fastener to try and take it apart. So much for the forge project.

Not a huge fan of the PB Blaster. Kroil is much better, but it's expensive, and you have to order it. I'd recommend a 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF. Supposed to be superior to Kroil, but I'm not so sure about that. Whatever the case, both are significantly better the PB.
 

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What's up with that hitch? I remember you had a previous issue,but don't remember the details. Seems like an odd thing to break...wonder if you got one made of junk steel?
 

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What's up with that hitch? I remember you had a previous issue,but don't remember the details. Seems like an odd thing to break...wonder if you got one made of junk steel?
It looks like to me there is a missing bolt, just to the right of the circle there is a place for another bolt. The one missing is the main load bearing (tension) bolt when the hitch is loaded, the failure point is in line with what I would expect if the other bolt were missing.

JB
 

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It looks like to me there is a missing bolt, just to the right of the circle there is a place for another bolt. The one missing is the main load bearing (tension) bolt when the hitch is loaded, the failure point is in line with what I would expect if the other bolt were missing.

JB

Definitely a missing bolt. There isn't even a witness mark where a bolt had been.

Good call, I see it now - that would do it!
 
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Rmack here are a couple of pictures of my Canedy Otto Blower. It takes 2 belts to run the blower, one pulls one direction then the other pulls it the opposite, inside the hub is a ratchet mechanism. Does yours have that also?
No Jeff, my clutch is also a ratchet type by the back and forth motion comes from the up and down motion of the handle attached to the arc gear segment.

Not a huge fan of the PB Blaster. Kroil is much better, but it's expensive, and you have to order it. I'd recommend a 50/50 mix of acetone and ATF. Supposed to be superior to Kroil, but I'm not so sure about that. Whatever the case, both are significantly better the PB.
I have a jug of ATF/Acetone here in the shop but I was never thrilled with the results I got from it.
Toss that pb and buy some CRC Knocker loose. Works better than anything I have used, and isn't overpriced like Kroil.
Until I can get to NAPA to get some, I'll keep using the PB, It's better than nothing.
What's up with that hitch? I remember you had a previous issue,but don't remember the details. Seems like an odd thing to break...wonder if you got one made of junk steel?
Good hitch, bad truck. My truck spent the first 13 years of its life in a coastal town where the roads flooded with salt water every moon tide. Guys that live where they salt the roads every winter probably have better trucks than I do.
It looks like to me there is a missing bolt, just to the right of the circle there is a place for another bolt. The one missing is the main load bearing (tension) bolt when the hitch is loaded, the failure point is in line with what I would expect if the other bolt were missing.

JB
Spot on JB. the front two fasteners are bolts with nuts that were supplied with the new hitch. The rear fastener was an OEM bolt that went up into a captive nut on the frame.
Definitely a missing bolt. There isn't even a witness mark where a bolt had been.
The picture doesn't show it but there is an old witness mark from the bolt when I originally installed the new hitch. I did torque every bolt to spec and I'm surprised that I was able to as there wasn't much left of the captive nut for the OEM bolt. I reworded the fracture in the hitch and made backing plates for the new bolts and nuts the replaced the missing OEM bolts. .
 
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I spent most of yesterday digging a new garden bed for Laura and I put almost 3 hours of run time on the Bobcat. This morning I jumped in it to move the plate compactor I borrowed from a friend for the curb job and the machine locked up again with the "Cold" warning. I disconnected the sensor and loaded it up on the trailer and took it to the dealer and told them to just fix it and call me when it's done.

Since I had an empty trailer and was in Jax, I stopped at the steel supplier and picked up some stuff for the van build. I got 6 sticks of 1"x1/8" aluminum square tube and 8' of 1-1/2" sch40 aluminum pipe, the bill was almost $450. I can't believe how much metal went up.

For those of you that were interested in the cur job, I took my first crack at it this afternoon. My first batch of material was 2 buckets of sand, 23#s of cement, 1-1/2 oz of water reducer, and 6 quarts of water. Everything I've read says it better to err on the dry side of the mix and I think that my mix was just a slight bit too dry.
The curb machine is a 2 man job but Laura was busy and I'm impatient, so I decided to go at it solo. I used the HF cement mixer and my batch size is just right about max size for the mixer. It took 10 minutes to mix and I was able to feed the machine and steer it by myself but I won't do it again without Laura's help. Even though I was working solo, it took me about 10 minutes to use up the batch of cement. I got 8.5 feet of curb done with the first batch. Materials cost for the batch was about $3.50.
I was able to run the curb machine off my little i2000 Honda generator with a 20' extension cord. I'll continue on the curb job as time allows, I have way too many irons in the fire right now.
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Mac, I know nothing about the right way to make garden curbs. The ones I've seen have the low side toward the lawn and the high side toward the garden. I thought the low side was where the mower wheels go so the grass is an even height and you can run an edger on it. Seems like the high side keeps the garden mulch from spilling into the lawn. Kinda like this curb:
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