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Starting to rebuild. Would be great if someone knew what this was.
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Walker 93632 is my guess. Early model because of the cover plate on the release valve.

My guess but sure someone will come along and correct me.
 
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That's what I was thinking it was too, just want to get the right parts.

This thing works great but leaks. As I was taking apart, I saw welding where the block meets the frame. So I grinded the weld to take apart and I can see that the tapped hole is very low and coming out the bottom of the block slightly. The frame is also altered with that hole just opened at the bottom. That is maybe why it was welded at some point. My carriage bolt for that hole is all jacked up. Inside that hole I can see an allen head screw?
I haven't taken the block apart yet till I get some feed back.
 

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Good directions on rebuilding this jack can be found here: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80165

There are some parts that look strange to me. Namely the threaded collar that looks to go around the ram and on the end cap. Also the casters seem strange like they went away from the pin type that go through both wings on the mount.

And of course something is very strange with the weld and bolt block. Looks like someone tried to fix a broken Jack in a not so factory way.
 
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Update:
The ram appears to have some scratches and pits. I took some pics and hope they might be helpful if someone can tell me if this ram is junk.
I have access to a lathe if that's an option to remove the imperfections and order a slightly over sized seal? I just don't know if that's ever done in this kind of case.
I also have an idea why the ground bolt and block and weld stuff. Jeeper, you say the casters look funny? I think at one time this thing was missing a rear caster. The shop or person used it a whole lot with this problem, dragging the jack along the frame bottom and ginding down the frame and block. At some point it received different casters and weld with some yellow paint.
Just a theory?:dunno:
 

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Tried polishing a little.:confused:

Do these seals look factory?
 

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spectralen, the advice given is good as well as your "theory". I've got a couple of those of that vintage and the rear casters are through both support pieces and retained with snap rings. They are pricy according to Hiball and whoever changed yours went cheaper with the bolt in's. The allen head screw under the bolt removed is the access to the relief valve passage. You won't likely get it out. None of mine would come out. I'm guessing that the ram packing on yours is leather and the slotted threaded collar is used to tension leather seals, where most use O type rings. Your's is a bit older than mine likely. I purchased reseal kits from Hiball and it carries all the parts needed for all those similar to yours except the ram leather packing. He may have that model as well. You've got a couple of freeze plugs on either side of the valve in the main body to remove yet. Careful the order things come out!
 

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Are both sides of the frame like this?
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Did they maybe do that to work with different casters?
 
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spectralen, the advice given is good as well as your "theory". I've got a couple of those of that vintage and the rear casters are through both support pieces and retained with snap rings. They are pricy according to Hiball and whoever changed yours went cheaper with the bolt in's. The allen head screw under the bolt removed is the access to the relief valve passage. You won't likely get it out. None of mine would come out. I'm guessing that the ram packing on yours is leather and the slotted threaded collar is used to tension leather seals, where most use O type rings. Your's is a bit older than mine likely. I purchased reseal kits from Hiball and it carries all the parts needed for all those similar to yours except the ram leather packing. He may have that model as well. You've got a couple of freeze plugs on either side of the valve in the main body to remove yet. Careful the order things come out!

When you say leather, Is it a rubber over leather? The discs are rubber but almost look like they have a fraying of leather.
I was just going to flush with a transmission fluid and call the block area good and not take it all the way down, seeing it worked fine.
 
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Are both sides of the frame like this?
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Did they maybe do that to work with different casters?

Just the one side shown is like that. It doesn't rub the ground at all since I've owned it, so a repair was done years ago.

I was just going to replace the cup seal and the 3 other seals shown, and if there is a tank seal.
 

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When you say leather, Is it a rubber over leather? The discs are rubber but almost look like they have a fraying of leather.
I was just going to flush with a transmission fluid and call the block area good and not take it all the way down, seeing it worked fine.

The Piston Seal is Leather with some Impregnated fillers, the Round Washer pieces are a combination of BunaN with some Fabric reinforcement and everything looks OEM outside of the Rear Casters Modifications and Frame trimming to accommodate.
 
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The Piston Seal is Leather with some Impregnated fillers, the Round Washer pieces are a combination of BunaN with some Fabric reinforcement and everything looks OEM outside of the Rear Casters Modifications and Frame trimming to accommodate.

Would you know if I can purchase the seals in the pictures by them selves and with a tank seal?
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Would you know if I can purchase the seals in the pictures by them selves and with a tank seal?
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Not Sure what you mean by Tank Seal, Im sure you can but you would be better off just buying a Kit and refreshing the Valve components along with Pump Seals.
 
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Not Sure what you mean by Tank Seal, Im sure you can but you would be better off just buying a Kit and refreshing the Valve components along with Pump Seals.
So would I be looking for a kit for a Walker 93632 or 93633?

And what about the small grooves? I saw a guy use epoxy to fill them? Any thoughts?
I just don't want this leaking.

There is a small seal where the tank came away from the block. It may have been silicone?
 
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There is a small seal where the tank came away from the block. It may have been silicone?

I don't believe that to be factory, I don't use silicone, I recommend Loctite 518 as a precautionary sealant, And Very Little at that. If you have the tools and Mounting location to meet OEM torque you can get away without any sealant, but most shops I know use 518 to assist with any imperfections etc..
 
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