Above 1200 Sq/FT Garage Refurb®

[NUTTSGT]

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Middle of the day progress pictures.

Garage recliner done, I drilled the holes,ground flat the welds, primed, painted and bolted on the casters.

I believe the chair is the correct height now, atleast for me when sitting. Next timeI get close to HF, I'll stop in and buy another mover's dolleys androb the casters off of it.


Next up, ready to get back to some paint work.

 

[Kevin54]

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Middle of the day progress pictures.

Garage recliner done, I drilled the holes,ground flat the welds, primed, painted and bolted on the casters.

I believe the chair is the correct height now, atleast for me when sitting. Next timeI get close to HF, I'll stop in and buy another mover's dolleys androb the casters off of it.


Next up, ready to get back to some paint work.

I'm right there with ya. That's my project for the day is to start painting the inside of the garage. I like the sign above the garage door. Original or repop?

 

[NUTTSGT]

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Original, I found it up in the garage attic a few years back. I had seen it many times but it was face down. I had stuff sitting on it across the rafters. I flipped it over and was like How I didn't break it when I put stuff on it or kneeling on it I don't know.

 

[IONH]

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What size steel did you use for the chair stand?

 

[NUTTSGT]

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What size steel did you use for the chair stand?

The two bottom pieces are 2 1/2"x 2 1/2" angle, 3/16" wall, stuff that I had. The rest of the angle is 1/8" wall and 1.5"x1.5" I added some small pieces of 1/8 steel to make the bottoms wide enough for the casters.

The 1 1/2" angle is plenty strong enough, the bigger stuff is just over kill. If you notice, the back of the frame is angled back to give it a deeper footprint rather just a square base. I did this be cause they recline back and didn't want to land on my head if I made the base to small.

 

[Vernmotor]

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Looks like you done all you could do with the time you had ? what a guy supost to do ?

 

[IONH]

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The two bottom pieces are 2 1/2"x 2 1/2" angle, 3/16" wall, stuff that I had. The rest of the angle is 1/8" wall and 1.5"x1.5" I added some small pieces of 1/8 steel to make the bottoms wide enough for the casters.

The 1 1/2" angle is plenty strong enough, the bigger stuff is just over kill. If you notice, the back of the frame is angled back to give it a deeper footprint rather just a square base. I did this be cause they recline back and didn't want to land on my head if I made the base to small.

Local True Value and even Home Depot typically sells 1/8" thick stuff. Think it'd manage? I've got a couple of old bucket seats as well which this would be nice to do.

 

[NUTTSGT]

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Looks like you done all you could do with the time you had ? what a guy supost to do ?

Some times it gets aggravating when I get nothing done. I did get to spend time with the wife the other day. . . .and it was in the garage.

Local True Value and even Home Depot typically sells 1/8" thick stuff. Think it'd manage? I've got a couple of old bucket seats as well which this would be nice to do.

I don't think you'll have any problems with it.

 

[sreno]

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I'm lovin' the projects! Fun and useful.

Now; how big a battery would be needed to keep the heated seats?

But seriously, good job!

Shawn


My Garage: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28505

 

[NUTTSGT]

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I'm lovin' the projects! Fun and useful.

Now; how big a battery would be needed to keep the heated seats?

But seriously, good job!

Shawn

No battery needed, just move closer to the wood burner !

Thanks.

 

[IONH]

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I'm lovin' the projects! Fun and useful.

Now; how big a battery would be needed to keep the heated seats?

That's actually a pretty cool idea.

 

[NUTTSGT]

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My parents came over and picked up their Troy-Bilt yard vac/mulcher today. This is what they left behind for me to work on and sell. I haven't done any research on it so I can't really answer any questions about it.

 

[NUTTSGT]

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It'll be a winter project to keep me busy when I'm not doing anything. I think I already have two projects to keep me busy. The first is painting, which most of you know about if you're reading this thread. The second project is one that I have mentioned before. I have been gathering pieces to work on it. Today I made a purchase that moves me closer to starting it.

16 sticks of 1/2" black pipe for new airlines. I have gathered about 75-80% of the fittings I need already. I spotted a Menard's ad that listed it on sale for $7.98/10'. HD has it for sale for 10.62/stick but they price match plus 10%, which comes out to $7.18 each.

Unfortunately, HD only had 10 peices in stock, so I picked up 6 pieces at Menard's along with a sales flyer and went back to HD to pick up the 10 pieces they had. I think I rough figured and it saved me 50 bucks.

On a side note, I also replaced one of my 4' T12 fixtures with one I already had. One side didn't work so it'll get chucked in the scrap.

 

[IONH]

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That work horse tractor looks fun to work on!

 

[DKerns]

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My parents came over and picked up their Troy-Bilt yard vac/mulcher today. This is what they left behind for me to work on and sell. I haven't done any research on it so I can't really answer any questions about it.

Visit Wheelhorseforum dot com...... You will find all the info you need on that tractor
!!

 

[akdiesel]

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NUTTSGT

Nice color combo on the wall.

 

[IONH]

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Visit Wheelhorseforum dot com...... You will find all the info you need on that tractor
!!

I was going to post that but noticed this is a "Work Horse" and not a "Wheel Horse".

 

[NUTTSGT]

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Visit Wheelhorseforum dot com...... You will find all the info you need on that tractor
!!

I did find out it is 1984 model year only. The Workhorses were a attempt to compete with big box style of tractors. Sounds like they were built about the same but used a Briggs instead. I did replace the fuel line on it but it needs a battery, this one loaded it the "****" level.

 

[NUTTSGT]

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NUTTSGT

Nice color combo on the wall.

Thanks, typical Ford guy paint scheme.

I was going to post that but noticed this is a "Work Horse" and not a "Wheel Horse".

It's a Workhorse made by Wheelhorse. They only made them a few years.

It lived it's first few years spreading fertilizer for a lawn care business, then it's last few years outside. If I keep it, it won't be mowing but maybe I'll pick up a snow blowe and delegate it to that duty.

 

[NUTTSGT]

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The Workhorse is backburnered slightly as new project has risen. We bought new SCBA bottles at the FD, my full time position. We have to swap out the valves from the old bottles, replace a few O-rings and put them in the new bottles. The valves are torqued to 70 ft/lbs, so you can't hold them by hand removing/replacing the valves.

I bought a rubber strap wrench, we did two bottles and the strap ripped. It was a Husky and lifetime guaranteed. I took it back got another and picked up a spare (less than $5).

We thought about another way to hold the bottle in a clamp. I started to work on that last night.

It took a few repeated cuts trying to get the size right. It'll get a liner, piece top & bottom, but has to have enough bite to hold the bottle equally on all sides.

 

[NUTTSGT]

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The rubber liner, is a few pieces of scrap I picked out of the dumpster when we remodel our exercise room. It was a rubber flooring product and I have a few pieces under the feet of my compressor that are holding up fine.
You can also see that I drilled all the way through (long drill bit) both 2x6s and added some all thread to clamp the two halves.

Once they are together, it reminds me of an old stockade. It does fit around my neck, I checked. lol

 

[NUTTSGT]

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In the last picture, you can see one of our Survivair bottles that has already had the valve removed. It still needs a hole drilled in it to render it "DESTROYED". It'll go back to work when I'm done.

This bottle is a carbon fiber wrapped aluminum bottle and it is filled to 4500 PSI. It gives the user about 45 minutes of working time, during strenuous work, it'll last about 20-30 minutes depending on the user. That bottle is light and a great improvement over the old steel bottles that are mostly getting phased out of the fire service. Believe it or not, the air that gets compressed into the bottle weighs more than the bare bottle itself, not counting the valve.

Test fitting the bottle.

I'm going to add some back support for the rear of the bottle.

 

[IONH]

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Sorry Eric, I must have missed what the goal of this bottle is.

 

[xjjeepman]

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Sorry Eric, I must have missed what the goal of this bottle is.

Its for his work, hes a fire fighter. Im assuming its an O2 tank.. Cool contraption you made to swap the valves!

 

[Kevin54]

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Eric.....Add some large washers under the nuts on the wood. If not the nuts will start pulling down in and it may split your wood out. Good idea to hold them though. If you find that they start to slip in the rubber, you could always get some of the 1" wide sandpaper and glue it to the rubber to help grip.

 

[NUTTSGT]

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Sorry Eric, I must have missed what the goal of this bottle is.

Its for his work, hes a fire fighter. Im assuming its an O2 tank.. Cool contraption you made to swap the valves!

xj is correct, we are swapping the old valves into the new bottles. This is to merely hold an old bottle (pictured) when we remove the valve. Once the valve is out, we're putting a few new o-rings in, then this will hold the new bottles while installing the valves. (we bought new bottles with out valves). This is nothing more than a bottle clamp.

xj is incorrect, a basic misconception. SCBA bottles are filled with compressed air, not O2.

 

[NUTTSGT]

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Eric.....Add some large washers under the nuts on the wood. If not the nuts will start pulling down in and it may split your wood out. Good idea to hold them though. If you find that they start to slip in the rubber, you could always get some of the 1" wide sandpaper and glue it to the rubber to help grip.

Already on that Kevin. Those pictures were mainly mock up to make sure it'll work, sizes correct.

Tonight I counter sunk the nuts and added loctite to keep them from coming undone. This of course is on the bottom of the all thread in the base. I then drilled through the base, into the nut and all thread for a cotter to to keep the nut/rod from spinning. This should work as I don't believe the nut on the top of the clamp is going to be much more than hand tight.


If you look closely, you can see the end on the cotter pin.

A front view of the clamp, you'll notice a plywood base under it.

 

[NUTTSGT]

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From the side, you can see I also added a rear support for the bottle to make it easier to work on.

Then a view from above to give an overall view.

Something you might notice by the white sticker (hydrostatic test sticker) is a different color on the bottle. That area of the bottle is under the strap and protected from the heat of the fire. That is color of the bottle when they are new.

 

[xjjeepman]

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xj is correct, we are swapping the old valves into the new bottles. This is to merely hold an old bottle (pictured) when we remove the valve. Once the valve is out, we're putting a few new o-rings in, then this will hold the new bottles while installing the valves. (we bought new bottles with out valves). This is nothing more than a bottle clamp.

xj is incorrect, a basic misconception. SCBA bottles are filled with compressed air, not O2.

LoL close I guess, so it's CO2 then? Still a form of oxygen right? So u can breath in a fire?

 

[NUTTSGT]

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LoL close I guess, so it's CO2 then? Still a form of oxygen right? So u can breath in a fire?

LOL not CO2, that's out in the red cylinder with a hose. . . .fire extinguisher. . .



We have a compressor at work that we fill up 4 large mother bottles. From those bottles, we fill the smaller bottles for the SCBA packs. In case I've anybody else, maybe this picture will help.
This is what the SCBA pack looks like from the back. That's me opening the valve on the bottle.

This is the facepiece mask, the black straps are part of the SCBA pack that holds the bottle. This is Julio and the Chief.

If you notice the hose going from the facepiece to a small black box, that box is a PASS device. A personal safety device, that will flash a yellow and red light and chirp when activated if a firefighter doesn't move for a short time 15-30 seconds. It can also be set off manually.

 

[akdiesel]

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The new masks are a big improvement from the older ones although it was fun to take the flex hose from the regulator on the old MSA packs and fart into the other firefighters mask.
Nice design for holding the bottles.

 

[xjjeepman]

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Thx for the clarification, my brain wasnt working on the CO2 part.

 

[Kevin54]

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LOL not CO2, that's out in the red cylinder with a hose. . . .fire extinguisher. . .



We have a compressor at work that we fill up 4 large mother bottles. From those bottles, we fill the smaller bottles for the SCBA packs. In case I've anybody else, maybe this picture will help.
This is what the SCBA pack looks like from the back. That's me opening the valve on the bottle.

This is the facepiece mask, the black straps are part of the SCBA pack that holds the bottle. This is Julio and the Chief.

If you notice the hose going from the facepiece to a small black box, that box is a PASS device. A personal safety device, that will flash a yellow and red light and chirp when activated if a firefighter doesn't move for a short time 15-30 seconds. It can also be set off manually.

They've sure come a long way over the years. Kudos to you for the job that you do

The new masks are a big improvement from the older ones although it was fun to take the flex hose from the regulator on the old MSA packs and fart into the other firefighters mask.
Nice design for holding the bottles.

That reminds me of some stupid movie I watched a while back. They send a couple of astronaut into space to go to Mars I believe and they are supposed to be in chambers to sleep until they get there. This one ******* didn't make it into the chamber. Anyways, towards the end he has to save this other astronauts life and there is only enough oxygen for one person, so he hooks a hose from his suit to the other astronauts helmet. Part way back the dumb one rips a huge old fart and goes directly into the guys helmet. Of course he can't get away from it.

 

[NUTTSGT]

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The new masks are a big improvement from the older ones although it was fun to take the flex hose from the regulator on the old MSA packs and fart into the other firefighters mask.
Nice design for holding the bottles.

LOL, they had Scotts before I started and they were the same way. The chief (he was a Lt at the time) was eating Doritos when one of the new guys were practicing search and rescue, masked but not on air. He grabbed the hose and gave a nice big Dorito belch in the hose.

 

[NUTTSGT]

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Thx for the clarification, my brain wasnt working on the CO2 part.

No problem.

They've sure come a long way over the years. Kudos to you for the job that you do

Thank you Kevin.

 

[IONH]

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Nice of you to work on the bottle project on the side.

 

[utahdog2003]

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You mentioned the hydrostatic test sticker. Did you need to reinspect the tanks after removing the old valves or do you just go by the test sticker date and assume the tanks are still safe? I know that there are some SCUBA shops that won't install a new first stage regulator valve on a dive tank without retesting the tank and certifying the tank as structurally stable when fitted with the new valve. I think that also keeps the new(er) valve from needing to be removed prematurely to inspect a tank when the inspection sticker expires and the tank needs a test. Dive shops can be pretty picky about tanks that they refill, but then again, your firefighting tanks may need to meet different standards as they aren't operated at underwater pressures but do of course see use in extreme heat.

I wonder how much of the testing procedures and even the equipment designs overlap between diving gear and firefighting gear. Hmmm...

Blah Blah Blah.... On to the important stuff. Did you save the cooler on the back of that Cherokee or not?

 

[NUTTSGT]

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Nice of you to work on the bottle project on the side.

You guys appreciate the pictures and story telling more than the politicians appreciate the job we do.

 

[NUTTSGT]

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You mentioned the hydrostatic test sticker. Did you need to reinspect the tanks after removing the old valves or do you just go by the test sticker date and assume the tanks are still safe? I know that there are some SCUBA shops that won't install a new first stage regulator valve on a dive tank without retesting the tank and certifying the tank as structurally stable when fitted with the new valve. I think that also keeps the new(er) valve from needing to be removed prematurely to inspect a tank when the inspection sticker expires and the tank needs a test. Dive shops can be pretty picky about tanks that they refill, but then again, your firefighting tanks may need to meet different standards as they aren't operated at underwater pressures but do of course see use in extreme heat.

I wonder how much of the testing procedures and even the equipment designs overlap between diving gear and firefighting gear. Hmmm...

Blah Blah Blah.... On to the important stuff. Did you save the cooler on the back of that Cherokee or not?

First things first, I believe the cooler had heat damage and was trashed, contents I don't know about.

I can't blame the dive shops wanting to reinspect/hydro a bottle, it's their **** on the line if something goes wrong and less wear on the components. Here, I take care of the air pack stuff, whether is testing, taking a face piece apart to replace something & clean it or replacing valves as shown, it's my responsibilty and I take it seriously.

Whether it be SCUBA diving 75 feet down or in the middle of a rocking house fire, if you have problems with you air supply, you can't just call a time out. The guys I work with, expect, respect and trust me enough not to question me when working on their facepices or the airpacks.

 

[Kevin54]

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LOL, they had Scotts before I started and they were the same way. The chief (he was a Lt at the time) was eating Doritos when one of the new guys were practicing search and rescue, masked but not on air. He grabbed the hose and gave a nice big Dorito belch in the hose.

Oh man...it's too early in the morning to laugh