Lol. I'm well aware. I've owned many "modern vehicles". And still own a few. How is it different? You'll find out when you have to pay hundreds of dollars to find out how much oil is in the car. O2, knock, crank position, oil temp, coolant temp etc sensor failures won't damage the car. The ECU will compensate or just shut down. Seems silly to me to put a sensor on oil level. Just another example of over engineering something simple.Modern vehicles have many, many sensors, they all "don't last forever", how is an oil level sensor any different than the other critical sensors in the engine bay? Some will cost a lot more than a few hundred dollars to address, and could have significantly more consequence than the oil level.
I worked on a couple that must have been built when they switched from Standard to Metric... It was like someone had drawn a line from the front corner on one side to the rear corner on the other. Everything on one side of the line was Standard, the other side was Metric. It was more than a bit surreal.I do own one, an 84 LR90, I wouldn't want a modern one at least with the old ones they are simple, don't have electronics and parts are cheap, it isn't actually that unreliable (its never broken down in the 18 years I have had it) but service costs are quite high as there is always plenty of stuff that needs doing on it. It is terribly badly engineered though and you just know they never really thought about anything on there, just rummaged in the parts bins that were available and bodged the rest up until it sort of worked. Then shoved and under powered and 20 year outdated engine in the front.
Mine I went back to manual steering as I got fed up with some part of the power system failing every year or so and blowing all the ATF out all over the place.
You want a Toyota hilux for when its being fixed.
But the modern ones are terrible, I know of several who have had catastrophic engine failure (diesels) at like 50k or less and thats like a 10K bill to put in a recon on a 20k vehicle and they haven't fixed the issue so it can happen again.
Not that many current vehicles are actually any good, unless its got Toyota or Honda badges.
Not really.could have significantly more consequence than the oil level.
Most ECU's will shut down if low on oil too. Before that even happens though you will run like **** then right into limp mode because the VVT solenoid isn't working right or working at all because the oil pressure is too low from the low level.Lol. I'm well aware. I've owned many "modern vehicles". And still own a few. How is it different? You'll find out when you have to pay hundreds of dollars to find out how much oil is in the car. O2, knock, crank position, oil temp, coolant temp etc sensor failures won't damage the car. The ECU will compensate or just shut down. Seems silly to me to put a sensor on oil level. Just another example of over engineering something simple.
I guess this thread wouldn't exist if cars didn't have dipsticks, the OP wouldn't have had to struggle with checking the oil, then discovered bits that drill stainless better to try to see if his car had oil in it. Regardless, I'm very pleased with not getting under the hood to check the oil, I'll deal with it if the sensor fails.Lol. I'm well aware. I've owned many "modern vehicles". And still own a few. How is it different? You'll find out when you have to pay hundreds of dollars to find out how much oil is in the car. O2, knock, crank position, oil temp, coolant temp etc sensor failures won't damage the car. The ECU will compensate or just shut down. Seems silly to me to put a sensor on oil level. Just another example of over engineering something simple.