fire proof garage door

[sfm1951]

I want to put a garage door between two parts in my shop( to seperate a new body shop and my fab shop. The wall is already up seperating the two.)
The insurance company says it has to be fire proof. I asked at the local lumber yard if they had a listing ,and they said they don't know of one. Anybody know of a maker of such a door? Thanks in advance, Steve

 

[nehog]

Not cheap, but IIRC Grainger does carry rated doors. You need more info from your insurance company however: there are different ratings (time and temp.)

 

[Pate]

Most mfg make a fire labeled door.

Therma Tru makes a nice door.

http://www.thermatru.com/products/entry/steel-entry-doors/fire-doors-steel-entry/index.aspx

 

[ishiboo]

Most mfg make a fire labeled door.

Therma Tru makes a nice door.

http://www.thermatru.com/products/entry/steel-entry-doors/fire-doors-steel-entry/index.aspx

Those are entry doors, he's looking for a garage door. Fire-rated entry doors are easy to find.

I'd Google "fire rated roll up door" and see what you find. I'm not sure how many traditional segmented garage doors you will find that are fire-rated, roll up doors on the other hand there are many.

 

[jstroede]

Sectional overhead doors are hard to create a true fire rated door with. The problem is being able to make them close in event of a fire. The materials themselves are not the issue. Your best bet in this instance is going to be a rolling steel door.

John

 

[wssix99]

You might search for a fire rated "barn door." They are widely available for industrial use and I'd think a sliding door would work great in your application and stay out of the way.

 

[nehog]

Those are entry doors, he's looking for a garage door. Fire-rated entry doors are easy to find.
...

Ouch, thanks for pointing that out! I missed that issue entirely.

Now, a fire-proof garage door (roll-up) is going to be a bit more expensive!

 

[MoToys]

I want to put a garage door between two parts in my shop( to seperate a new body shop and my fab shop. The wall is already up seperating the two.)
The insurance company says it has to be fire proof. I asked at the local lumber yard if they had a listing ,and they said they don't know of one. Anybody know of a maker of such a door? Thanks in advance, Steve

You most likely will need a Metal Slat "service door". A roll up type with a system connected so it goes down when the fire system goes off.

Check out Alpine Door from East Setauket, NY. Any sales person over there can help you out.

LINKY: http://www.alpinedoors.com/products/fire-smoke-doors/

 

[SuperSocket]

A lot of roll-up commercial door manufacturers produces fire rated doors. Check out cornell iron works - Made in the USA and they are great service doors.

http://www.cornelliron.com/

 

[kbs2244]

The only ones I have seen have been in an industrial setting.
They were sliding doors on tilted tracks with a melting fuse link so they were auto closing.

 

[pattenp]

I've got to ask, why is the insurance co telling you that you have to have a fire proof door? Doesn't building code dictate what's needed? What has your local building official said? Can it be fire rated for a couple of hours instead of being fire proof?

 

[theoldwizard1]

There is no such thing as "fire proof". Everything is rated at a temperature and time.

 

[6768rogues]

Correct about not being fire proof, they are fire rated for a certain number of minutes. To have a fire rating, they need to be tested and listed, and installed as listed, using listed accessories, and it must be self closing in the event of a fire. Usually they are either sliding doors that are counter weighted and use a fusible link, or roll up doors that are gravity or electrically powered and triggered by fusible links and/or smoke detectors on either side of the door. I have seen them put up in tandem with regular doors, so the regular door functions daily and the fire rated door only drops in the event of a fire. You should find out the rating requirements before shopping, whether it be 1 hour, 2 hour, etc.

 

[sfm1951]

I should have said fire rated. The insurance company said it has to be fired rated for 90 minutes. This is being done in a Morton building and with fire code sheet rock all the way to the roof metal. The wall between the two parts already done when I bought the building.( I don't know why. Maybe they have had claims. They say these are things that have to be done before insuring it. ) Steve

 

[White 99]

Might want to check with a different insurance company.

My old one dropped me and the next one seems better and is cheaper.

 

[cvorkian]

check local fire code for all the specifics that they require.

ANY "fire rated" door will do.... I have seen MANY variations during my inspections and calls into businesses.

Steel doors (hollow or otherwise) are your best bet...

 

[kbs2244]

Any insurance company can make their own rules.
They don't HAVE to insure you.

 

[BrunaRibeiro]

It sounds like they are saying that you need a door for people along with the garage door. As for fire proofing,there is fire proof paint. Check with a good paint dealer,not the large home centers they can't make special orders.Get in touch with your local authority and have them explain in detail what they really need to approve your project. Good luck

 

[pmiranda]

The IBC calls for maximum sqft of some uses. For example a storage garage can be much bigger than a service garage.

 

[cyamaha2007]

My work has sliding doors to section off a area in a fire. They have a weight that is held by a piece of plastic. The plastic melts weight falls and slams the door with alarming speed.

 

[Bondo]

Ayuh,.... A Steel door is pretty fireproof, regardless the configuration ya need,...

from a man-door, to a roll-up....

 

[Charles (in GA)]

A man door in this firewall will require a closer on it, so it cannot be left open.

Charles

 

[upndown]

If this is a commercial application, find out what your code is, and follow that. I doubt this will be a DIY project considering you'll need to schedule the Fire Marshall to do a drop test!

If this is your private shop, find out exactly what the Ins. Co wants! How many garages have we seen here that have interior garage doors, I don't recall fire doors being an issue! I would hope they have Ins. In the mean time shop around, if they are still unreasonable tell them to pound sand..

 

[Mattlt]

Is there some way to mount two doors, back to back? Would that double the rating? Just asking... This one's new to me.