Euro Tools Query
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Those are for “Hi Lok” fasteners used in the aviation industry.There are also some regular square drive ratchets with a hole through the anvil that allows you to slip a small allen key in. Proto makes some, not sure who else.
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Basically they are a bolt without a conventional bolt head. To tighten the nut, you use an allen key in the bolt, and a wrench to tighten the fastener. They are used where access to both sides of the fastener is difficult.
Any maker catering for the aerospace industry offers these. Snap On, Stahlwille, KoKen certainly do.
I have heard this from my father as well, but for the US when he was a mechanic when he was younger. Everything was 1/4 or 1/2 inch drive, there was no 3/8 even available. I am not a professional, so what I use really does not matter much. However, most of the professionals that I know all use 3/8 as primary or 1/4 inch when they can. It is talking to them that caused me to expand my 1/4 drive set to 15mm. There are many that do not even use 1/2 drive except for impact. YouTube also results in videos outlining for new people to the mechanics field that 1/2 chrome can often times be skipped over in the beginning as you can use 3/8 for most all non impacting needs.
I am one that never really used 1/2 drive in chrome, except when I could not or for other reason did not use my 1/2 impact. My reasining was the tools, especially the ratchet, are just too big for many things. I will say that I ordered a new short set of 1/2 sockets since I got that nano Astro 1/2 drive ratchet. My 3/8 set takes me to 24mm in both shallow and deep, so it is not often that I actually need 1/2 inch drive.
Yep, 3/8 does most stuff well enough for home and general automotive needs, and if I bought all my tools now I'd go that route. For farm equipment and trucks I'd probably still need 1/2 too, and i even have some 3/4 drive sockets that can be very useful.
Still need the 1/2 drive stuff... axle nuts, suspension and frame bolts, etc will all do much better with 1/2 inch. I have a few 3/4 drive but it is an old Craftsman SAE set that has 1 inch and up sizes approaching 2 inch, so they dont get used much at all. I have been thinking of upgrading my axle nut set from 1/2 to 3/4 drive, but that would require me to also get a 3/4 impact and that makes for an expensive total upgrade cost with limited use for me.
As far as engines, I work mostly on passenger cars and trucks/SUVs, the occasional HD truck and small engines. I dont work on farm stuff, commercial type trucks, semi, etc, so that keeps me out of the 3/4 and 1 inch drive market.
Yup, the Audi ones are like these, only with threads in the whole bolt shaft.Those are for “Hi Lok” fasteners used in the aviation industry.
Basically they are a bolt without a conventional bolt head. To tighten the nut, you use an allen key in the bolt, and a wrench to tighten the fastener. They are used where access to both sides of the fastener is difficult.
Any maker catering for the aerospace industry offers these. Snap On, Stahlwille, KoKen certainly do.
Check this out from Bahco, not bad
Amazon uk has many options, search for pass through ratchet set
That looks like a nice set. The set I have is old, one of the first ones introduced from Gearwrench (branded as GearRatchet). My set is nice, but it goes from 10mm to 19mm only... and has some SAE sizes which I never use. While the set covers most things, it would be nice to have the smaller and some larger sizes.
Some sets are interchangeable with others, meaning you can buy brand A sockets to go with your brand B set. However, this is not always the case. I mention that as I would recommend if you get such a set to get the most complete set you can. It is not like buying a regular socket set and having the ability to buy missing sizes from any brand you want. In some cases, like the Craftsman Maxx Access, they are discontinued making filling in gaps harder. The Gearwrench style, branded Vortex, seems to be the most common I have seen as far as other compatible brands. However, I must admit I have not looked too hard into the options. I am only looking for a larger ratchet with a flex head and find the Gearwrench one a bit too expensive for what it is.
On that topic, are there any Euro tools that are designed like the pass through ratchets, but having a 17mm hex opening and still having the retaining ring/clip inside? The Gearwrench has a size that seems like 17mm, but it is not a hex, this does not properly fit a true 17mm hex.
Hazet (and others) has a shock absorber set but its pricey, ratchet inside ring is 21mm.
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HAZET-WERK - Hermann Zerver GmbH & Co. KG
Shock absorber tool set 4910/13 ∙ Square, hollow 12.5 mm (1/2 inch) ∙ Inside hexagon profile, Pin profile, hollow, Outside hexagon profile ∙ Number o…
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This is used for VW/Audi shock absorbers
I still don't use any 3/8. It's either 1/4 or 1/2. I don't need anything bigger either. If I do then it's for plumbing and I use pliers wrenches (or adjustable wrenches if it fits better... like right next to a wall).
I wanted to follow up on this thread. It has been a few months and I have used some BGS tools, so I can now have an opinion that matters. What is it exactly that causes the opinion of a lower quality tool? I understand they are rebranded and all of that, and that the quality is not at a level of Snap-On, Wiha, etc (all those top brands), but what are the issues people have experienced?
My experience has been mostly positive. I would take BGS e-torx sockets for example over Gearwrench, I have both brands of e-torx. Why? The reason is the fit and the reduced sizes. The Gearwrench e-torx sockets are bulkier than the BGS, and in return I do not see any advantage. Now, the cost... it does cost me a bit more as I need to import BGS whereas with Gearwrench they are often available on a nice sale price. But regardless, the cost of all I refer to is reasonable to me and comparable, if that makes sense.
My experience has been mostly positive. I would take BGS e-torx sockets for example over Gearwrench, I have both brands of e-torx. Why? The reason is the fit and the reduced sizes. The Gearwrench e-torx sockets are bulkier than the BGS, and in return I do not see any advantage. Now, the cost... it does cost me a bit more as I need to import BGS whereas with Gearwrench they are often available on a nice sale price. But regardless, the cost of all I refer to is reasonable to me and comparable, if that makes sense.
What do you think of this?
Draper Expert Metric Coloured Deep Socket Set, 3/8" Sq. Dr. (12 Piece)
Established in 1919, Draper Tools is a supplier of quality trade, professional and diy tools. Check out the massive range of tools available from one supplier.
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Are these socket set good? Quite cheap in the online marketplace
What do you think of this?
Draper Expert Metric Coloured Deep Socket Set, 3/8" Sq. Dr. (12 Piece)
Established in 1919, Draper Tools is a supplier of quality trade, professional and diy tools. Check out the massive range of tools available from one supplier.
Are these socket set good? Quite cheap in the online marketplace
Draper Expert are just another Taiwan/China rebrand, but they have a lifetime warranty and as long as your local tool shop will honour that then they’re a good buy. I beat on Draper Expert ratchets and sockets for about the first 20 years I was wrenching and have no complaints, particularly at the price point.
Draper is Taiwan made? I thought its COO is Britain. No wonder Draper socket only set , come around USD 37.5
Draper is a British family owned company, but as far as I know they don’t manufacture any tools in the uk. The vast majority of their stock is imported from Asia, not sure if it’s Taiwan or China, although I think Draper are also the UK importer for knipex.
Some history here:
About Us
Draper Tools Official Website. Established in 1919, Draper Tools is a supplier of quality trade, professional and diy tools. Check out the massive range of tools available from one supplier.
www.drapertools.com
I believe that they are the UK importer for Elora as well.Draper is a British family owned company, but as far as I know they don’t manufacture any tools in the uk. The vast majority of their stock is imported from Asia, not sure if it’s Taiwan or China, although I think Draper are also the UK importer for knipex.
Some history here:
About Us
Draper Tools Official Website. Established in 1919, Draper Tools is a supplier of quality trade, professional and diy tools. Check out the massive range of tools available from one supplier.
Confirmed, Draper Expert completely made in Taiwan, I asked the importer this evening.Draper is a British family owned company, but as far as I know they don’t manufacture any tools in the uk. The vast majority of their stock is imported from Asia, not sure if it’s Taiwan or China, although I think Draper are also the UK importer for knipex.
Some history here:
About Us
Draper Tools Official Website. Established in 1919, Draper Tools is a supplier of quality trade, professional and diy tools. Check out the massive range of tools available from one supplier.