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wingnut65, welding is easy if you take your time, and have everything setup to the correct settings. Of course wire feed is the way to go with the gas bottle. Just practice up on some scrap metal. When doing the panels make sure to do small sections to prevent heat warpage, and of course you can always grind it back off if its not right. I have faith that you can do a good job.
jagmandave the lift is moving up close to the top. The wind has broken my electric pole just below ground ( it was a old pole). So now in the process of removing the old pole and replacing with a better pole. The good thing around here is when the electric company replaces the old pole with new they will give the poles to the land owner. I got a better pole from my cousin. Its still 25 feet long, and heavy. So I still need to dig a trench and do all the new wiring, and lights. I do have a snap-on lift in the other barn, I can roll it into this barn. I'll have 10 1/2 feet height, which is a little short, but the other barn is only 8 feet high. I can get under the car but you have to sit in a chair.
 
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Just read thru your thread bugthug
sounds like you take most of the problems in stride.
Good for you, life is too short to be pissed all day
glad to hear the charger was unharmed. Is the door fixed yet?

How many yards of concrete did you have poured??
looks like a huge slab from the pic's.

will be following along
Good luck

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don long, such a honor to have you visit my thread. With a person that has so much to do, I really feel blessed that you and others can take a few minutes out of there busy day to see what I have going on.
They brought out 3 cement trucks, so I'm thinking about 10 yards. I might have them pour a concrete ramp up to the slab at a latter day.
The door has been ordered just waiting on the door guy to bring it by. Was very fortunate that more damage wasn't done, considering I have the 48 hearse on a lift just a couple of feet inside the door. It could of hit that and who knows what the out come might be. But the Dodge pretty much was un scathed.
Just waiting on the crew to come back out today and finish the north end. Of course the wind is blowing gus up to 35mph all day. Not sure if that's too much for them to handle 10ft pieces of metal. OK will update more tonight.
 
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OK, finally the crew came out and finished enclosing the end with the garage doors. I will post pictures later but have a quick question about how to adjust these doors.
They are the type that most storage units have, that roll up. The problem is they aren't adjusted very well and one side is about 3/4 of inch off the floor, while the other side is smashed on the floor. When it rains the water just runs in like no door at all. I see some kind of allen head bolt on the top left side, that has some kind of ratchet looking wheel that is attached to the torsion spring. It says the door must be up, so I'm guessing by turning the allen head bolt is how its adjusted. Any body mess with this type of door? How are they adjusted? Didn't come with any instructions, and I'm afraid to mess with it cause I know its under a lot of pressure. Thanks.
 

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I hope that you haven't messed with that ratchet looking sprocket attached to the spring. It sounds like the tensioner. look at the end where the bar is mounted to the rail that needs to go up or down to align with the floor

Good luck

Ps sorry I'm so late with the info

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Thanks Don,
I called the door company, surprise the door is made in the USA. They said the only adjustment is a allen head screw that will adjust the tension on how fast the door opens, and that it might level the seal out a little.
Been having all kinds of problems with the end of this building, the Coast to Coast Company are becoming an enemy. The last crew that came out just couldn't seem to measure. My doors are screwed in at a 45* toenail, and they are barley attached to the frame. One side of the metal stud is about 2" higher than the other side which cause's the metal skin not to align properly. I told the crew the frame work was not squared before they skinned it, they try to blame the other crew that came out before them. I can't see how it can be so far off when they have a level floor to work off of. I haven't paid for this last part yet, trying to get them to come out and make it right. What would you guys do to handle this? take a discount, or make them redo the whole end?
As you can see on the walk in door, the bottom is 10 3/4 and the top is 1ft. That makes it 1 1/4 over a 6ft high door. I have water on my floor every time it rains, from the front to the back.:mad:
 

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Yes on the Kansas winds. I was stationed at Fort Riley for a while. Learned to hate going into them certain times of the year. I like the metal building. The concrete floor is a big plus and a good choice. I see your Route 66 sign. Wondering if your as insane over old 66 as I and wife are. The only vacations we take anymore is "somewhere" on Route 66.
Your going to have a super shop there. I am anxious to see your set up when it is all done. Good Job!!!

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Well the Coast to Coast Carport people are suppose to be back out tomorrow. They said they are sending a manager or someone that can make a decision on how to fix this mess.
After messing with the set screw on the tensioner, I think the adjustment is better as far as open and close but like John said the frame is out of level. I think the frame has to come down and they need to change the square frame because all the holes they put in it putting the screws in at a 45*. What a mess:dunno:
 
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OOOOOOOK, its been a long strange trip on this carport.:wtf: The Coast -to- Coast Carport crew cannot read a tape measure, the whole 10' with the doors are ALL out of square. The 10' they added on the end is probably 3" jacked to the left, the walk in door is only 6' tall and its wall is over 1 1/2" off. It leaks water from the doors, and must be a couple of screw holes up in the middle of the roof:headscrat.
Well the C2C Carport said they were going to send a crew out to fix the last 10' and the big doors. They sent a crew out 2 weeks ago and the chief said they would have to send another crew out, well they sent out another crew and DEJAVU, said same thing.
Well I finally got ahold of the manager and told her it needs to be fixed or they will receive a certified letter of a small claim court date. The manager said after talking with the last crew chief, they were going to take all the metal off the building and square up the frame, put new metal on it and fix the garage doors. I said well if they were going to redo the whole building, whynot build me a new building? and I would pay for another garage door and pay for the metal frame. The manager said NO they were going to fix the existing building! I just figured it would be easier and coast them less to add onto the existing building, they would be out not having to do the back wall. I'm waiting to hear back from her:(
 

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OK, its been awhile since I updated this mess. On the last visit they started out with the same MO, saying a supervisor needed to come and look at it because the roof trusses were made in Texas and some were made in Arkansas by another company and that is why the roof doesn't line up. Yeah right, I went in the house and made the phone call to the manager and told them I had enough, the building had to go... so short story longer they took the building down and off to Texas it went. BYE BYE, ADIOS, .
So now I have to build another building, let the fun begin.
 

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Yes I signed a contract today for a 40 X 60 X 14. Should be going up in about a month. It will have a 20 X 60 lean2 on the back side. So now I'm excited again, its like a black cloud has blown away. After about three months finally got ALL my money from that company. Please think a lot, before having this company put a building up for you, Coast to Coast, maybe they can do good work but I would use someone else.
 
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OK, signed the contract to have my new building built. Looks like its going to be a 60 X 60, or started out as a 46 X 60 with a 20 X 60 lean2.
This is the beginning, a big 48' trailer just barely made it in my driveway.
 

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Now after a couple week wait, its Barn Buildin Time. Part of the barn is going to sit where the other one once was. The crew didn't have the proper tools to drill the holes in the concrete. The bolts they sent were 5/8, and they didn't have a bit. So I told them I had the 1/2 bolts from the other building that I bought and they could use them , but I wanted credit for the other ones because they cost me a lot of money. They said OK, then their drill motor didn't have the hammer action, so they used my new drill motor:dunno: So after several hours going thru 3 drill bits, they finally get that part done.
Of course being a nice guy that I need to change, I bought them Sonic Cokes everyday but the last.
 

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The other 30 X 40 section is in the dirt with the holes being dugged. Had a small rock in the way that had to go, it was were the corner pole needed to be:shocking:
ROCK ON OUT OF THERE:thumbup:
 

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OK time for some pole setting like the Indy 500. The barnyard animals were keeping an eye on whats going on.
I had the County Sheriff stop by and asked me if I could help them out, that a neighbor guy died and no one to feed the donkeys. Being the nice guy that I need to change, I said sure. Well now the llamas are afraid of them and won't go anywhere close to the donkeys. For some city people, these are called Jesus donkeys. The reason is you can see a darker hair across the shoulders and down the middle of the back, it looks like a cross. Since its the season, its suppose to be what Mary and Joseph made the trip on. Merry Christmas
 

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Some more of the construction, up with the trusses. They built the whole barn the old fashion way, with hammer and strong back. Probably the last of these kind of builders. Guess you don't have to worry about the air tools not working:dunno:
 

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Rest of the trusses.
 

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A few windows a couple slider doors then time for some skin. Put the insulation on, I hope this helps out, cause its not cheap!
 

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I was intrigued by this drill attachment, I never seen one like this. It sure cut the metal like butter.
 

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more skin to win! This is the lean2 side. I ended up dividing this section in half, so its opened to the main building. Then the other end is opened on the west end.
 

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getting there, the piece around the window got bent over and had to make another one. The bad thing is its one of the longer pieces.
 

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Working on the west end. At present it has a 12' slider door, one walk out door and a window. The other side is going to be left open, to share with the animals, but that might change. That's some prime real estate, might need to put a door and enclose it in?
 
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From the inside looking up
 

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Just about done with the skinin. Finished, took them about 7 days, with the three guys. It rained on day , they went back to Oklahoma and came back the next day. The weather was pretty decent for December, one day was real nice, the rest was COLDER than a well diggers ***.
I do like my barn, but they sure left a mess when they left. The last day they worked till about 9pm. We had to use truck headlights so they could finish. I wish I would of made them clean up better:mad: But I like my barn:thumbup:
 

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Looks great! I noticed one little thing. ..... you are now short on concrete. .lol..
 

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OK to start the purple bug is a "fat chick" 74, that belonged to a dear friend of mine that died about 6 months ago, son needed money.
The Jersey hippy bus is a 64 shagging wagon, I just sold it a couple of weeks ago and it now resides in Rolla, Mo.
The 63, is a 15 window that is my new baby, the money from the 64 will help me to start buying parts for it. The PO had cut the rear trans axle to use for a 3 wheeler trike. That's probably the only reason it was still around, and sold at auction. The PO had died and they sold everything, this bus wasn't even on the sale bill and the very last thing sold. This went in my favor as far as price went.
The last picture is it before the new owner came and got it.

First of all this comment made me laugh, Rolla is where I went to college and I go back there often. Maybe if I'm lucky I'll see it running around. Secondly, I really like all of the "Junk Yard Art" you have around the place. Third, one shop wasn't enough for you so you had to make me feel bad and build a second huge shop. Fourth that metal shear is a Malco Metal Shear, not bad from what I've seen from them and it would be handy to not have to pack another tool around. Lastly, I like all of the cars you have and have been a closet bug/VW fanatic for a few years now but have never actually made the decision to buy one but they just look like so much fun!
 
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jbm, most people that have VW's usually own more than one if they have room to keep them. They are a lot of fun to drive around and they can take almost any punishment people dish out to them. They are the most iconic car in the world, I would say in front of Coca Cola, or right after it.:thumbup:
Weather is nice today so I need to get out there and get some stuff moved around before it gets cold again.
Are you going to the Kansas Sunflower Swap meet that's coming up February 6 and 7? I guess after 40 years this is the last one they will do. Its hard to believe I have participated for around 35 years myself. They say most of the Flying A Ford club people are all getting too old to do the work, and the building has been sold. It sure was a money maker for them, they sold out for probably the last 15 years at least. I have a booth in the main building and invite anyone reading this to stop by and visit me, I'm at C-37.
 
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Thanks Rian, I'll tell ya that I fell so thankful for what I have. I just hope I can stay healthy enough to really enjoy it.:thumbup:
 

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Herb
The garage is looking sporty with the stripe thing going on.
Shouldn't hear that you don't have enough room for a while!
the place looks quite spacious
Glad to hear that you stuck to your guns and made the other builder make you whole after all the trouble he caused.
Hope you are stayin warm out there on the plains (83 here today so I got some work done to the vette.)
How far are you from Arkansas?? I need to make a road trip out that way and thought that I would stop by if it's not too far

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OK heres my imitation of a garage. 4 Mexicans, four days, for four thousand dollars. It should of taken them about 4 hours, but do to 40 mph wind they had to do a little bit everyday for 4 days. Its 30'X31'. I plan on building a half wall in the back to keep some of the weather out. I also need to put some 4x4 post with cement to keep the wind from blowing it to Nebraska.

How did that Cement hold up?
I bet that blew away in the wind as well.
Concrete would have done a better job.:thumbup:
 
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Don, thanks for stopping by the site. Yes it was a real pain dealing with the first garage people, wasted:) 11 months of my life that I won't get back.:) But the bright side is, I went back with twice the size on the second one. That will show them who's boss.
You stopping by would be a great honor, I'm not sure on how to be a gracious host, but I will do my best.
I'm about 35 miles South East of Wichita, and about 10 miles from the Oklahoma border, and 10 miles East of I-35 that runs straight down from Wichita to Oklahoma City. I would guess about 3 hours from Arkansas maybe 4 Just let me know when you are heading out my way, maybe find a auction you would be interested in?
Justanoldguy, I tell ya we used cement, concrete and a bobcat to hold down the frame of that building for a few days with 60 to 70mph winds, it was pretty hairy for a few days. We had really weird weather last year, lot of high wind but NO tornado warnings around within a 100 miles. I can't remember that ever happening.:thumbup:
Now that bobcat is holding DOWN the frame not up?
 

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Re: 4,by four,for four

OK, I'm still alive!. been doing a little work on the barn, I got some more concrete poured. These are some people I haven't used before, but I think he did a nice job. Here's a few pictures..
The other side is slowly being filled with sand, this side is next. It needs to be brought up to grade to align with the other floor.
 

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OK, I'm getting ready to put some electric in. This is how we pulled the main wire under the ground. It went well until we got to the 90, then needed a little help from the Kubota.
The brown outlets and switches were found in a box of stuff from a auction from last year. Almost forgot I had these. The 4 way is a Bryant, I think its made for hospital use, but I like the just 3 wires on the back. I have 10 of these.
Oh that damn donkey. I had a friend drop off a pair of "Jesus" donkeys. The original owner had died and no one left to take care of them. Sooo.. good hearted BUGTHUG ended up with them. I thought I wanted them for my llama's, but they were scared to death of them. So they needed to go to a new home. Well the jenny (girl) went pretty easy but the jack, had other plans. Man he went crazy running into the fence and ****** up his nose. We got a rope around him and the fight was on. He held his own for awhile then he just got tired and submitted. They both stayed together and went to a nice farm with sheep!:)
 

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Re: 4,by four,for four

this is the Wichita "A's" swap meet in Kansas. Its the last one held here after 40years. Its going to be held in a casino next year. I guess all the members of the club are getting to old to run the meet, so they made arrangements with some other people to take it over. Its going to be held at the Kansas Star Casino, just off of I35, North of the OK line about 20 miles.
 

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