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terpfords

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My son had his tools stolen!

I had been buying him tools since he was a tot and some one broke into his truck an got most all his tools. Most all were Craftsman, but I have been reading that some of Craftsman wrenches and sockets cannot be gotten made in USA. What are the options for buying? There is a Cornwell guy a few towns over?
 
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You can get a lot of US made tools at a decent price from the likes of Wright, SK (as mentioned), Proto (some of them), and Armstrong. Those companies won't completely empty your wallet and you can be sure the product is high quality. Their websites are pretty easy to navigate so you can check them out if you want.
 

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S-K +4

Good mid grade step. Blackhawk, Williams, Blue-point, Silver Eagle are all top brand name tool company's lower tier. Just make sure when you buy they are made in USA :)


Most peoples jaws drop when they are used to buying craftsman tools, and they step on a dealer truck..SO, Cornwell, matco, mac. What you could get at sears with one paycheck, would cost your life savings on a Snap-On truck. Just make sure you check out come prices online, replacing a set with quality tools will be quite the expense.

When I first got into the automotive business, my first time on a snap-on truck my jaw hit the ground when I saw how expensive the tools where. But after awhile I got accustomed to getting off truck pulling my pants up from around my ankles.
 
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S-K +4

Most peoples jaws drop when they are used to buying craftsman tools, and they step on a dealer truck..SO, Cornwell, matco, mac. What you could get at sears with one paycheck, would cost your life savings on a Snap-On truck. Just make sure you get out come prices online, replacing a set with quality tools will be quite the expense.


You can buy a whole set of Craftsman sockets for the price of single one off the Snap On truck. Having said that, Snap On makes some really fine stuff.

5th vote for SK.

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Cornwell is good USA stuff, but not all Cornwell is USA. keep a sharp eye out.
Cornwell ratchets are awesome. also snap on and proto are good USA tools.
 

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Armstrong is another good one. All usa made

As well as, channellock, eklind, klein
 
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Also a fan of SK, some of the premium Cman stuff is still stamped USA.....

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If you want the best...buy Snap on. If you want the best but cant afford Snap on...buy used Snap on. Still the best you can buy, but at half the cost of retail. If that is still too much buy used Matco...profesional grade but doesn't hold its value like Snap on and sells used for much less. No reason to buy SK when you can buy truck quality all day long used. Truly professional quality at SK prices.

The trick is knowing where to put the money. Buy Snap on ratchets, wrenches, flare nut wrenches etc. For your chrome sockets and impacts, pliers, and extentions go with Craftsman. Put the money where it counts and save where you wont get hurt.
 

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Another big +1 for S-K.

Williams makes excellent wrenches too. I have the US made versions so I can't speak to the foreign made stuff, but from what I read they are very good too.

S-K wrenches are (in my estimation) just about the perfect wrench for my use. I have both the std and long patterns, but since much of the work I do is in cramped spaces, the slightly shorter std wrenches sometimes fit where others won't.

The stubbys and double box stubbys are also incredibly nice.

S-K pricing isn't Craftsman cheap, but IMO fit, finish and execution is much better than CMan. I have CMan RP and Pro wrenches too, so I'm definitely not a CMan hater, the S-K's and Williams are just nicer.

The moral is, since you'll pay slightly more than CMan prices, chances are you will feel good about getting your money's worth compared.

For all out brute strength, I'm not aware of any wrench with a beam as thick as Williams that is commonly available. I like the feel of the beam and the extra weight doesn't bother me at all.

I'm sure there are other great US made brands, but with the quality/price ratio of S-K and Williams, I think one would be insane to buy tools at truck prices. I know, the truck rolls up on the parking lot, saving you a trip etc.. but for the significant price difference I can eek out a trip to the front door step to save a bundle.

Many available online sources for S-K and Williams, many (most ?) with free shipping and quick delivery. The last time I ordered S-K and Williams items, I placed the orders on a Tuesday, got the S-K in hand Thursday, the Williams Friday of the same week.

Truck tools are good quality (mostly) but nowhere near higher quality enough over the S-K or Williams to warrant the extra expense no matter what you do with them... make a living or otherwise.
 

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I'd be willing to bet that most of the larger Craftsman mechanic sets are still chock-full of USA-made tools, and that's likely going to be your biggest bang-for-the-buck to do a bulk replacement.
 

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Are these USA made? Brand new Williams 3 pc. 1/4'', 3/8'', 1/2'' ratchet set for 47.50 and the shipping is free. :dunno:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-William...763?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4159244a3b

Did a bit of snooping for you.

http://www.snaponindustrialbrands.com/DSN/wwwsnaponindustrialbrandscom/Content/PDF/SNCAT1_147.pdf

You can see some of it's US made but the part where the ratchet appears doesn't really say anything so I'll go ahead and say Taiwan. Still good stuff.

http://www.snaponindustrialbrands.com/Content/25.htm

You can throw some product numbers for williams stuff you're looking at in that search bar from that link and check if it's US-made :thumbup:
 
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tooltopia is a great source for SK stuff

with williams you have to be careful, because they have taiwan made stuff that isn't good I would rather buy gearwrench if I was going that route

x2 on the tooltopia, i love that place, Just dont price S-K at Grainger or you will go into sticker shock.
 

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Williams has some good tools, some usa some not. You just have to be careful some really are junk.

My blackhawk full polish wrenches are sick, so are my sockets from them. They came in cheaper than the Cman pro and cman socket sets. Also they are all stamped USA
 

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Armstrong makes very good tool in the US as well. Channellock for the plier are all US made. Klien their plier and most their screw drivers at US made.

But you still can find USA made craftsmen if you go to the store. I was at sears yesterday, and they had the thin profile 60t ratchet set there and to my surprise they were made in the US, I also saw a set of metric and sae craftsmen ratcheting wrenches that were made in the USA. They had whole sets of craftsmen tool sets that were US made. With sears, you just have to look. Yes there are chinese tool, and taiwan tools, but there are US tools as well. They have a mix.

Also Napa has some US made tools as well with some German made ones.

But I would honestly not get hung up on finding a brand that makes all their tools in the US. Majority of them are mixed with US made, US made with international parts, and non US. Just look at sears and find the US tools, and the other tools that you can not find at sears that are US made, then fill them with Armstrong or napa.

Allot of the williams and KD tools are not made in the US, and the SK you might have a hard time finding. But unless you can see the packaging you will not always know where the tool comes form.
 
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USA made are not the only good tools. European made tools kick *** too. Lets not forget about the best pliers ever Knipex cobras. How about all the other amazing not usa brands. Facom, Rensteig, Wera, Wiha, Beta, NWS, HAZET.

Would be cool to keep money in the USA and out of other countries. Especially now a days.
 

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Craftsman sockets are still made in the USA. For now, at least. I'm a tool nerd, so I've tried quite a few other brands of sockets. I actually went back to Craftsman, because there really was no benefit to me of using other brands.

Sockets: I'd recommend buying a Craftsman socket set, then sell the ratchets on ebay or use them for backups. Also, I haven't seen a Craftsman socket set with Chinese ratchets yet. All the ones I've seen are all USA made.

Ratchet: Wright dual pawl and regular SK round heads are my personal favorite. Harry Epstein has the Wright 3490 for $25 + shipping. There are many SK ratchets on ebay.

Wrenches: Craftsman raised panels are still USA made. While lots of people like to bash them, they're actually not too bad, especially for the price. If you want to spend more, Wright are nice, as are SK. The SKs are a little on the short side, though.


Also, do you have any Menard's stores in your area? They focus on USA made products and have a lot of USA made tools under their house brand, Masterforce. The sockets and wrenches are all made by APEX and the screwdrivers by Pratt-Read, from what I've seen.
 

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I bought Cman raised panels, the 299pc socket set, the 95 pc impact set, and the USA ratcheting wrenches. 9 months ago all USA, Now who knows, and the quality of the sockets is way below my old Cman sockets.
 

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Wright for me.

I will also recommend Williams...IF it is US made. The trick is, if it has a 5 digit part number, its made over seas. Those ratchets posted are made overseas, the Williams USA made ratchets look exactly like Snap-on...because thats what they are.
 

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I tend to agree with stephan9666. For sockets, I think Craftsmans are "good enough." Still US made (as far as I know), although I have noticed they don't seem as nice as older ones. But they are readily available and replaceable. I haven't broken any of mine (although they're 20+ years old) and they fit well. Bang for the buck, Craftsman sockets are still a good buy IMHO. Ratchets? Not so much.

I wouldn't commit to any single brand. There's great quality AND value across many makes if you buy the right tools. Likewise, even the good brands have some crappy products, either bad quality or design.

Just hang out in the "Hot Deals" thread and go bankrupt one good deal at a time!
 

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I wouldn't commit to any single brand. There's great quality AND value across many makes if you buy the right tools. Likewise, even the good brands have some crappy products, either bad quality or design.

Just hang out in the "Hot Deals" thread and go bankrupt one good deal at a time!

That's the best advice. Tools from different brands tend to get along just fine in the toolbox. Pick the tool vs. the brand.
 

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My vote also goes to Epstein's. They have a great selection and pricing. I would vote for Klein and Channellock pliers, snap-on screwdrivers, and old US made Crescent adjustables. My wrenches, sockets and ratchets are all older Craftsman.
 

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getting hung up on where they're made helps your countries economy. x2 on the above comment as well

Craftsman sockets, craftsman wrenches, wright ratchets. channelock pliers/cutters, international tool boxes. williams screwdrivers. there ya go. buy us made craftsman.. get the "module" sets. beautiful!
 
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getting hung up on where they are made is the easiest way to get good tools though.

getting hung up on where they're made helps your countries economy. x2 on the above comment as well

Craftsman sockets, craftsman wrenches, wright ratchets. channelock pliers/cutters, international tool boxes. williams screwdrivers. there ya go. buy us made craftsman.. get the "module" sets. beautiful!

I agree that in general, the best tools in the world are made right here in the USA. On the other hand, there is plenty of good stuff made in Europe and even Asia. Gearwrench/KD, Sunex, Blue-Point, Silver Eagle, Irwin, Knipex, and many others offer good stuff that is made elsewhere. There is also plenty of **** tools made here.

Supporting the American economy is good as well, but I buy my tools to do work and make money, not support the economy. If I'm looking at an imported tool versus a domestic and they are both similar in quality, I will most likely buy the cheapest. That way I save money to have fun on the weekends.

That's just my 2 cents, if you want to go 100% American do it.
 

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I think my sk sockets are awesome have some superchrome wrenches from them as well and I bought some of them from my cornwell dealer he can get whatever I want for a reasonable prices and warranty them
 
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