Fire House and Garage part II

[onemoretry]

amazing build!

whats the info on the engine?

It is a 72 American Lefrance. 1500 gpm with a 750 g tank. Detroit Diesel 2 stroke and 5 speed allison transmission with a split rearend. Came from my home town where when I was 5 my mother told me the town was throwing me a birthday parade (memorial day) and this truck was the first thing down the street. I have considered it mine ever since then and was able to pick it up when they retired it. The story is much longer than that and includes two family fires, the whole middle of the town burning down and fireman training, but, as my wife says, nobody really cares about that...

 

[Jpfreak33]

Love the updates, the truck fits perfect in there. Keep them coming, your garage updates make me happy hahaha

 

[GrantMLS]

amazing build!

 

[onemoretry]

Thanks all. The insulation will be blown in a week from Saturday. I will update then.
Thanks again,

 

[theroyz71]

Wow! I am so jealous. Your buildings are beautiful. Please keep the updates coming as the interiors progress.

 

[makgreens]

It is a 72 American Lefrance. 1500 gpm with a 750 g tank. Detroit Diesel 2 stroke and 5 speed allison transmission with a split rearend. Came from my home town where when I was 5 my mother told me the town was throwing me a birthday parade (memorial day) and this truck was the first thing down the street. I have considered it mine ever since then and was able to pick it up when they retired it. The story is much longer than that and includes two family fires, the whole middle of the town burning down and fireman training, but, as my wife says, nobody really cares about that...

i dig it
i want my next project to be a 30's fire engine!

 

[jolakki]

Great looking building you got there.
Is it going to be insulated or just for summer use?

 

[squatch]

I really did enjoy reading about both of your builds. I too would leave the interior exposed to show off the craftsmanship if it were mine. Although, it would be nice to have it insulated. Here is a suggestion (it would take forever to complete but it would be neat. Insulate the voids between the angled "studs", then put a lip around each parallelogram. and attach some lumbar flush with the studs. Here is a picture to illustrate:

You could then see the angled studs and have insulation. I know it would take forever to do, but it's what I would do.

-Casey

 

[onemoretry]

i dig it
i want my next project to be a 30's fire engine!

I would love to do the same, but I am afraid I am cut off on new firetruck projects...

 

[onemoretry]

Great looking building you got there.
Is it going to be insulated or just for summer use?

Thanks all. The insulation will be blown in a week from Saturday. I will update then.
Thanks again,

I am going to insulate the whole thing. The garage I am only doing the upstairs.

 

[onemoretry]

I really did enjoy reading about both of your builds. I too would leave the interior exposed to show off the craftsmanship if it were mine. Although, it would be nice to have it insulated. Here is a suggestion (it would take forever to complete but it would be neat. Insulate the voids between the angled "studs", then put a lip around each parallelogram. and attach some lumbar flush with the studs. Here is a picture to illustrate:

You could then see the angled studs and have insulation. I know it would take forever to do, but it's what I would do.

-Casey

I thought of doing something similar including drywalling in between the studs. The barn I am just going to side in as it will be used and needs to be warm and relatively fire retardent. The garage I am leaving the first floor open and will see if I want it insulated in the future. If I do, I will try to do it in such a way as to leave the framing visible. If not, it will look great as is.

 

[babzog]

We got the upper gables done today and they came out vertical, tight and symmetrical...cutting double outside flanges on the center boards @ 7-7/8" on the west side and 7-3/4" on the east side....I can live with an eight of an inch difference

A building of this size (what, 48' long?) and over that span, he's only out one eighth of an inch?!? Now THAT is craftsmanship!

What a beautiful job!

One request: Could you please post some detail pics of the stair construction? I need to build some deck stairs and am looking at various options. Thanks!

 

[onemoretry]

A building of this size (what, 48' long?) and over that span, he's only out one eighth of an inch?!? Now THAT is craftsmanship!

What a beautiful job!

One request: Could you please post some detail pics of the stair construction? I need to build some deck stairs and am looking at various options. Thanks!

I have actually remeasured just because I was so amazed. The building is surprisingly square even after several months of settle.

I will have to steal the camera back from the wife and will try to get some pictures of the stairs.

 

[onemoretry]

A building of this size (what, 48' long?) and over that span, he's only out one eighth of an inch?!? Now THAT is craftsmanship!

What a beautiful job!

One request: Could you please post some detail pics of the stair construction? I need to build some deck stairs and am looking at various options. Thanks!

I am so sorry that I haven't given you the requested pictures. I just realized it today. Let me know if you need something else.

 

[thomask]

onemoretry,

Thanks for posting and hats are off to these real craftsmen. They built your barn like a fine furniture maker. We just can't get lumber here in the south like you have up there.

If you ever get down to Florida stop by Emergency One in Ocala for a tour of their fire engine factory.

 

[shmo]

Projects like this amaze me just for the sheer scale of everything. Seeing the detail and thought you put into the entire build leaves my jaw hanging open. Really really cool!

Thank you for sharing.

 

[onemoretry]

I know it has been a while and hate to think that you all think I am ignoring you...Wife and I have been busy, excuse 2, 3, travel for work, etc.

But we are actually making some headway in finishing the upstairs.

The stairs leading up (or down depending)

Several thousand nails through this guy

No idea how many cuts

The waste pile thus far

Access to the cupola

Access to the storage space

Now of course I am not done, but at least I have done a little...

The downstairs is a little bit further away...

The insulation is done, just waiting for drywall.

 

[Jpfreak33]

YES! bringing back my favorite thread The upstairs looks great! Sad to see all the structure covered up but it looks great either way

 

[onemoretry]

YES! bringing back my favorite thread The upstairs looks great! Sad to see all the structure covered up but it looks great either way

Don't worry, I left the other building open downstairs... I need to work in this one. Welding with a lot of wood downstairs is not good, and woodworking with a lot of sawdust and open framing is bad upstairs, let alone the temperature issues...

 

[Jakethemuss]

Very nice build. I'm a fireman up in Cleveland, and I'm jealous. haha.... Keep up the excellent work.

 

[Hemihead2]

Fantastic build. George and his crew are that rare find of craftsmen in building construction that take deep pride in all they do. They obviously feel deeply that what they leave behind is a reflection of themselves and that it is of the highest and integrity.

onemoretry, I like your reference to Zen and the Art of Motorcycle maintenance. I read it many years ago and took away much the same as you did in process and quality. I remember too the concept of "quality traps" that can stop a person from making a "journey". I often have to remind myself of that to not be held back from doing something I've never done before.
Thank you for all the posts of your build.

 

[onemoretry]

Of course the posts are coming few and far between now as I am only doing a little bit on weekends and evenings, but I love every minute of it.
Hemi, I was a little hesitant to put the Zen quote in, as I didn't want to sound too crazy, but frankly it is true. I obviously love the work that George has done, but I really love working on the rest of it now too. Even if I never finish, and at the rate I'm going, that might be true, I am and will be happy.

 

[SiGmA_X]

Amazing build. I've never seen new construction of this design before, it's beautiful and looks very stout. Nice job sir.

 

[mfwm3]

Beautiful build. The workmanship reminded me of the barns at Shelburne Farms, VT.

 

[onemoretry]

Thanks for the recent compliments (and the old ones) and sorry I haven't updated in awhile. We are still doing the finishing work and have been slowed down by the normal summer outdoor tasks. The upstairs of the barn is coming nicely with almost everything done except trim.

Sorry for the quick post edit, I just realized the pictures weren't the ones I wanted and the ones I wanted are screwed up. Sorry for the waste of bandwidth.

 

[T>D>C]

Beautiful build. What is the raised section on the end of the 2nd floor for? It is about 2-3ft tall. Any updated pics?

 

[jgoglick]

What a great build - very innovative!

 

[onemoretry]

Beautiful build. What is the raised section on the end of the 2nd floor for? It is about 2-3ft tall. Any updated pics?

My intent was/is to put a lift under neath it. Now the wife wants to start a band and have concerts there...

More pictures will come in a couple of weeks.

 

[Craftsman51]

Awesome building!

 

[abstamaria]

A beautiful building, impossible to build here where I live. Working in the cold, the icicles, the views - all so alien to me. I love the firetrucks too. Thank you for posting.

Andres

 

[fergus]

Sorry, maybe a dumb question, but why no moisture barrier on the sides of the barn? Is the siding good enough? Did I not see it?

 

[onemoretry]

Sorry, maybe a dumb question, but why no moisture barrier on the sides of the barn? Is the siding good enough? Did I not see it?

If the building breathes enough and the correct material is used for insulation, it really isn't needed. There are two schools of thought, seal it up tight to keep moisture out, or let it breath to get the moisture out after it is there.

 

[onemoretry]

I've finally got the stain done. The pictures really don't do it justice, but it looks fantastic.

 

[rmckee]

I'm reading up on the Geobarns and this certainly is one amazing structure. I love the colors you chose for the roofing and staining. It really sets it apart from the natural or red choices many people go with. My hat goes off to you, and George, for this beautiful barn!

May I ask approx what it ended up costing in the end?

 

[gabedad]

The stain looks really good - I had not seen those pictures

Geobarns Rock

rmkee- my 24x30 for just the shell was 34k Plus foundation

 

[930dreamer]

Very nice work.

 

[onemoretry]

Thanks everyone, I've got more pictures coming. We finally have the drywall up in the downstairs, and the trim up in the upstairs.

 

[J-man67]

WOW....gorgeous. I just bought my first house with a detached 2 1/2, BUT this is on my future list!!! I want to save enough to do an extra building, but just leave the framing...just something to look at it. haha, Great buildings man!! ENJOY!!!

 

[canam]

Looks great!
Do you have PICS of the drywall up in the downstairs, and the trim up in the upstairs?

 

[onemoretry]

You think you know how to throw a party?


























Some of the pics are just for fun... I tried to pick the ones that show some more of the detail that we've been adding over the last several years.
Sorry it's been so long since I've been back.