Esco Jack Stands Any Good?

[jeepinerdeep]

So it looks like I've got a pair of HF recalled 6 ton jackstands. Prefer to just wash my hands of HF wherever possible. Are these a worthy replacement for my use? Ram 2500 and JK Wrangler on 35's. Just looking to support 1 axle at a time for tire off maintenance work. Nothing wild. I'm looking for other folks that have used them under the tubes of straight axles on pickups/Jeeps etc. I do not work on anything with pinch weld lift points.

https://www.amazon.com/10498K-10498-K-Contains-Rubber-Cushion/dp/B01EAW6E8A/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[M635_Guy]

They're fine. The welding is often pretty sloppy, but they're nice stands. I have a set of Escos and the very-similar Daytonas (which are actually better-executed, at least comparing the two sets of four each I own).

My Escos came in a box that had been beat to hell from the stands tumbling around inside - not impressed with Zoro's shipping...

 

[General Geoff]

As long as you have the cradle supports, they'll do fine.

I like the Esco tripod stands because I have a gravel driveway that isn't perfectly smooth or even, and three legs stabilize better than four. They also have very wide feet to spread the ground pressure, which keeps em from sinking down.

 

[Qualitytools]

I have 2 sets that I have had for years and they have been great. Shop around and you can find them at a much better price than what you have listed above.

 

[Steve_P]

I also have the Escos and they're fine. I much prefer their pin and steel post design than the cast iron post and ratchet style; I bought the Escos after an "incident" with the latter style. Yes, the Esco welds aren't going to win any beauty contests, but I'd bet if you calculated out the stress on the welds, only 10% of it would need to exist.

 

[89MustangGX]

These look like what you probably want if you only want the axle cradles for a much better price (pair):

https://www.amazon.com/Esco-Performance-Stands-Truck-10497/dp/B0B8T3978K?tag=atomicindus08-20

I have wanted to switch to the Esco style for quite a while and just picked up the HF/Daytona version with the 25% year-end coupon. I have to say they are really impressive - the welds look robotically done and the powdercoat is very nice. I wanted to support Esco, but given they are both made in China, don't think it makes a difference.

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Sidenote - I saw Project Farm included Escos in his recent jackstand test. I left a comment but never got an answer unfortunately. He tested them facing the same direction when doing his "push-the-truck-over" stability type tests. This seems like they would be more stable in one direction, but am I wrong in thinking they would be much more stable all around if facing opposite directions given their tripod design? I don't think this would make a different on square/four-post designs, which is probably why it wasn't addressed, but I think it would greatly increase stability with a tri-pod.

In other words:



Thoughts?

 

[mike93lx]

Another happy user here

 

[BTL-A4]

I use them on my Chevy Silverado on the frame rails and like them. I also used them on my 914 on the jack pads. They feel very stable and I like that the safety pin has a safety pin. My only quibble is that Esco does not make a jack pad for pinch welds. I emailed them and asked and they said the ones it comes with should work. They don't.

 

[Farmall450]

They look solid. Honestly, so do the new HF ones. With that said, I mainly use US Jack or Snap-on Hein Warner ones. I also have a 6 ton pair from O'Reilly's (via the pawn shop back when I was in college) that see some use.

 

[jeepinerdeep]

Thanks all. I got a little spooked of the 3 ton rating, as they are traditionally too light for trucks. I ended up going with these traditional imported style, but with the secondary lock pin. Maybe someday I'll pick up the Esco's for additional stock.

 

[mike93lx]

Thanks all. I got a little spooked of the 3 ton rating, as they are traditionally too light for trucks. I ended up going with these traditional imported style, but with the secondary lock pin. Maybe someday I'll pick up the Esco's for additional stock.

How big are your trucks that a 3 ton pair isn't enough to hold up half of it?

 

[jeepinerdeep]

How big are your trucks that a 3 ton pair isn't enough to hold up half of it?

Too light as in the traditional sets of 3 tons are too short and too wobbly when extended. Nothing to do with the actual weight.

 

[mike93lx]

Too light as in the traditional sets of 3 tons are too short and too wobbly when extended. Nothing to do with the actual weight.

Got it

 

[nh_yota]

I have a pair of Escos that I use on my Tacoma since the front frame rails are too wide for the saddle of a normal jack stand.

As others have mentioned the build quality is a little sloppy but I've been using them for 5+ years and they work just fine.

They are much more stable on an uneven surface because they have only three legs instead of four and the rubber puck on top keeps them from sliding around on the frame.

 

[VolvoRyan]

I have 8 Escos. I love them.

I have four saddle posts for them.... the saddles work well on RWD Volvo's with their Dana 30's and live axles.

-Ryan

 

[Steve_P]

I have 8 Escos. I love them.

I have four saddle posts for them.... the saddles work well on RWD Volvo's with their Dana 30's and live axles.

-Ryan

I have at least 4 Escos, all with the standard rubber pads; the pin type is the style of jack stand for me. I emailed them to see about purchasing the saddle posts and never got a reply. were you able to purchase them separately? I looked for them online a few years ago and didn't see them anywhere. I don't really need them as I have another homemade set of similar stands with the saddle style posts, and I can make a set if an inch sized tube, or bar, will fit, and I know I can buy another set of them with the posts, but....

 

[89MustangGX]

I have at least 4 Escos, all with the standard rubber pads; the pin type is the style of jack stand for me. I emailed them to see about purchasing the saddle posts and never got a reply. were you able to purchase them separately? I looked for them online a few years ago and didn't see them anywhere. I don't really need them as I have another homemade set of similar stands with the saddle style posts, and I can make a set if an inch sized tube, or bar, will fit, and I know I can buy another set of them with the posts, but....

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Only place I've seen advertising them. I ordered and am waiting for them to ship.

 

[VolvoRyan]

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Only place I've seen advertising them. I ordered and am waiting for them to ship.

Yup. Pelican is where I got my saddle posts. That was over a year ago. Right after I ordered the saddles, the price doubled.

I need to get a couple replacement pads for the other posts. You can't win with pinch welds.

-Ryan

 

[mike93lx]

Yup. Pelican is where I got my saddle posts. That was over a year ago. Right after I ordered the saddles, the price doubled.

I need to get a couple replacement pads for the other posts. You can't win with pinch welds.

-Ryan

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081ZZBH26?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[89MustangGX]

Yup. Pelican is where I got my saddle posts. That was over a year ago. Right after I ordered the saddles, the price doubled.

I need to get a couple replacement pads for the other posts. You can't win with pinch welds.

-Ryan

Definitely not cheap- wish I could have gotten them for half price!

I've been using Poly pinch weld adapters for a long time and they have held up well, but I haven't tried them on one of these stands yet.

 

[VolvoRyan]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081ZZBH26?tag=atomicindus08-20

Definitely not cheap- wish I could have gotten them for half price!

I've been using Poly pinch weld adapters for a long time and they have held up well, but I haven't tried them on one of these stands yet.

Thanks guys. I'll try one of these pinch weld options. There's really just the one car here that likes to be on pinch welds. The other seven cars don't really care.... so I'd not really considered something proper.

-Ryan

 

[89MustangGX]

Thanks guys. I'll try one of these pinch weld options. There's really just the one car here that likes to be on pinch welds. The other seven cars don't really care.... so I'd not really considered something proper.

-Ryan

For comparison, this is the adapter I've been using for years:

Side lift to fit outside 2 ⅞” to 3 ¼” - Jack Pad (Round) (#1007) — PROTECH PRODUCTS

Stop scratching your rear end and the rest of your chassis with our specially formulated soft plastic jack pads. PROTECH pads provide complete protection from the hard metal surface of your jack, preventing scratches, chips and dents forever when used properly. Stop using those blocks of wood, rags

www.protechproducts.com

I don't know if one style is better than another, this is the only one I've used. But I liked the idea of only have polyurethane against the car vs. metal. It does look like a more expensive option though.

 

[mike93lx]

For comparison, this is the adapter I've been using for years:

Side lift to fit outside 2 ⅞” to 3 ¼” - Jack Pad (Round) (#1007) — PROTECH PRODUCTS

Stop scratching your rear end and the rest of your chassis with our specially formulated soft plastic jack pads. PROTECH pads provide complete protection from the hard metal surface of your jack, preventing scratches, chips and dents forever when used properly. Stop using those blocks of wood, rags

www.protechproducts.com

I don't know if one style is better than another, this is the only one I've used. But I liked the idea of only have polyurethane against the car vs. metal. It does look like a more expensive option though.

The delrin insert in the aluminum ones is what touches the pinch weld.

I use them with my Quickjacks and they seem to work fine for my two cars, once or twice a year

 

[89MustangGX]

The delrin insert in the aluminum ones is what touches the pinch weld.

I use them with my Quickjacks and they seem to work fine for my two cars, once or twice a year

That's interesting- actually the opposite of what I thought. I assumed the idea was to basically avoid jacking on the pinchweld and jack on the body on either side. Changes my thinking of how it actually works. I could see the metal ones working well also in that case.

 

[mike93lx]

That's interesting- actually the opposite of what I thought. I assumed the idea was to basically avoid jacking on the pinchweld and jack on the body on either side. Changes my thinking of how it actually works. I could see the metal ones working well also in that case.

Yeah, no contact on the aluminum, at least on my cars

 

[BrandonV]

That's interesting- actually the opposite of what I thought. I assumed the idea was to basically avoid jacking on the pinchweld and jack on the body on either side. Changes my thinking of how it actually works. I could see the metal ones working well also in that case.

Depends on the car.

I've seen vehicles where the provided jack puts the load on the side while most put the load on the pinch weld itself.

 

[Aileron]

I have the aluminum pinch adapters I use with my quick jacks in my garage also. Need to order another set to keep with my 2 post at the shop.
Question on the Esco stands. I read 3000#s but its was always my understanding its in a pair, so is it 3000# alone and 6000# paired or 1500# alone and 3000# paired??

 

[mike93lx]

I have the aluminum pinch adapters I use with my quick jacks in my garage also. Need to order another set to keep with my 2 post at the shop.
Question on the Esco stands. I read 3000#s but its was always my understanding its in a pair, so is it 3000# alone and 6000# paired or 1500# alone and 3000# paired??

Esco says 3 tons each stand on their website

https://esco.net/product/3-ton-performance-jack-stand-pair/

 

[Qualitytools]

^ mike931x is correct, each stand is rated at 3000.

 

[M635_Guy]

$40 a pair for the axle posts would be decent (and I'd order two pair). $40 each is silly.

 

[89MustangGX]

Esco says 3 tons each stand on their website

https://esco.net/product/3-ton-performance-jack-stand-pair/

^ mike931x is correct, each stand is rated at 3000.

This has been debated, and to my knowledge nobody has been able to get Esco to commit one way or another or obviously to fix one of the sources. I do feel like I would trust their manual as a more authoritative source than their website.

Manual:

 

[908Jim]

For anybody following this thread, I have the standard 10498 ESCO stands and I like them, but the minimum height is pretty tall. They are good for an SUV but too high for a car. The 10499 are a much better option for most cars!

 

[16again]

I have 2 sets. Gray set (6600lbs) from many years ago.
Red set (6,000lbs, with cross braces) set from about 5 years ago. Both sets clearly labeled.
That’s each stand.

 

[89MustangGX]

I have 2 sets. Gray set (6600lbs) from many years ago.
Red set (6,000lbs, with cross braces) set from about 5 years ago. Both sets clearly labeled.
That’s each stand.

The problem is- is that per stand or per pair? The new ones are also clearly labeled at 3-ton, but nobody, including Esco, seems to know if it's per stand or pair. My understanding of the ratings standards is that they are rated per pair. But...

 

[16again]

The problem is- is that per stand or per pair? The new ones are also clearly labeled at 3-ton, but nobody, including Esco, seems to know if it's per stand or pair. My understanding of the ratings standards is that they are rated per pair. But...

Since you don’t need to buy a pair, my ASSumption is each as they are individually labeled.
That said, I don’t have a definitive answer.

 

[89MustangGX]

Since you don’t need to buy a pair, my ASSumption is each as they are individually labeled.
That said, I don’t have a definitive answer.

My ASSumption likewise is that the manual that has all the legalese and warnings from the lawyers in it is correct and the website put together by whomever is wrong. I also noticed looking at the heavier duty 5-ton model on the website, it is stated per pair. Would be great if Esco would chime in!

 

[VolvoRyan]

I posted another thread two days ago about single vs. pair ratings. Glad I did. I got an excellent reply from someone (whose name I forgot, but always has good info) that a 2015 ASME standard now requires jack stand capacity to be listed per pair.

-Ryan

 

[Steve_P]

If you watch the Project Farm destruction tests, a single Esco fails at >25,000 lbs; as does most anything but the most ghetto stand.

 

[Qualitytools]

$40 a pair for the axle posts would be decent (and I'd order two pair). $40 each is silly.

I have 2 sets. Gray set (6600lbs) from many years ago.
Red set (6,000lbs, with cross braces) set from about 5 years ago. Both sets clearly labeled.
That’s each stand.

That’s cool! You have the original AC HYDRAULIC one