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GForceJunky

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Vintage Snap On stack with side cab. A bit rusty, but usable and the badges alone go for what he’s asking. Michigan FB marketplace

Do you have a link? Tried searching but couldn't find it. I assume it's long gone by now but maybe FB doesn't want me to see it.
 

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Nice grinder! Probably too heavy to ship up here for a reasonable price.

BTW, I did a LOT of grinding over several years in a prior life (job). Who needs a lamp on their grinder???

Mike
 

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Do you have a link? Tried searching but couldn't find it. I assume it's long gone by now but maybe FB doesn't want me to see it.

Sorry I tried searching it again a few hours after I originally posted it but it was no longer showing.
 

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I don't know if this is a deal, I know these Craftsman 'Speed Ratchets' are collectible.

Listed in the SE Michigan (Toledo) CL.
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macgee

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METAL SHOP TABLE & Sheet metal Shear, maybe a brake - $50 (Long Beach)

I can't get to this but this could be a smoking deal for someone who want sheet metal tools and a workbench for $50.

I think I'm seeing a hand shear bolted to the table and what I think is a brake (partial pic)?

Bonus if the those drawers are on ball bearing sliders making it a worthwhile work bench.

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/tls/d/long-beach-metal-shop-table/7283279991.html

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ehhhhhhhhhhhh... its a Harbor Freight press.... even at free the press plates are dangerous....

https://www.pirate4x4.com/threads/beware-the-hf-press-plates.1079382/

I bought a press a couple years ago (not harbor freight but not a name brand unit either) for scrap value and it didnt have press plates. Tried a couple times to buy used press plates WITHOUT the press from people on the internet and everybody wasnt willing to sell the plates separately (can't blame them). I ended up reading about HF press plates and that scared me into buying the SWAG press plates... they weren't cheap but I got the press cheap! :D
 
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those auctions are tough to win at a deal price. They get lots of eyes looking at them. Remember you also have to add taxes, and the 15% markup fees. So be smart. These military items have been well used in most cases as well. I would love to buy some of it and restore it for fun.
 

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those auctions are tough to win at a deal price. They get lots of eyes looking at them. Remember you also have to add taxes, and the 15% markup fees. So be smart. These military items have been well used in most cases as well. I would love to buy some of it and restore it for fun.

I agree in general, but there are exceptions. I work in aerospace, usually for Defense Dept. There is much eqmt that is essential for repair & maintenance yet might only get occasional use. There is also sometimes recreation or personnel specialty items that belong to Military bases. The 3 examples that I've come closest to purchasing: Smithy 1340 Lathe/Mill combo for $2100, vintage 30" Oliver band saw for $350, & a 1954 Steinway piano for $1500. As you said, taxes & fees can add up to 25% more.

My biggest trouble pulling the final trigger is usually arranging shipping; it often is more than the an item sells for! :eyecrazy:
If ever these things were next door instead of 750-1000miles away, I might actually buy. It can be fun to shop, too - like going to a virtual flea market.
 

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Are these blind/silent auctions, or is there live bidding?

If live, do you have to be logged in to see the auction happening? Right now, I see a list of upcoming items, and a tab for completed items (which you need to create an account and log in to view).

Mike
 

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Whoa, that package went for $2700+ !!!

Does anyone recall if those were empty or loaded with tools?

Mike

Thats actually pretty high after its all said and done, I guess its also relative depending what your local prices are. The total price after fees and taxes is $3,381. Those five cabinets will cost $675 each in a bulk purchase which is high for the area. I didn't see a loading/rigging fee?

Check out pickup requirements, they're pretty specific on what you need to for them to get loaded which could add up even more costs.

I would guess they're empty being laid down like that but if they are, that will be a total mess/nightmare trying to open the drawers and then reorganizing. Plus you have no idea what the damage there is and if everything works as it should making them pricey but they do look like in pretty good shape.
Companies who need a lot of cabinets for their business tend to be the ones who buy these kind of lot and that is certainly not a flipping price.

Close by on craigslist, here are examples of what you can buy locally.

https://prescott.craigslist.org/tls/d/prescott-tools-and-storage/7283277697.html

This is a double wide and twice the capacity of the ones in auction.

https://prescott.craigslist.org/tls/d/chino-valley-stanley-vidmar-large-tool/7284162747.html

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Plus I'd have to ship them from AZ to MA ($$$$)...

You guys seem to have nice stuff cheap out there. People around here tend to seriously overestimate the value of these things.

Mike
 

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I got some shorter 5 drawer vidmar chests loaded with random tools and stuff at an auction in cali. 250 each but had to buy all 5 which was a deal since I sold on ebay lots of stuff from them I didn't want or need and made a little over $1000 so almost got the chests for free and still have 4 and sold 1 of them for $500 to a friend which was a deal and put wheels on the other 4 and bolted them together as a pair.

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At $1475 it's not necessarily a deal, but wow, if I had the space and deep pockets I think this would be mine:

Sander Grinder 9" Wide Belt, Porter Cable G8, Wet / Dry

https://rochester.craigslist.org/tls/d/bergen-sander-grinder-wide-belt-porter/7279285483.html

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Thats probably going to sit around for a long time at that price but being a wet/dry and three phase, its a perfect candidate for using a VFD to give it variable speed and making it a very useful tool in the shop.

You would definitely want to check out the bearings first prior to giving any offer on it.
 

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I went to that gov planet auction site linked above. I then went to the shop eq section and there are a bunch of snap on toolboxes listed. Just scroll down.

https://www.govplanet.com/Shop,+Warehouse+&+Consumer

No idea how these auctions work. If somebody gets a deal let us know.

I too would love to hear from someone who's actually purchased something from this site...

I spent some time looking through the info available, and it appears to work similarly to (but not exactly like) eBay.

It appears to be all online (no in-person) bidding. There's a fixed auction time for each item (like a 2-hour window on a specific day), but you can pre-bid. You can enter a large bid and the software will incrementally raise bids by smaller amounts to keep you "just ahead" of other bidders (unless/until someone passes your large bid amount). The weird thing is that there appears to be a way that the system can extend the auction time window if bids are received near the end of the time limit.

As others have mentioned, you also have to pay taxes (unclear to me how much) and fees (15% for items under 10k). You have ** amount of time to pay and yy amount of time to pick up the item (or have a shipping company pick it up). Looks like you can request shipping quotes through them as well, but I don't know if you can do that before the sale.

Do I have all of that right?

Several tool boxes looked like they sold for OK deals, but not earth-shattering steals by any stretch of the imagination.

I did see that 2 different Terramite backhoes (prior rentals, clearly not government items) sold yesterday for between $9-10k. They were visually in great shape, but both had leaking transmissions, one had a leaking engine, and one had a leaking hydraulic valve.

These went for slightly less than a "hybrid" auction I watched recently (in-person, but with live online bidding), which sold two older small backhoes with more hours. (One of those was up on CL the next day for $2k more than it sold at the auction, clearly was just transported but had no service done to it in that amount of time, something to think about if buying from a dealer.)

Mike
 

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I too would love to hear from someone who's actually purchased something from this site...

I spent some time looking through the info available, and it appears to work similarly to (but not exactly like) eBay.

It appears to be all online (no in-person) bidding. There's a fixed auction time for each item (like a 2-hour window on a specific day), but you can pre-bid. You can enter a large bid and the software will incrementally raise bids by smaller amounts to keep you "just ahead" of other bidders (unless/until someone passes your large bid amount). The weird thing is that there appears to be a way that the system can extend the auction time window if bids are received near the end of the time limit.

As others have mentioned, you also have to pay taxes (unclear to me how much) and fees (15% for items under 10k). You have ** amount of time to pay and yy amount of time to pick up the item (or have a shipping company pick it up). Looks like you can request shipping quotes through them as well, but I don't know if you can do that before the sale.

Do I have all of that right?

Several tool boxes looked like they sold for OK deals, but not earth-shattering steals by any stretch of the imagination.

I did see that 2 different Terramite backhoes (prior rentals, clearly not government items) sold yesterday for between $9-10k. They were visually in great shape, but both had leaking transmissions, one had a leaking engine, and one had a leaking hydraulic valve.

These went for slightly less than a "hybrid" auction I watched recently (in-person, but with live online bidding), which sold two older small backhoes with more hours. (One of those was up on CL the next day for $2k more than it sold at the auction, clearly was just transported but had no service done to it in that amount of time, something to think about if buying from a dealer.)

Mike
I've won several auctions from GovPlanet and its predecessor GovLiquidation.

The old system under GovLiquidation was much more straightforward. Once Richie Bros (GovPlanet) took over there were many changes, the biggest being that everything became more centralized. For example, previously if the military had a pallet of stuff to get rid of, the auction was held and the pick-up point was the DRMO that processed it. So a pallet of medical machines processed at Ft Lewis in WA was sold at auction and you picked it up at Ft Lewis. Now everything is shipped to warehouses, auctioned, and IF you're local you go pick it up, if not you pay for packing and shipping from there to you. Some bigger items like trucks and trailers will still be sold in place.

Many items also require an End User Certificate (EUC). You can look that up- too much for here. Anyway, you're at the mercy of some clerks that will prepare the EUC, send it to you, you fill it out, send it back, wait for some clerk to review it, send it back to you for corrections, and the process repeats until it's perfect.

I've all but given up on these auctions due to the way they work now. If I see something interesting that's local, I might throw a bid at it.
 

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After auction is won you have to pay the premium which is 15% (under $10k), so add those two numbers together; once you have a total then add 8.70% local sales tax to it. Yes, you have to pay tax on the premium. I do not see a pick up/rigging fee so I believe all you have to pay is the above. Example: $5k bid won x $750 premium = $5,750 x 8.7% = $6,250.25 total (approx. 25% Vig); before shipping charges/costs.

The shipping quotes calculator on these auction gov. sites are typically crazy high prices that doesn't make sense pursuing but you never know. You can try Uship.com to find a cheaper pickup and deliver but they have to have the correct rig to be able to pick up the item. You'll also have to thoroughly trust them that they'll show up in the proper time frame to pick up your winnings to avoid penalties, load the item properly and deliver it. All of this paid & effort based on a couple of bad photos of a interested item that your not sure works.
 
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Thanks guys, that's kind of what I thought, lots of unknowns in terms of verifying quality of the items. Wasn't aware that you'd have to pay tax on the service fees as well, that certainly compounds things.

As for the shipping, I'd assume that going through "their" people would be a ripoff, and wouldn't be opposed to driving down to PA to pick up a good deal, but I'd need to upgrade my truck and trailer to pick up a backhoe...

Mike
 

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I have requested shipping thru their site, but only for a pickup truck. My understanding is that their system (at your request) sends out info about the bid item to a network of shippers; all can then provide a shipping price while confirming pick & drop details, etc. I received as many as 10 different prices (presumably from different carriers) long prior to the auction date; a few even requested further details about item weight or delivery flexibility prior to submitting bid. Seems pretty legit, if not exactly cheap (the shippers are trying to make a living too).
Note: an operable vehicle is much easier to load/unload (therefore CHEAPER) than an inoperable one, or a pallet full of machinery.
Note also: Ritchie Bros. does a LOT of large/heavy machinery auctions LIVE IN-PERSON (no online bidding), at least locally here in TX. But I don't need that kind of eqmt.
 
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