Above 1200 Sq/FT Garage Refurb®

[1Garageman]

The garage is looking great and almost done!

What kind of air lines are you going to run? Pipe or that "Rapid Air" system?
I am considering the Rapid Air system when I re-do my garage this summer.

 

[NUTTSGT]

The garage is looking great and almost done!

What kind of air lines are you going to run? Pipe or that "Rapid Air" system?
I am considering the Rapid Air system when I re-do my garage this summer.

Thanks.

I'm going to use black pipe like I have in the rest of the garage. I still have atleast one stick of it left already painted. I know I probably have enough fittings too.

So I might have to buy two 10' sticks, quick connects, hose reel with short hose and 2 ball valves. I'll pick up stuff as I go and spread it out.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Thanks.

I'm going to use black pipe like I have in the rest of the garage. I still have atleast one stick of it left already painted. I know I probably have enough fittings too.

So I might have to buy two 10' sticks, quick connects, hose reel with short hose and 2 ball valves. I'll pick up stuff as I go and spread it out.

Not much progress in the last few days. I did pick up a hose reel and some Flexzilla to "re-hose" it. Along with a bag of some valves and fittings.

 

[Wreckster23]

Oh, never thought of that. Cheaper to rehose a reel?

 

[NUTTSGT]

Its a cheaper reel that I bought at Rural King for $60. The Flex Zilla hose was $35 at Menards.

I wanted a black reel and this hose so I am trying out the cheaper reel.

Time will tell.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Trying to get some ceiling up today.

 

[bugnut]

Eric, all is looking good! Snow melt and warmer weather is coming!

 

[NUTTSGT]

I had to pull the ceiling track bracket out to hang this piece. I couldn't figure out how to do it otherwise by myself. It still was a PITA working above the horizontal track and trying to weasel the ends into the j-Channel.

After playing some ladder tag and doing a little extra trimming, I got it in.

After the piece I went in the house for a few hours as the daughter had brought their Lab out when they went out to eat. I got to play with their knucklehead while he was there.

After supper, I came back out and hung 2 more pieces and screwed all three up completely. 1 more full sheet and I have to rip another to fill the small gap along the wall. That last full sheet will present a challenge as I can't pull the track bracket out of that side.

 

[Strouty]

Can you make a slit in the sheet and slide it up over the vertical piece? If not I would just rip two sheets and make a cutout in both to fit the piece, otherwise it won't be as clean looking.

 

[xtremek]

UGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Locate the hole in the sheet metal. Tape the top of the track. Disconnect the track from the bracket. Pull the track to the left. Slide the sheet up through the gap?

 

[drivesitfar]

did you save the measurements from the insulation? or I guess it wouldn't hurt to re measure. I like the idea of removing the door track and drilling a hole in the last piece of metal and just pushing it up to the ceiling.

of course that probably would involve removing the entire door and since you still might have snow outside and freezing temps maybe leave this piece off til summer?

or can you remove the support from above and just install the piece (after the door and track are removed and drill a hole thru the metal after its in place and re install support bracket.

it's probably a lot of work so cutting a slot might not be a bad idea.

good luck

 

[NUTTSGT]

Sorry guys, I would have gotten to your replies yesterday at work as time allowed but we got busy in the morning and followed up with a house fire. By the time I got supper, shower, did some laundry and sat down to relax it was after 8pm.

Can you make a slit in the sheet and slide it up over the vertical piece? If not I would just rip two sheets and make a cutout in both to fit the piece, otherwise it won't be as clean looking.

I want to avoid slitting it. I have the other side caulked up around the bracket. It loos fine, I did the house garage the same way. . . nobody ever looks up.

UGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Locate the hole in the sheet metal. Tape the top of the track. Disconnect the track from the bracket. Pull the track to the left. Slide the sheet up through the gap?

I'll be sliding the sheet up over the bracket on this side.

did you save the measurements from the insulation? or I guess it wouldn't hurt to re measure. I like the idea of removing the door track and drilling a hole in the last piece of metal and just pushing it up to the ceiling.

of course that probably would involve removing the entire door and since you still might have snow outside and freezing temps maybe leave this piece off til summer?

or can you remove the support from above and just install the piece (after the door and track are removed and drill a hole thru the metal after its in place and re install support bracket.

it's probably a lot of work so cutting a slot might not be a bad idea.

good luck

The sheet metal fits slightly different from the insulation and metal sheet sizes are different than the insulation sheets. 4'x8' to 36"x14'

The only thig I have to work the hole in the sheet around is the metal. I can move the metal sheet over the horizontal track bracket.

I'll try to get more pictures when I finish (hopefully) the metal on the ceiling today.

 

[drivesitfar]

I still wish you the best and GOOD LUCK too.

I kinda figured since you had already done the other side that you had a plan even though it might not be easy.

I guess I more or less thought i'd mention that hangin the ceiling before putting in the garage door might be easier if a member is doing this during the summer and not winter when it was better to get the garage door on.

just curious since most of the fireman I know say they rarely have a fire to put out just how many you have a month/year? most of their calls seem to be medical or shootings or accidents as they are first responders around here.

glad you did the job and made it home safe BTW.

 

[NUTTSGT]

I still wish you the best and GOOD LUCK too.

I kinda figured since you had already done the other side that you had a plan even though it might not be easy.

I guess I more or less thought i'd mention that hangin the ceiling before putting in the garage door might be easier if a member is doing this during the summer and not winter when it was better to get the garage door on.

just curious since most of the fireman I know say they rarely have a fire to put out just how many you have a month/year? most of their calls seem to be medical or shootings or accidents as they are first responders around here.

glad you did the job and made it home safe BTW.

Wasn't planning on doing the ceiling this soon after paying "overbudget" for the lumber. Once I got the Menard's rebates in hand, I was like game on. Ceiling going up.

I think we had 50 some structure fires last year, which is a ton. We'll be taking over EMS for the city in November. . . and there is not a plan in place. I won't even go there on that subject.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Ceiling done. I decided to cheat a bit.


Something is missing here as the sheet went in place.

Yep, took the track completely off.

 

[Strouty]

Looks like that was definitely the best solution. Looks great now!

 

[xtremek]

The ceiling looks really nice. Well done.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Then I had to rip a sheet down the length to get two smaller pieces out of it. It didn't go so well and I was getting aggravated with it. I put some scratches in the last piece but I touched them up with some Rustoleum. I know it's not the correct color but I doubt many will notice it.

Tomorrow, I need to caulk around that track bracket and start hanging the lights. I also have to help hang a new garage door opener at my daughter's house. We'll see how long that takes before I get started on the lights.

I also got an email that I won a Cman tool box off Govdeals. It's just a top box and has some wear. It's going to cost me more in gas than what I have to pay for it. . . . $13.30

 

[NUTTSGT]

Looks like that was definitely the best solution. Looks great now!

The ceiling looks really nice. Well done.

Doggone, you guys are on the ball.

Thanks for the compliments.

 

[Wreckster23]

100% keeping this ceiling idea in the back of my mind should I ever get a chance to use it. Looks fantastic.

 

[NUTTSGT]

100% keeping this ceiling idea in the back of my mind should I ever get a chance to use it. Looks fantastic.

Thanks. I was worried about the screws pulling the metal into the insulation and creating waves. Fortunately, I see none and glad I put the insulation up as another layer. Gives me R19 (fiberglass) + R5 (polyiso) = R24 in theory.

 

[drivesitfar]

nice work on the metal ceiling.

if that scratch and paint bothers you later I bet you can find a white to match and give it a shot this summer.

good luck with the lights and compressor lines.

 

[classicminidiy]

I had to pull the ceiling track bracket out to hang this piece. I couldn't figure out how to do it otherwise by myself. It still was a PITA working above the horizontal track and trying to weasel the ends into the j-Channel.

After playing some ladder tag and doing a little extra trimming, I got it in.


After the piece I went in the house for a few hours as the daughter had brought their Lab out when they went out to eat. I got to play with their knucklehead while he was there.

After supper, I came back out and hung 2 more pieces and screwed all three up completely. 1 more full sheet and I have to rip another to fill the small gap along the wall. That last full sheet will present a challenge as I can't pull the track bracket out of that side.

I really like the look of the metal roof. Was gonna do drywall but maybe I will do this instead!

 

[1Garageman]

The garage is looking super good!

 

[NUTTSGT]

nice work on the metal ceiling.

if that scratch and paint bothers you later I bet you can find a white to match and give it a shot this summer.

good luck with the lights and compressor lines.

The garage is looking super good!

Thanks guys. No progress today, got pulled in a direction first thing this morning that I was not planning. All is good and I went to pick up that box I bought on Govdeals.

Let's put it this way, the box is rough and I need a slide for it. One thing I didn't realize, is the box is 16" deep rather than the normal 12" deep box. I sent an email to SB&D reference trying to locate a new friction slide. It's also going to need a little more than some paint work.

 

[NUTTSGT]

I really like the look of the metal roof. Was gonna do drywall but maybe I will do this instead!

The outright cost of the metal may be more but put it up and screw it fast and it's done. No, mudding/taping and sanding or priming/painting.


If you're in an attached garage, you maybe be required by your AHJ to put drywall up or atleast a layer up first.

 

[krcoomer]

Thanks guys. No progress today, got pulled in a direction first thing this morning that I was not planning. All is good and I went to pick up that box I bought on Govdeals.

Let's put it this way, the box is rough and I need a slide for it. One thing I didn't realize, is the box is 16" deep rather than the normal 12" deep box. I sent an email to SB&D reference trying to locate a new friction slide. It's also going to need a little more than some paint work.

When I worked for Sears in the 80's, I believe Waterloo was the manufacturer of their boxes.

As for the ceiling scratches, I used to deliver and set up large quilting frames for a sewing shop that I did some maintenance work for. Every one of them had what looked like at least a few spots of hot weld spatter on the finished surface. I always made sure I had a nail polish type bottle of Rustoleum's appliance touch up with me. It may not have been an exact match but I always figured it looked better than a black streak on a 12K piece of equipment

 

[Wreckster23]

Co-worker had a box just like that. Sturdy.

Back when I was a mechanic, I purchased a couple boxes. Brand new and shiny, set it up proudly. Came back after the weekend with the top all scratched up. The mechanic next to me would place all his heavy tools or parts on the lid of my box while he was working. Told him to quit it as of course the scratches started to rust. He never did. Shops are just like that.

It's still scratched. But I wanted to sand it down quick, quick blast of primer than rubber coating over top. will look good and can actually handle having something set on it

 

[drivesitfar]

if you need help restoring or just making that old Craftsman box usable make a few posts in the vintage tool section in show your vintage tool box or I think there is at least one craftsman toolbox thread and more than a few members should (hopefully they will see your post) help you if you might need a little.

or check the threads out and see who posts a lot or has rebuilt one or more of these and PM him.

it's not my favorite tool box, but it does have it's use and there are a ton of guys that love old Craftsman stuff. I still grab a Craftsman wrench even though I've got several more expensive brands to choose from.

 

[NUTTSGT]

When I worked for Sears in the 80's, I believe Waterloo was the manufacturer of their boxes.

As for the ceiling scratches, I used to deliver and set up large quilting frames for a sewing shop that I did some maintenance work for. Every one of them had what looked like at least a few spots of hot weld spatter on the finished surface. I always made sure I had a nail polish type bottle of Rustoleum's appliance touch up with me. It may not have been an exact match but I always figured it looked better than a black streak on a 12K piece of equipment

I touched up the scratches the other day. Granted it doesn't match but it'll be fine. It's close enough for me.

Once the lights are up, it'll be harder to see them when you look up towards the lights.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Co-worker had a box just like that. Sturdy.

Back when I was a mechanic, I purchased a couple boxes. Brand new and shiny, set it up proudly. Came back after the weekend with the top all scratched up. The mechanic next to me would place all his heavy tools or parts on the lid of my box while he was working. Told him to quit it as of course the scratches started to rust. He never did. Shops are just like that.

It's still scratched. But I wanted to sand it down quick, quick blast of primer than rubber coating over top. will look good and can actually handle having something set on it

if you need help restoring or just making that old Craftsman box usable make a few posts in the vintage tool section in show your vintage tool box or I think there is at least one craftsman toolbox thread and more than a few members should (hopefully they will see your post) help you if you might need a little.

or check the threads out and see who posts a lot or has rebuilt one or more of these and PM him.

it's not my favorite tool box, but it does have it's use and there are a ton of guys that love old Craftsman stuff. I still grab a Craftsman wrench even though I've got several more expensive brands to choose from.

Thanks guys. The box is rougher than what I thought it was going to be. I believe it's life is going to be a metal working/welding box. Keep all stuff pertaining to that stuff in it.

I'll got some pic uploaded that I'll share.

 

[drivesitfar]

since you didn't pay much for that old toolbox you can use as storage until you might find something better. also if you need ideas for metal cabinets I started a thread on them and wood cabinets in vintage tools if you want to take a look.

also the vintage toolbox thread will have you wanting more than a few of these old boxes.

have a great weekend and don't work too hard.

 

[NUTTSGT]

The project for today was getting the lights up. However, I wanted to get working on the electrical raceway and decided to spilt my time between the two of them.

I got the race way done but started off making some simple 2x4 blocks to mount the strip lights on. 6" long, they will fit between the ribs of the metal ceiling and allow the fixtures to clear the ribs as well. I put a coat of primer on them and one coat of paint on them.

Later on, I was getting ready to start on the lights, I realized I had a problem. Somehow, which I think I know what happened, I bought the wrong lights. I bought 8' T12 twin bulb fixtures instead of these.

Normally these fixtures are $1/ea more but since I no longer had my receipt, I got the sale price and it cost me $21 instead of four dollars.

 

[NUTTSGT]

The race way frame work was put up and painted when the walls were painted. I just needed to make a cover for it. Pull out a sheet of aluminum diamond plate and the plasma cutter. Also since the beams for the pallet racking were laying close by, I put them to use.

After it was cut to size, I stuck the ends in the metal brake to create some rigidity. Drilled some holes and attached the hinge with some aluminum rivets.

After some trimming and adding some magnetic clasps, it was done.

 

[NUTTSGT]

since you didn't pay much for that old toolbox you can use as storage until you might find something better. also if you need ideas for metal cabinets I started a thread on them and wood cabinets in vintage tools if you want to take a look.

also the vintage toolbox thread will have you wanting more than a few of these old boxes.

have a great weekend and don't work too hard.

Thanks Drives. This box will get a little attention, some sanding and some paint. Fortunately, this isn't my first go-around with repainting a box.


I already had the problem drawer out when I took this picture. It has a bent slide. It's missing a lock which is not a big deal. I have extra locks, non-matching number to he rest of mine but it's okay.

From this angle you can see the damage to the lid.

A little bit of junk on the inside. A socket box missing the latch. . . still fine by me. A bent and poorly repaired cover stop/prop. Somebody riveted it back together backwards. That is fixed.

Some of the bigger drawers have surface rust. It'll get cleaned, primed and probably covered in bedliner.

This box came out of a bus garage. I'm guessing it was in a service truck due to the damage and rust. What you can't see is the torched bottom of the box. It was bolted somewhere and someone got free-willy with the torch and cutting the bolts off. It may just get a whole new bottom piece welded on it rather than try to patch in some holes.

 

[NUTTSGT]

A quick pic with the cell phone.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Well, it's not a 10mm wrench but it's an 11mm. Cornwell CWS 11. This was under the bottom drawer of the box.

I'd guess that wrench new is more than the $13.30 I paid for the box.

 

[NUTTSGT]

So, I figured while I have the neighbors drywall lift, I'd put it to good use. It does an awesome job of lift and holding the 8' fixtures in place while lagging them into the trusses.

After getting them all up, wired and installing bulbs, I flipped the breaker and switch on.

It kind of hard to tell by this picture.

I think this one illustrates the new lights an dhow much better they are than the temp lights I had up.

 

[cbacres]

Nice job on the access panel.

 

[casmurbax]

Eric, that looks terrific. Nice job.