Finally Building My Detached Garage, Build Thread

[KYGTP]

If you don't mind my asking, how much is All-Rite charging you a yard for concrete? I'm should be in the planning part of building a garage here in a couple months. I just thought it might be nice to get an idea of what I would spend on mine when I get around to actually starting on it.

I can let you know next week. My contractor is summiting a draw next week some time and it will have all the Receipts from All-Rite in it. I will PM you number once I get them.

 

[KYGTP]

Well, On Friday, beleive it or not, the concrete crew was able to strip all the forms off the walls and got them ready to be picked up on Monday. Those guys busted their butts all day on Friday.

Here are some pics of all the newly poured walls:

Once again, if the weather holds out all this week, then we will keep on moving along.

The time line for this is this:

On monday, all the forms with be picked up and later on that afternoon, they will come and water proof the foundation.

Tuesday, downspout lines and draintile will be installed and maybe get a small load of pea gravel just to hold the drain tile in place. We are not going to backfill until we get some lumber on the walls to support the walls a little more.

Either Weds or Thursday we hope to get the plumber in to rough in all the plumbing and get the inspection. IF, we can get all of that finished, then we MAY be able to pour the floor on Friday.

So there we you go for now and more updates to come next week.

 

[jhn9840]

Great project. Your contractor is really moving out. As hot as it's been it's got to be rough.

jhn9840
John

 

[jhn9840]

Great project. Your contractor is really moving out. As hot as it's been it's got to be rough.

jhn9840
John

 

[KYGTP]

This is an amazing build! Can't wait to see what's next.

Thanks!!

Great project. Your contractor is really moving out. As hot as it's been it's got to be rough.

jhn9840
John

I must say, I think that I have been one of the luckiest guys around building a garage. I say that because we have been 10 business days into this project and I already have foundation walls up and finished. Not only that, but the weather has been great for us. We got a couple of small showers here and there, but nothing that caused us to have to stop anything.

My yard is brown as all get out from the lack of rain and all the heat, BUT the heck with the yard, I am getting my garage built without any delays

The heat index on a couple of days here in the Cincy area was well over 100 Degrees, but they kept on. I felt bad for them all really, but that is what they do everyday.

One question though, I am having the rough in plumbing done next week and before the floor is poured, any suggestion as to what I need to do before the floor is poured?? I am not doing floor heat, since I will have forced heat and air in there. I need to know before Friday. Thanks in advance

 

[ZRX61]

waiting for the Monday update....

 

[KYGTP]

waiting for the Monday update....

Well, Not a whole lot for today

The only thing that happened today was that the Concrete guys came out and cleaned everything up and got all of their forms moved out.

Tomorrow, they are going to seal up the foundation with the rubber style sealer, instead of the ol' tar stuff.

I did take some pics tonight, but they are pretty much the same as before except it looks a little cleaner.

So here is a little repeat pics, but with no forms in the pics.......

I did get the footer all cleaned up so that it would make it easier for the "sealer" guy and for my contractor to lay down the drain tile in a couple of days.

Here is the Left side of the garage wall:

Here is the back wall: Two pics one at one end and the other from the top end.

The "birds eye" veiw from up above heading up to the empty lot where all the trucks have been coming down.

So that you can get a "scope" of the project, I had my "Special" littel guy, my 5yr son stand in the corner to give you an idea as to how tall these walls are. Now granted, it is a 5 yr, but you get the idea.

I did not think that the pic took so I moved in a little to get a better pic of him standing there. If you look close you can see he is carrying his favorite thing in his hand, Blue McQueen, from the movie "Cars". It is like his magic feather, he ALWAYS has some type of "Cars" car in his hands.

I hope to get the plumber out ASAP to get the rough in done, but then we have to wait on the inspection, which may take a little bit, so I have been told, so I don't see us pouring the floor this week

Oh well, I can not complain, everything has moved pretty quick so far, and now things are going to slow to a bit.

Till Next Time.......................

 

[Motown 454]

Thats some serious concrete work there. Your son already looks at home and the garage isn't even done. He's a lucky little guy having a dad with a nice garage to learn in. Its looking great.

 

[Jackass1983]

Wow, that´s masive!

Cheers Mark ( www.ST2000.de )

 

[KYGTP]

Thats some serious concrete work there. Your son already looks at home and the garage isn't even done. He's a lucky little guy having a dad with a nice garage to learn in. Its looking great.

He has loved watching it go up. Ever night after dinner, he ask me "Play in Dirt" So ever night we head out and walk the hill and play in the dirt for a bit and last night we walked around in the pea gravel for a bit.

Your project is so well planned that all of this is redundant, but the following occurs to me.
Does your electrical plan use the rebar as grounding? You'll need a ufer connection which requires it's own inspection.

What about termite protection?

Are you using a wire mesh in the concrete to help prevent cracking?

Any plans for added depth where you will install a lift?

Have you considered any additives to the concrete? I've read about adding fiber to strengthen the slab and I believe that there are chemical additives that help repel water once the concrete is set.

Also, for the strongest slab you should keep it as wet a possible for a good 28 days.

The build looks great!

Well, I don't mean to be redundent, if that is what you mean, or your questions being redundent?

I will answer you question going down the order in which you asked:

The grounding question, I am not sure of. I will have to look into that, I don't think it will be ties to the rebar though.

Termite protection, I don't think that we are required in this area to have it, but I will look into that as well.

I am not using Wire mesh in the concrete floor, but we are using #4 Rebar 12 OC in both directions, which equals a WHOLE lot of rebar in the floor.

I did mention to the concrete guys that I will be installing a lift and that the concrete need to be at a MIN 5" in that part of the floor, so they were going to make sure of that.

I am not putting any additives in the concrete, just striaght 3500 psi. I think that I am going to see about having the concrete floor polished and sealed, kinda like what you see in Lowes, Home Depots, and bid box stores like that. Those floor hold up to alot of abuse and still look good.

I hope that I answered most of your question, except the first couple, but I will try and find those out though.

 

[KYGTP]

By redundant I ment that everything I mentioned had most likely already been taken into consideration.

Where I live there are subterranean termites that will build mud tubes up the sides of a concrete foundation to create a tunnel to the wood above. The day before pouring a slab the termite guy sprays the area with chemical that repels them.

As to using the rebar as grounding, this would have been specified in the electrical plan and would need to be completed before the pour. But just because it's in the plans doesn't mean it might not be overlooked. In my case I had the ufer connection installed and inspected, and after the slab was set we had to change the electrical design. At that point the ground connection was no longer adequate and I had to have several copper ground rods added.

A polished floor like Home Depot would be beautiful. I'm not sure why you don't see more of those on Garage Journal.

Your project looks great and I'm following it!

Not a problem, alot of these built threads get pretty long and it IS hard to know has been cover and what has not. It is not a big deal to me, I love to answer question and give information, at least what I know.

I was thinking the same thing about polished floors. I started looking into it and it is a 3 step process with several coats of sealer/clear. At least what I have read so far. I am still looking into it.

 

[Dustoff]

Wow, that is impressive...340+ yards of concrete! It's like the bunker garage all over again.

 

[KYGTP]

Wow, that is impressive...340+ yards of concrete! It's like the bunker garage all over again.

Too Bad it is not going to have all to "cool" stuff the "bunker" has in it. I am already stretch pretty good just with the building itself, not including the stuff I would like to put in it. But that Ok though, over time I am sure I will fill it.

 

[twostory]

A polished floor like Home Depot would be beautiful. I'm not sure why you don't see more of those on Garage Journal.

Simple answer: Cost. I looked into if for my garage, the quote started at $3/sqft & went up. Cost depends on how many grits they have to use to reach the desired level of gloss.

Even an expensive Epoxy job is cheaper than a polish job & you get to pick any color you want with epoxy

 

[jktruck150]

And here is the LONG pile of dirt, at the highest point, I would have to say that is at least 20ft or higher worth of dirt and is about 100ft long, which it does taper down, but it is still a ton of dirt though.

Anyone else notice the house on top of the hill has a door exiting into thin air?

Just had to point that out!

Good luck with the garage! Looking good. Those are some massive pours!

 

[theroyz71]

LOL! Watch that first step, it's a doosy. Probably saving for a deck. I can tell they must live paycheck to paycheck (like me).

 

[KYGTP]

Anyone else notice the house on top of the hill has a door exiting into thin air?

Just had to point that out!

Good luck with the garage! Looking good. Those are some massive pours!

When everyone see that, they say the same thing.

LOL! Watch that first step, it's a doosy. Probably saving for a deck. I can tell they must live paycheck to paycheck (like me).

When he had his house built, he told the contractor HE wanted to build his own deck, well, it has been about 3 yrs now and still no deck.

He works as a remodeler with some other guys, so I am sure his business is down and money is tight, but it is still kinda funny to look up there and see it though.

 

[KYGTP]

Simple answer: Cost. I looked into if for my garage, the quote started at $3/sqft & went up. Cost depends on how many grits they have to use to reach the desired level of gloss.

Even an expensive Epoxy job is cheaper than a polish job & you get to pick any color you want with epoxy

Sir, you are correct. I checked out a place today and he said it would be around $3.50 a Sq Ft, which would leave it looking like a Big Box store look, which he called a 800 grit finish. Heck, for that much you could get lay down decking.

I THOUGHT that they put some type of sealer down, but nothing like a epoxy type of coating, that would not allow oils and such to stain it.

Oh well, at least I looked into it.

 

[KYGTP]

Mid week Update for ya:

Tuesday, the guys came out and shot water proofing on the walls with that rubbery stuff, instead of the old style tar. That stuff is amazing. Toward the end of the day, my contractor had the drain tile installed ready for the pea gravel that was to arrive in the morning today.

Picks of the that part.

So today, I got supper luckey, we got a ton of stuff done. First thing in the morning, we had pea gravel starting to arrive to cover up the drain tile around the foundation. My contractor started to dig for the sewer tap and get ready for the plumber to arrive for him to start the rough in and also get the inspection the today as well. Plumber arrived around 9am and started his thing while my contractor started setting down spout drains.

Here are some pics of that:

We tied in the floor drains to go to a existing drain that I already have at the end of the drive way and also took the down spouts and drain tile and feed them into the drain too.

And the BEST of all for the day................................................

Now tomorrow, the concrete guys are coming out to put all the steel in the floor and set the pour up for Friday. I am so siked that things have gone so well so far.

By next Friday, I hope that they will start on setting floor joist and moving along.

I will get pic of all the steel for the floor tomorrow and post them up and then of the fished floor on Friday for ya guys.

So there you have it, till next time......

 

[cdrewferd]

Great looking progress. That building is going to be really nice to use. How many loads of pea gravel did they end up bringing in?

 

[intimadatorsquizz]

awesome progress, good luck with the rest of the build.

 

[ZRX61]

tap*tap*tap... is this thing on?

 

[KYGTP]

Great looking progress. That building is going to be really nice to use. How many loads of pea gravel did they end up bringing in?

I think he said it was around 4 to 5 loads from the slinger. But there is even more to come once they get some floor joist on the wall and start to back fill.

awesome progress, good luck with the rest of the build.

Thanks, at this point I will need a little luck to stay on budget. Oh wait, what budget, that went out the door LONG time ago. It is just part of it though............

tap*tap*tap... is this thing on?

You crack me up, I saw your post and started to laugh

Anyways, Late yesterday they started to put down the vapor barrier and rebar for the floor. They worked until about 7 pm and had most of it finished and only had a little bit to do in the morning. They started in the morning around 6 am and started to pour by 6:30. They got is all poured by around 9 or 9:30 and started the finish work. When I got home after work, they had the sealer on and were about half way through saw cutting the floor.

Here are the pics from the day and also of all the rebar that was put in the floor. Do you think it is a little over kill? #4 ever 12" OC both directions, now that is alot of rebar.

The floor took 40 yrds to finish, so now the a grand total of concrete so far is 349 yrds, a mix of flowable fill, 1500 psi, 3000 psi, 3500 psi and 4000 psi.

Enough with all the talk.................

And here is the saw cuts at the end of the day, the floor still needs to spraid off and cleaned up a little from the cutting.

Till Next time...............

 

[thowle]

That sir, is currently and will be a great garage! Cannot wait to see it in it's finished state.

Also -- see you are in Kentucky?

 

[KYGTP]

That sir, is currently and will be a great garage! Cannot wait to see it in it's finished state.

Also -- see you are in Kentucky?

Thanks, and yes I am in N. KY, about 5 minutes south of Cincinnati

 

[Motown 454]

Awesome! This is going to be some sweet shop.

 

[51rider]

Subscribed!

With all that excess dirt, I'd get it graded & form some berms for your own shooting range. A new garage and a new range, couldn't get any better could it?

 

[DaleJR88Fan]

Great build, looking forward to its completion and what you do on the inside once you can afford it after all the concrete this is taking. One question, what is the raised slab for in the garage? Really like your diagonal expansion cuts so you don't have the normal cut going right through the middle of the garage door that kind of defeats the purpose of the weather stripping at the bottom of the door. My buds and me will definitely keep that in mind for future pours.

 

[ZRX61]

No updates for 4 days!

 

[Nostraquedeo]

So is the retaining wall on the right side of the garage, that is shown on your plans, be concrete or brick?

 

[KYGTP]

Awesome! This is going to be some sweet shop.

Thanks, I hope it turns out in the end the way that I want.

Great build, looking forward to its completion and what you do on the inside once you can afford it after all the concrete this is taking. One question, what is the raised slab for in the garage? Really like your diagonal expansion cuts so you don't have the normal cut going right through the middle of the garage door that kind of defeats the purpose of the weather stripping at the bottom of the door. My buds and me will definitely keep that in mind for future pours.

The raised slab is for the "foyer". When you walk into the front door, there will be a stair case that leads up to the second floor and there will be a small closet in the that space as well. Then you turn to the left and there will be a door that goes into the garage itself.

No updates for 4 days!

Well, really it has only been two days, since they do not work on the weekends.

Not a whole lot going on. Monday they spent most of the day laying everything out and realized that the top of the walls were all screwed up and not flat. For what ever reason they did not "float" the top of the walls to their marks that they had.

What we could not figure out is that they took all that time shooting elevations, and they did not even follow it!! Well the good news is that the concrete people are going to pay for the labor to frame that part up, since every single stud will have to be cut to a certain length to ge the top flat.

The past yesterday and today, I have been a little under the weather, so I have not been able to get and pics until late tonight. I will post up pics of the progress tomorrow.

Today they dropped off all the floor trusses and more lumber. Tomorrow, the main steel support bean will be delivered and set. It is a pretty big beam, around 3000lbs, it is a 16 X 67, 16" wide and is 67lbs per foot.

More update and pics to follow tomorrow, sorry you have to wait..............

 

[KYGTP]

So is the retaining wall on the right side of the garage, that is shown on your plans, be concrete or brick?

If you are looking at the front side of the garage, the right side is all concrete. It is a engineered retaining wall, since it will be holding the hillside back. I have a existing Allen Block wall that I am going to extend up to the front edge of that wall to finish it off. It should look pretty good in the end.

I think once they get some wood on the floor joist, then they are going to start back filling most of the foundation and then the Allen Block wall will be started.

 

[mustangboy]

I couldn't help but noticed that green approval sticker on the piece of pvc. I see the name Schadler on there, are you a Schadler or did the person who approved it? That is my moms family name.

 

[KYGTP]

I couldn't help but noticed that green approval sticker on the piece of pvc. I see the name Schadler on there, are you a Schadler or did the person who approved it? That is my moms family name.

That is the name of my plumber, Schadler Plumbing, he is out of Alexandria, his first name is Kevin, SUPER nice guy and does GREAT work. He is the only one that I use for all my plumbing needs. He also did my house 5 yrs.

 

[KYGTP]

Well, today they delivered the support bean that runs the length of the garage, and I must say it is one heck of a beam. Heck the support post itself is at least a 5" post with about a 3/8 wall. I think it is a little over kill, but that is what was spected out.

Ok, enough with all the talk, here are the pics from the past couple of days:

Some pics of the floor joist they dropped off as well:

At the end of today:

There you have it, mid week update for ya. They hope to get most of the floor up by Friday, but we will jsut have to see how the next couple of days go.

He did say that the trusses are about 2 wks out, so if the weather stays good, then we should be under roof in about 3 to 4 wks. But it has got to rain sometime, I mean over 3 wks with only 2 days of rain????

I hope you guys are enjoying this as much as me Till Next.............

 

[Moontang]

This is one heck of a project thats for sure!!! I will say that this all looks really familure to me... Tell that guy that owns the Mustang he should wash it once and a while! LOL

 

[BobbyK]

O.k. ... I'll ask the dumb question.
Why not carry that I-beam ALL the way across instead of stopping what seems 4' from the other side?

Nice build so far though.

 

[Nostraquedeo]

O.k. ... I'll ask the dumb question.
Why not carry that I-beam ALL the way across instead of stopping what seems 4' from the other side?

Nice build so far though.

If you look at his plans on page one, he has a staircase going up there.

 

[KYGTP]

O.k. ... I'll ask the dumb question.
Why not carry that I-beam ALL the way across instead of stopping what seems 4' from the other side?

Nice build so far though.

If you look at his plans on page one, he has a staircase going up there.

Yes, that is correct, the stairs to the second floor are running up that wall, so the beam stops about 4 ft from the end and will be hidden in a framed wall.

 

[cdrewferd]

This is a great build. Can't wait to see more pics as it continues to go up.