Ok I finally got off my **** and checked the plans. The technical term is sheeting recess with a drip edge trim piece. It is required to get the Edge Creep Warrantee. In other words it makes sure the bottom of the building keeps the water out even if the water rises above the bottom of the sheet metal up to 3".
Finally building the Ultimate.
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Nighttrain
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I think you just caused the price of cement to go up in Texas (supply and demand). You going to trade that tank for the cement? That would be a good deal if you are not going to use it. I have a Pioneer 30,000 gal tank which runs for about $13k installed.
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Subscribed so I don't miss anything!
I too have not heard of the notch deal for the sides.
I too have not heard of the notch deal for the sides.
flybefree
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With an operation the size of yours you MUST have some serious hardware...show us a tractor! Maybe not the crown jewel, just a little utility tractor or something...oh, and anything you have Allis-Chalmers. What do you make out of your pecans? For the record, I am a huge pecan supporter...I look forward all year to my wife's pecan pie at Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Shaun
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LOL we have a whole bunch of equipment on the farm. Most is older stuff, as I am one of those who believes in getting every last bit of use out of something. I will take some pics tomorrow. In common with you is a combine, and two of the JD 8100's, we also have our orchard tractors 90 to 110 HP and couple of cotton pickers. Then the stuff that is more like science fiction to you guys up north the pecans harvesting equipment.
flybefree
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Ohhh...I have never seen pecan harvesting kit...that would be cool. Yes my lurking friends I know I could now google the term and see two thousand pics in two nano seconds...but I would rather wait.
Shaun
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Thanks for supporting the pecan industry! China has discovered pecans and decided to start buying 36% of all the pecans produced in the world. This makes for short supply and high prices, the price has tripled in the last four years. This is great for pecan farmers, but really hard on consumers and industrial users (think bakeries and icecream). Domestic consumption is down 70% in the last five years.
flybefree
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OK Amercica...WTFlapjack...I know times are tough, but come'on folks...eat some pecans. Are they buying pecans to eat I assume? We raise premium soybeans sold to Japan for tofu production as well as just regular old soybeans.
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Along the China lines: My 11 year old son just walked in with a new cap gun, not metal six shooter from back in our day, but a plastic made in you know where job. Junky thing did not even make it out of the package with out breaking.
After asking him why he paid good money for this junky plastic gun, he brings up my new Glock. Hard to explain the difference to an 11 year old.
So I showed him how to pop the caps with a small hammer.
After asking him why he paid good money for this junky plastic gun, he brings up my new Glock. Hard to explain the difference to an 11 year old.
So I showed him how to pop the caps with a small hammer.
Foxxtrot
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Ok, I have never posted on this forum, although I have been lurking for a while, but that is really funny, so I had to say something! (For the record, I hate Glocks, mostly cause I can't shoot them for ****).
Anyway, when they say you guys do it bigger in Texas, they ain't kidding!
I have never poured a building with over 200 yards of concrete, and I have been in construction for 20 years! I am definitely keeping an eye on this one!Whew. Got that first post out of the way!!!
flybefree
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Foxxtrot, great first post brother.
MWS: I would have to say "son, Glocks are made in Austria, they speak German...people who speak German are able to make good guns...even out of plastic.". Now I would also tell him great guns are made here, by Americans, and are made mostly of steel...just like the good Lord intended since 1911.
MWS: I would have to say "son, Glocks are made in Austria, they speak German...people who speak German are able to make good guns...even out of plastic.". Now I would also tell him great guns are made here, by Americans, and are made mostly of steel...just like the good Lord intended since 1911.
Ok, I have never posted on this forum, although I have been lurking for a while, but that is really funny, so I had to say something! (For the record, I hate Glocks, mostly cause I can't shoot them for ****).
Anyway, when they say you guys do it bigger in Texas, they ain't kidding!
Whew. Got that first post out of the way!!!
LOL, Well Sir I am honored to have been a part of your first.
I thought the crew pouring the concrete were worked hard, until I got the bill today, I think got the hardest part.
Ahhh you must have at least one Kimber around then. I have been on a kick the last few years collecting all sorts of em. My favorite is still my Colt Gold Cup, just a pain to lug around much.
flybefree
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Kimber is right! Favorite side arm. In truth I probably shoot the ole Ruger 10/22 more than anything...starlings oh how I hate thee.
Here it is squirrels, I hate the fuzzy tailed rats. We somehow ended up with a freak hybrid that lives in burrows, eats our pecans and each other when you shoot them. My favorite means to dispatch them is a 17 HMR....wicked little round and accurate!
Will67
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Don't forget to put in Hydronic floor heat system
Man, here in West Texas we worry more about refrigerated air than heat. Forced air will do for the few of months of winter we have to endure. Although last year we had a nasty cold spell where we did not get above 10 degrees for three days. Really took the area by suprise, we had rolling blackouts for 5 days.
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awesome shop layout! I have a 80x120 shop layout I am dreaming of building! 3 different sections but laied out somewhat different that ours! cannot wait to see your finished product!
Good day today, crew showed up and made some good progress. They have the first two bays up. Only three more to go, then the side perlins and they will be sheeting. Darned thing is a lot bigger than on paper....LOL!
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flybefree
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It's HUGE! Looking good, everything turn out to your satisfaction with the pour?
The pour overall is pretty good. I have two cracks both coming from the floor drain for the wash bay. I knew in advance to outlet side would crack as it is only anout 4' from the end of the slab and the drain pipe is shallow in the concrete. The other is on the inside corner on the other end of the drain.
flybefree
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For 230 yards that sounds like success...yes, we shall say that is success...surely just a surface crack.
First of all, WOW! You are one lucky guy!
Ok, to the question. You mentioned that you were insulating the building but only the shop/living area was going to be heated/cooled. Does that mean you are doing the same level of insulation throughout?
If you use metal dividing walls with high-grade insulation for the shop/living areas it will block noise and keep your electric bills down. I'd suggest foam insulation; it's an excellent noise buffer and it will prevent the condensation issues that can occur in metal buildings in warm climates like Texas. For instance, if you use fiberglass without foam; but what's worse is that the moisture it hold can cause your building to rust and grow mold and mildew....I would hate for anything like that to happen to this Ultimate Garage.
Hope this helps...I'll be following!
LOL, thanks! I would have to defer the luck to the Big Guy upstairs, I have been truely blessed from the wife that works full time with me to the two beautifull children we share. It has been a very long hard road to get to this point in my life, and could not have done it without the Good Lords help.
The business facilities in the pic behind the new garage are all insulated with foam, in fact 6,000' of it is cold storage. I just have reservations about the fire rating. They used a latex coating in the plant with a thirty minute fire rating, but there are always people there 24 hours a day. This new building will also house a few semi loads of corrigated boxes in the dry storage area.
These boys are really moving, tomorrow they will finish all of the perlins and steel. All that is left is insulation and sheet metal, then a ton of interior work.
Really happy with everything so far.
I am actually getting excited about all of this now.
Really happy with everything so far.
I am actually getting excited about all of this now.
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flybefree
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Looking good...what type foam do you use closed or open?
Shaun
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I have always used 2 pound closed foam. For a vapor barrier the closed foam has always been recomended to me.
I will tell you the foam is really dense, I had to cut a hole in the cold room it took a forklift ramming it to get the hole opened up after cutting it.
I will tell you the foam is really dense, I had to cut a hole in the cold room it took a forklift ramming it to get the hole opened up after cutting it.
flybefree
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Ok, that sounds like what we call "Chumley Engineering" use a forklift to quickly punch a hole in a wall....I punched a hole in the rear ($1000) tire of one of my Dad's tractors when I was a kid with a bucketloader. Bless his heart he didn't kill me...the man is a saint.
LOL...we cut the perlins, sheetmetal and insulation as deep as we could. The 16 lb. sledge just bounced off. Well, to tell the truth the forklift ramming was fun.
Dad's are funny, mine would blow up over little things that really were no big deal. The big screwups....he was actally calm about. Go figure!
Ok, here is a picture of the "drip edge" I was talking about earlier.
We are still on line to start sheeting on Monday, They installed all the braces, base angles and three exterior man doors today.
Next week will be busy ordering lighting, distribution panels, kitchen cabinets, AC/heating units, ect......
We are still on line to start sheeting on Monday, They installed all the braces, base angles and three exterior man doors today.
Next week will be busy ordering lighting, distribution panels, kitchen cabinets, AC/heating units, ect......
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Foxxtrot
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That's about the way mine was. Come to think of it, he is still that way!
Looks like you are making good progress. I still can't get over how big this thing is! I can't wait to see it done!
Well since this is a by the seat of the pants kind of build, I am making this up while we go.
I found a spiral staircase that I think will fit in nicely for access to the second story. What do you guys think?
I am going to try to give the facade of the apartment and downstairs level an old fashioned look to it. Maybe thirties kinda street feel.
I found a spiral staircase that I think will fit in nicely for access to the second story. What do you guys think?
I am going to try to give the facade of the apartment and downstairs level an old fashioned look to it. Maybe thirties kinda street feel.
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I found my cbinets for the shop as well, I am going to go with moduline. On the two post lift I can't think of any reason other than price not to go with Mowhawk. However given the safety features and overall quality I think it will still win out.
flybefree
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I like the stairs since they save so much floor space...so long as you have a way to get bigger items up another route.
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Heh, we haven't had any rain since about February, and we _still_ have mosquitoes here in SE Texas! Nice build. I planned on putting an efficiency apartment over about 1/4 of our 40X80 shop, but the quotes kept coming in higher and higher, so that part, as well as a lot of amenities, got put on the 'to do later' list. Oh, and the fiber is great stuff to put in the concrete. We had that done in our driveway, since it was thinner than our foundation. We have NO cracks in the driveway, but a few in the foundation. Not sure if it would have prevented it, but for how much it costs per truckload, it's worth it IMO.
Gene Beaird,
Pearland, Texas
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Nah, it's already stupid-expensive!!! It's usually 50-60% of the cost of a steel building these days.
Gene Beaird,
Pearland, Texas
flybefree
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I NEED a forklift...can't have the skid loader tearing up my new floor! Any recommendations on one?