1Garageman
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Looking great! And the weather is supposed to be pretty good for the week!
Above 1200 Sq/FT Garage Refurb®
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
jbmatth
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Still chipping away, keep after it, we are all rooting for you to get to a good point this year.
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Yeppers, I checked the weather out yesterday, looking good. Since it rained yesterday, I ran the plate compactor over it first thing.
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Fill and prep work finished ahead of schedule. I had the plate compactor rented for a week, which gave me till Friday. It went back today and only got charged for a two rental. . . .refund of $62.I also prepped the majority of the apron out front too. This will get poured at a later date. Waiting to hear back from my BIL about doing the concrete.
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Since I took the plate compactor back this afternoon, I made a trip to Lowe's to grab one section of the build.
Never in my life would I have thought about spending the extra money to buy Zip sheathing. When it's $23/sheet, it's out of my price range, especially for a garage. However, when regular 7/16" OSB is $2 a sheet less, I figured it was a no brainier. I did have to buy the tape and roller but with a 10% military discount and the refund at Sunbelt rentals, it covered the accessories.
I picked up 22 sheets would should be enough or a couple of sheets off.
Never in my life would I have thought about spending the extra money to buy Zip sheathing. When it's $23/sheet, it's out of my price range, especially for a garage. However, when regular 7/16" OSB is $2 a sheet less, I figured it was a no brainier. I did have to buy the tape and roller but with a 10% military discount and the refund at Sunbelt rentals, it covered the accessories.
I picked up 22 sheets would should be enough or a couple of sheets off.
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Picked up lumber for the side walls.
18. 2x6x14. For the top, bottom and double top plate
40. 2x6x10. For wall studs
3. 2x10x10. For the O/H header
Plus a few cans of Great Stuff spray foam.
$1008. Ouch. Fortunately, I had a stack of rebates to use. After scanning them, $410.
18. 2x6x14. For the top, bottom and double top plate
40. 2x6x10. For wall studs
3. 2x10x10. For the O/H header
Plus a few cans of Great Stuff spray foam.
$1008. Ouch. Fortunately, I had a stack of rebates to use. After scanning them, $410.
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Now, back a few days ago, I wasn't sure how far I was going to get and if I would even get framed up before winter. I started to think about sealing the block up so they wouldn't freeze and break block if they got water in them.
I came up with a plan to stick a section of foam in the top core, spray foam shut and cap with the PT sill wrapped with plastic. So I decided to do something similar to prevent air movement in the block.
So here we have foam blocks, those blocks in the bottom of the top core and covered with spray foam.
I came up with a plan to stick a section of foam in the top core, spray foam shut and cap with the PT sill wrapped with plastic. So I decided to do something similar to prevent air movement in the block.
So here we have foam blocks, those blocks in the bottom of the top core and covered with spray foam.
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After spending too long foaming the block, i got the sill plate down. As a deterrent for them to not walk off, I did tighten the bolts down. Im not sure if you can see the sill seal under the sill plate.
Then it was swapping backhoe and bucket for mower deck . I spent the evening mowing and chopping the fallen leaves. I did stretch out the remainder of the tile I have. I can go from the corner of the garage to the drop by the road with about 5-6 feet to spare.
Then it was swapping backhoe and bucket for mower deck . I spent the evening mowing and chopping the fallen leaves. I did stretch out the remainder of the tile I have. I can go from the corner of the garage to the drop by the road with about 5-6 feet to spare.
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Strouty
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Lumber is ridiculous right now, no question about it. Looking like you are making good progress.
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Im trying to get stuff done and have taken time off work but other stuff comes into play, along with some overtime.
Worked a 48, Wednesday/Thursday and off Friday. Back to my shift for Saturday and off today. However, we are short guys and have a promotional test for the firefighters. I'm go in to cover one of the on duty guys so he can take the test.
Just trying to plug away.
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So off at 0700, come home eat breakfast and start for a bit till I go back at noon.
Ran a few more tapcons in the exterior foam insulation and finished slapping some foundation coating on it. Why ? Because I think it's a good idea and shouldn't hurt. It'll also hide the blue colored board.
Then I popped the corner trim off the siding. This will allow me to sheath across from new to old
Ran a few more tapcons in the exterior foam insulation and finished slapping some foundation coating on it. Why ? Because I think it's a good idea and shouldn't hurt. It'll also hide the blue colored board.
Then I popped the corner trim off the siding. This will allow me to sheath across from new to old
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It's been a while since I framed something and it showed this afternoon. Took me some time to get rolling and I wish I had a nice flat surface to frame it on.
The first wall is up but it's going to need some adjustments to account for the lower roof line. I'll be cutting it away tomorrow.
The first wall is up but it's going to need some adjustments to account for the lower roof line. I'll be cutting it away tomorrow.
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How about now ?
xtremek
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THey're all there now. Noticed the change last night. So now the question, the door between the parts of the garage. Is the sill plate there to keep everything in line while you put the wall up? Or did I forget this from an earlier post?
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No sill plate but there is a bottom plate. It'll get cut out in the near future before the concrete goes in. The gap between the two is deep as the foundation is. It's going to get filled with concrete when we pour.
Concrete on order for Saturday morning.
fourbyford
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You're making great progress!!
Great to hear you'll have concrete on Saturday. It's amazing how quickly things can turn around. A couple weeks ago, you weren't sure you'd make any progress before the bad weather sets in... now, I'm thinking you may get it dried in. Wish I lived closer... I'd be glad to lend a hand.
Anyways, keep on keeping on... you'll get it!
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Great to hear you'll have concrete on Saturday. It's amazing how quickly things can turn around. A couple weeks ago, you weren't sure you'd make any progress before the bad weather sets in... now, I'm thinking you may get it dried in. Wish I lived closer... I'd be glad to lend a hand.
Anyways, keep on keeping on... you'll get it!
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xtremek
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I think I get it now. I think I was off by a block height.
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Had a little issue today and the neighbor came over to lend a hand.
The floor will get poured over those blocks at the door opening, both man & O/H.
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Uploading from phone.. . .. I've been taking pictures with my phone, uploading them and then typing on the PC. It's an extra step but alot faster for me to type on a keyboard rather than fat fingers on a phone.
Here's the south end/back wall going up. I made a trip to the chiropractor this morning and felt great when I walked out. However, I thing lifting this end wall, undid what Chip realigned.
I spent some time before this wall trimming the roof back on the shed roof of the garage. Started with one DeWalt 18V battery, it's old and didn't last. So I grabbed another, same situation. The third battery was a newer battery.
Once I cut the roof away, I could plumb up the wall, which included cutting the nails that held both sections together. Wouldn't you know, I got it where I wanted started nailing and realized, it moved to it's previous location. Back at it with the recip saw to cut the nails out.
This is a close up of the block for the man door. You can see the gap that will be filled with concrete on Saturday. I need to put a small bit of expansion joint on the edges. More than likely, I'll use some sill seal for that job.
Here's the south end/back wall going up. I made a trip to the chiropractor this morning and felt great when I walked out. However, I thing lifting this end wall, undid what Chip realigned.
I spent some time before this wall trimming the roof back on the shed roof of the garage. Started with one DeWalt 18V battery, it's old and didn't last. So I grabbed another, same situation. The third battery was a newer battery.
Once I cut the roof away, I could plumb up the wall, which included cutting the nails that held both sections together. Wouldn't you know, I got it where I wanted started nailing and realized, it moved to it's previous location. Back at it with the recip saw to cut the nails out.
This is a close up of the block for the man door. You can see the gap that will be filled with concrete on Saturday. I need to put a small bit of expansion joint on the edges. More than likely, I'll use some sill seal for that job.
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This is the wall I could have used a hand with today. Fortunately, the neighbor saw a cloud of dust and came over and helped.
This wall has the sheathing sticking out of a slight over lap and the end of the back wall wasn't true yet. Couple that with it needing to be lifted up over the J-bolts and slide down, it became an issue.
I had raised up, was trying to move it down but one of the J-bolts dug into the bottom plate. A little gust of wind and it started going over, I never tried to catch it. It went down in the yard and didn't hurt a thing. I grabbed it flipped it back over, pulled it back into the garage. My neighbor walked over to help. Together, it went right up, slide down and right over the J-bolts.
Allen has some sentimental attachment to my garage, his parents used to own it years ago. He keeps a keen eye on the place and I get to hear some stories of him and his buddies stealing beer out of the coolers when he Dad had the station and convenience store.
A couple of more sheets on the back wall, hopefully to stiffening it up for the next couple of days.
Looking at it from the back side and the middle of the road.
Going to be a couple of days before the next update, we have some stuff going on. So hang tight and I hope the rain passes by on Thursday.
This wall has the sheathing sticking out of a slight over lap and the end of the back wall wasn't true yet. Couple that with it needing to be lifted up over the J-bolts and slide down, it became an issue.
I had raised up, was trying to move it down but one of the J-bolts dug into the bottom plate. A little gust of wind and it started going over, I never tried to catch it. It went down in the yard and didn't hurt a thing. I grabbed it flipped it back over, pulled it back into the garage. My neighbor walked over to help. Together, it went right up, slide down and right over the J-bolts.
Allen has some sentimental attachment to my garage, his parents used to own it years ago. He keeps a keen eye on the place and I get to hear some stories of him and his buddies stealing beer out of the coolers when he Dad had the station and convenience store.
A couple of more sheets on the back wall, hopefully to stiffening it up for the next couple of days.
Looking at it from the back side and the middle of the road.
Going to be a couple of days before the next update, we have some stuff going on. So hang tight and I hope the rain passes by on Thursday.
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619DioFan
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Looking good. I am curious though as to why you don't use your tractor to set those walls in place and hold them since you are working alone.
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OOPS ! Instead of quoting you, I edited your post and started typing a response in the box. What a ******* I can be.
I considered that in the beginning and that was the plan. However, I'm building wall within the confined space of the garage addition itself. That doesn't lend itself to fitting the wall and JD in there.
The back wall probably would have worked, but it wasn't bad to lift up. I suppose I could "pull" them up from the outside ? Just one more longer section at 14'.
We'll see, maybe I'll try to go with the original plan...Honestly, I'm so used to working by myself, that it was a passing thought with the first wall.
captain14
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The thing is not to hurt yourself lifting something too heavy or trying to catch it if the wind pushes it. You don’t want to set yourself back even further on the build.
Does Someone check on you occasionally when your working by yourself?
I was up on my garage roof Last week repairing some shingle nail pops and reattaching the ridge vent. I was working off the ground ladder on my neighbors side. Hopefully he looked out occasionally.
It’s been a long while, but I had to climb a Tower during a fire wearing full PPE to supervise opening the flat roof. I was tired after I got back down.
Does Someone check on you occasionally when your working by yourself?
I was up on my garage roof Last week repairing some shingle nail pops and reattaching the ridge vent. I was working off the ground ladder on my neighbors side. Hopefully he looked out occasionally.
It’s been a long while, but I had to climb a Tower during a fire wearing full PPE to supervise opening the flat roof. I was tired after I got back down.
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I have 2 neighbors that watch the progress and see what is going on daily. Another couple of neighbors that watch occasionally. Then a whole slew of people who drive by and check it out. I also have my cell phone.
Being on a state route, there's plenty of people driving by and it's a corner lot. So there is plenty of passerbys that see it as well.
Usually, a deputy (one of the wife's boys) stop or drive by to check progress. Or when the EMS crews are on a call, they check out things too.
So I'm under a constant watchful eye
Being on a state route, there's plenty of people driving by and it's a corner lot. So there is plenty of passerbys that see it as well.
Usually, a deputy (one of the wife's boys) stop or drive by to check progress. Or when the EMS crews are on a call, they check out things too.
So I'm under a constant watchful eye
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xtremek
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Yeah, at my age, I think I would have tried to figure out how to use the JD. The older I get, the more I want to use my head and not my back. I'm not saying I'm successful. Nice work, as always.
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jbmatth
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You do have a lot of people keeping tabs on you. I on the other hand can work for hours and never see another soul. Maybe someone is watching me and I can't see them, Halloween is getting close I suppose never know who is out in the woods.
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It was part of the plan but I dropped it I do need to try to use it for the last long wall section.
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Hopefully, they don't come out wearing a hockey mask and carrying a machete.
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Came home from a family thing and got the other half of the long wall up. I wanted to get a few more sheets of Zip on the walls but ...
We had a failure. ...
My 15 year old Porter-Cable framing nailer died. The piston stop came apart.
So doing the math or atleast I thought and ended buying a new Metabo HPT framing nailer. However, since it was already at it's lowest price, Lowes's doesn't give a Veteran discount on those items. Doesn't matter, I needed it.
We had a failure. ...
My 15 year old Porter-Cable framing nailer died. The piston stop came apart.
So doing the math or atleast I thought and ended buying a new Metabo HPT framing nailer. However, since it was already at it's lowest price, Lowes's doesn't give a Veteran discount on those items. Doesn't matter, I needed it.
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Curious on your opinion on the framing nailer, I haven't used one in close to 20 years and am going to need one soon. Do you think the battery powered ones are worth getting or is air the only way to go? I have Dewalt 20v stuff and have been eyeballing theirs.
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Both mine are pneumatic, I can't personally attest to battery units.
Yes, it would be nice not dragging a hose around but if you were doing alot of work, I hope you have a few batteries.
I'm pretty sure the Metabo is lighter than the Porter-Cable. I would think a small thin airline would help when you're pulling it around.
My Dewalt stuff is 18V so I have 2 good batteries and another 2-3 three that are about wiped out. I'd like to switch to 20V stuff but my tools are fine and find it hard to replace good tools. I've thought of buying one at a time but still that would be more expensive.
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The project is going along nicely. ***** about the nailer. Interesting about the Veterans discount didn't know that, unfortunately I am not a veteran so it doesn't effect me either way.
I been down that 18v to 20v rabbit hole. Last year I bit and got the 20v drill/driver combo with a fast charger, then I bought the 18v to 20v adapter. That works great for the 18v circular saw, Gooseneck light and drill. I have plenty of batteries for the 18v that still work so like you hard to give up on that platform completely.
I been down that 18v to 20v rabbit hole. Last year I bit and got the 20v drill/driver combo with a fast charger, then I bought the 18v to 20v adapter. That works great for the 18v circular saw, Gooseneck light and drill. I have plenty of batteries for the 18v that still work so like you hard to give up on that platform completely.
ronjon1190
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I have an 18v trim nailer, and it works great. Mine is a Ryobi. It really chews through batteries, and when the batteries start getting weak, it stops driving consistently. I would think that in a framing nailer, this would be amplified. Between my brother, My father, and I, we have about 20 batteries, so it is easy to remedy the problem. Other than that issue, I love it.
Johanfpa
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If you can get a Paslode IM350 I can highly recommend it, I got one to do all the framing on my barn conversion and it worked well.
Had a Dewalt battery operated finishing nailer but quickly replaced it with a Paslode finishing nail gun because as other have already said the Dewalt ate batteries. Not sure how it does with the newer more powerful batteries, this was an 18V 2 Amp battery.
You are doing a great job, just like all the work you did on the original building!
Had a Dewalt battery operated finishing nailer but quickly replaced it with a Paslode finishing nail gun because as other have already said the Dewalt ate batteries. Not sure how it does with the newer more powerful batteries, this was an 18V 2 Amp battery.
You are doing a great job, just like all the work you did on the original building!
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After trying out the Metabo HPT nailer for part of a day, it went back. In the paperwork, it claims a 30 satisfaction guarantee, return to vendor. Which I did and decided to give them a second chance. I've heard such great things about the Metabo's I took a chance and hoped that I just got a bad one.
The second new one run without a hiccup. The first one jammed and jammed. Even oiling it up a few times. The last time it jammed, that was enough.
Concrete is in, we had an issue with one spot not wanting to set up and hit it too soon with the power trowel. WE finished hand trowelling it just as it got dark, a little after 7pm. Concrete was down by 0930. It'll get cut and sealed today.
As I was putting the power trowel in the garage, using the JD1025 with pallet forks, I had another issue. Remember me saying it's be one thing after another ?
Truth be told this was my fault. As it was cold yesterday morning, I had the wood burner going, so we could get some heat in us after pouring and between rounds with the trowel. I partially shut the O/H door. Throughout the day, it got pushed back up where we could walk in/out without ducking. I clearly forgot this and with the ROP bar up, I hit the bottom panel of the door. It broke the interior foam, bent the exterior metal and not sure what all.
I was so tired last time, I didn't give a **** or get upset. I pushed it back out, closed the door and locked it up. I told my BIL, well, I'll just order a new bottom panel for this door when I order the O/H door for the addition.
Soooo, if increased lumber prices weren't enough to contend with, this project has cost me a new framing nailer, bottom door section and it's not finished yet. Some pictures to come later today.
The second new one run without a hiccup. The first one jammed and jammed. Even oiling it up a few times. The last time it jammed, that was enough.
Concrete is in, we had an issue with one spot not wanting to set up and hit it too soon with the power trowel. WE finished hand trowelling it just as it got dark, a little after 7pm. Concrete was down by 0930. It'll get cut and sealed today.
As I was putting the power trowel in the garage, using the JD1025 with pallet forks, I had another issue. Remember me saying it's be one thing after another ?
Truth be told this was my fault. As it was cold yesterday morning, I had the wood burner going, so we could get some heat in us after pouring and between rounds with the trowel. I partially shut the O/H door. Throughout the day, it got pushed back up where we could walk in/out without ducking. I clearly forgot this and with the ROP bar up, I hit the bottom panel of the door. It broke the interior foam, bent the exterior metal and not sure what all.
I was so tired last time, I didn't give a **** or get upset. I pushed it back out, closed the door and locked it up. I told my BIL, well, I'll just order a new bottom panel for this door when I order the O/H door for the addition.
Soooo, if increased lumber prices weren't enough to contend with, this project has cost me a new framing nailer, bottom door section and it's not finished yet. Some pictures to come later today.
PhantomEB
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Watching my buddy and his crew frame my garage, I learned the easy and faster way of sheeting a wall....do it all laying down.
krcoomer
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My $0.02 on the nailers is it depends on your needs. In my remodeling/handyman business I have used both. The battery units are great to have for small work but if I am framing a room addition or sheathing a roof, I would rather drag the hose. If you go with a battery unit, take an extra battery when you go into a tight space or on a roof unless you want to go fetch one for the last half dozen nails.
Jeff Ivers
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Eric,
I have been following your thread for a long time, but just finished going back and looking at the pics from the beginning of the thread. I am terrible about just looking at the pics and not reading all the text. You have a very neat place and have completed a lot of great projects. Sorry to hear about the setbacks on your new addition. I am anxious to see a pic of the completed concrete. Do you think you will get the addition weather tight before bad weather becomes the norm? Will the addition also be heated by your wood stove?
I have been following your thread for a long time, but just finished going back and looking at the pics from the beginning of the thread. I am terrible about just looking at the pics and not reading all the text. You have a very neat place and have completed a lot of great projects. Sorry to hear about the setbacks on your new addition. I am anxious to see a pic of the completed concrete. Do you think you will get the addition weather tight before bad weather becomes the norm? Will the addition also be heated by your wood stove?