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I have the 20v line, for better or worse, and I NEED an ultra portable air inflator; not that POS bulky brick you currently sell. Multiple tool manufacturers are producing them now, get off your ashe Dewalt, I needed this like yesterday!

LETS GO! :mad:
 

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I hear that. I’m on the dewalt 20v lineup here too and am starting to wish I wasn’t. Milwaukee and even Ryobi have all kinds of stuff I would like to have, but ***** when I have good dewalt batteries.
Harbor freight is even outpacing dewalt.
 

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While we are at it, why can't I buy a small battery powered Dewalt inverter? All the other brands have them in the 150W-400W range. The only one Dewalt sells is a monster that takes 4 batteries and costs $500.
 

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Not sure if you’ve ever used the DeWalt inflator (or what your need is for it to be “ultra portable”) but it’s in a different league than those other little toys posted, and it’s not that much bigger at all than the pistol grip-style units. It’s faster, quieter, inflates to higher PSI, has a higher duty cycle, also functions as a high volume/low pressure inflator and blower with the included connector hose, and even has an LED light. I’ve used several other units and got rid of them all when I bought my DeWalt.
 

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Buy the ryobi and get the $12 adapter from eBay or Amazon. I have a old ryobi reciprocating saw I use for yard work and the batteries have crapped out but I have a ton of Dewalt so I just bought the adapter.
 

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Buy the ryobi and get the $12 adapter from eBay or Amazon. I have a old ryobi reciprocating saw I use for yard work and the batteries have crapped out but I have a ton of Dewalt so I just bought the adapter.
I like that!
 

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Buy the ryobi and get the $12 adapter from eBay or Amazon. I have a old ryobi reciprocating saw I use for yard work and the batteries have crapped out but I have a ton of Dewalt so I just bought the adapter.
This X's2
this is what I did, bought a Dewalt 20v battery to Ryobi one+ adapter for ~$25 delivered
opened up a whole new world of power tools.
I wanted to use the Ryobi caulkgun on my project the cheap ones were ******* me off.
it's a very nice tool.. IMO.

I've since bought a Ryobi cordless glue gun for the chirstmas decorations.
and a Ryobi cordless handvac to get around the tree..

don't use the dewalt battereies to they're empty. the adapter and ryobi tools may not contain the same circuit protections as Dewalt does for low voltage use..
but for the odds and ends of handy ryobi tools..
I like Ryobi's fan for camping next..

as for you search for a hand held air compressor.. I like my Dewalt 20v compressor.. it's a real tool, runs well. YMMV
 

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The Dewalt blower and five amp battery is fine for taking care of our 24x340’ patio, the front drive, and the garage floor.

I think they make a larger one that takes the flexvolt battery, or, I think they make a six volt battery if one finds the five volt inadequate.
 
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I hear that. I’m on the dewalt 20v lineup here too and am starting to wish I wasn’t. Milwaukee and even Ryobi have all kinds of stuff I would like to have, but ***** when I have good dewalt batteries.
Harbor freight is even outpacing dewalt.

My buddy has Milwaukee, and he has all sorts of cool stuff, super jelious of some of his toys.

Buy the ryobi and get the $12 adapter from eBay or Amazon. I have a old ryobi reciprocating saw I use for yard work and the
batteries have crapped out but I have a ton of Dewalt so I just bought the adapter.

Do you happen to have a link?

Not sure if you’ve ever used the DeWalt inflator (or what your need is for it to be “ultra portable”) but it’s in a different league than those other little toys posted.

Toys are find, I need something small enough to walk onto the starting grid of a race track without issue. I just need something to inflate up to 18 psi max!

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My buddy has Milwaukee, and he has all sorts of cool stuff, super jelious of some of his toys.



Do you happen to have a link?



Toys are find, I need something small enough to walk onto the starting grid of a race track without issue. I just need something to inflate up to 18 psi max!

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The seller on eBay i bought from is out of stock and was actually $14.99. Thought was a little cheaper but those were the 18v to 20v Dewalt adapters I bought my father-in-law.
Here is a link for another seller:

If you just search for " ryobi Dewalt adapter" a bunch will come up on Amazon or eBay for various prices.

I have also bought the Dewalt 18v tool to 20v porter cable/ black n decker batteries for my father-in-law and those work just as well in his tools.
 

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For those of you above that might be considering a move away from DeWalt, I've made that journey and I'm glad I did. Disclaimer - I'm not a professional and don't use these tools all day everyday and I loved DeWalt until they started forcing me to a new platform. I had a big Dewalt 18V collection and for a while, Dewalt acted like they wanted to win the tool battle when they came out with lithium ion 18V batteries instead of the normal oval brick - so I bought a bunch of the Lithium ION 18V batteries and was really happy with the performance and then boom - they migrate to 20V and discontinue the 18V Lithium Ion batteries. I had 20+ tools and didn't want to move to 20V so eventually I tried to use the 20Volt batteries with the adapter on my 18V tools but it really was bulky and had awful battery performance. So I looked at Ryobi because my wife had started using some of their 18V fans for her to use at dog shows and they had a strong battery platform and lots of unique and useful tools. So I sold all my DeWalt stuff then started collecting Ryobi. The Ryobi stuff was pretty good - maybe not as "tight" as Dewalt on drills and impacts but better on some stuff.

Trouble is like many of you have mentioned, even though Ryobi has lots of interesting tools - no one platform offers all the unique tools I want... Milwaukee comes out with a 12V PVC cutter - I had to have that and then they came out with an 12v grease gun then the 18V Chainsaw with a 12 amp hour battery (hands down my best electric tool.) I'm still using the Ryobi stuff but most of my new purchases are swinging to Milwaukee 12 and 18V. I've gotten to where I use the 12V drill and impact driver all the time as they are lighter, powerful and have excellent battery life. I recently added the 18V Power head with the weed eater, articulating hedge trimmer and chainsaw head - it is also amazing especially with the extension pole.

My tool journey that started as a move from Dewalt to somewhere else has started to turn into a battle of electric vs gas as well. I have 5 Stihl chainsaws that were used regularly but now I just use the biggest one for handling largest trees. The Stihl pole saw and climbing saw and hedge trimmers are just started occasionally to keep them running... I don't use them and my Stihl backpack blowers only get occasional use on big jobs as the 18V Milwaukee blower works much better than the Ryobi blowers... It is a power hog though as it will eat an 8AH battery in about 20-25 minutes... My ears don't ring and when I sit the saws down for a few minutes, they just sit there instead of jumping around and then quitting right when I'm ready to pick them up!

I'm sure DeWalt has turned things around and the 20V program is much better than I know but I haven't looked at Dewalt display in years. Almost all the professional service folks that come to my property seem to be using Milwaukee.. Since Milwaukee, Ryobi and Rigid are all owned by the same company, maybe someday they will collapse into one super brand and we won't have to support multiple platforms to get the unique tools we want...
 

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I have the 20v line, for better or worse, and I NEED an ultra portable air inflator; not that POS bulky brick you currently sell. Multiple tool manufacturers are producing them now, get off your ashe Dewalt, I needed this like yesterday!

LETS GO! :mad:
Do you want performance or a tiny tool? That bulky inflator probably weights less than the battery you should be using on it...
 

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For those of you above that might be considering a move away from DeWalt, I've made that journey and I'm glad I did. Disclaimer - I'm not a professional and don't use these tools all day everyday and I loved DeWalt until they started forcing me to a new platform. I had a big Dewalt 18V collection and for a while, Dewalt acted like they wanted to win the tool battle when they came out with lithium ion 18V batteries instead of the normal oval brick - so I bought a bunch of the Lithium ION 18V batteries and was really happy with the performance and then boom - they migrate to 20V and discontinue the 18V Lithium Ion batteries. I had 20+ tools and didn't want to move to 20V so eventually I tried to use the 20Volt batteries with the adapter on my 18V tools but it really was bulky and had awful battery performance. So I looked at Ryobi because my wife had started using some of their 18V fans for her to use at dog shows and they had a strong battery platform and lots of unique and useful tools. So I sold all my DeWalt stuff then started collecting Ryobi. The Ryobi stuff was pretty good - maybe not as "tight" as Dewalt on drills and impacts but better on some stuff.

Trouble is like many of you have mentioned, even though Ryobi has lots of interesting tools - no one platform offers all the unique tools I want... Milwaukee comes out with a 12V PVC cutter - I had to have that and then they came out with an 12v grease gun then the 18V Chainsaw with a 12 amp hour battery (hands down my best electric tool.) I'm still using the Ryobi stuff but most of my new purchases are swinging to Milwaukee 12 and 18V. I've gotten to where I use the 12V drill and impact driver all the time as they are lighter, powerful and have excellent battery life. I recently added the 18V Power head with the weed eater, articulating hedge trimmer and chainsaw head - it is also amazing especially with the extension pole.

My tool journey that started as a move from Dewalt to somewhere else has started to turn into a battle of electric vs gas as well. I have 5 Stihl chainsaws that were used regularly but now I just use the biggest one for handling largest trees. The Stihl pole saw and climbing saw and hedge trimmers are just started occasionally to keep them running... I don't use them and my Stihl backpack blowers only get occasional use on big jobs as the 18V Milwaukee blower works much better than the Ryobi blowers... It is a power hog though as it will eat an 8AH battery in about 20-25 minutes... My ears don't ring and when I sit the saws down for a few minutes, they just sit there instead of jumping around and then quitting right when I'm ready to pick them up!

I'm sure DeWalt has turned things around and the 20V program is much better than I know but I haven't looked at Dewalt display in years. Almost all the professional service folks that come to my property seem to be using Milwaukee.. Since Milwaukee, Ryobi and Rigid are all owned by the same company, maybe someday they will collapse into one super brand and we won't have to support multiple platforms to get the unique tools we want...
They'll never remove the good/better/best tiers.

And every mfg, with the exception of Ryobi, has moved battery platforms. Unlike Milwaukee & Co, DeWalt still supports the 18v (Li-ion updates, adapter to 20v max, some tools still available a decade after 20v max came out, etc). :dunno:
 

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They'll never remove the good/better/best tiers.

And every mfg, with the exception of Ryobi, has moved battery platforms. Unlike Milwaukee & Co, DeWalt still supports the 18v (Li-ion updates, adapter to 20v max, some tools still available a decade after 20v max came out, etc). :dunno:
keep in mind that the Dewalt 20V line is only a 18 volt tool. They said they labeled the new line 20V not to confuse people. Seemed like a heck of a marketing gimic. Over seas the 20V line is called a 18VXR or something like that.
 

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I have also danced the cordless tool brand shuffle. I have settled on the Milwaukee M12. I gave the M18 set to my wife for her crafts.

I also have a cordless rechargeable 'Air Hawk'. I've had it for over a year and use it ALL the time. It will bring 4 car tires from 20psi up to 32psi no problem. I'd bet that I've recharged it 70 times since I've had it.....still going strong. I like the digital display and auto shutoff when it reaches setpoint. I only gave $15 for it on clearance!!
 

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keep in mind that the Dewalt 20V line is only a 18 volt tool. They said they labeled the new line 20V not to confuse people. Seemed like a heck of a marketing gimic. Over seas the 20V line is called a 18VXR or something like that.
What do you suggest they call the new 20v tools that replaced the old 18 volt tools that had the old stem style batteries.

They upgraded the old fashioned, bulky stem tools to the much improved slide in design. The nomenclature change was a clever way to differentiate the designs in the marketplace.

I don’t understand the bellyaching and hand wringing when a manufacturer makes a design improvement and continues to support the old design, even after production ceases, in this case, with an inexpensive adapter that works quite well.

Milwaukee has a history of walking away when they make a platform improvement, leaving the consumer high and dry, but, for some reason, that seems to be ok with the red fanboys.

For the record, I have both, but don’t see Milwaukee as superior.
 
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What do you suggest they call the new 20v tools that replaced the old 18 volt tools that had the old stem style batteries.

They upgraded the old fashioned, bulky stem tools to the much improved slide in design. The nomenclature change was a clever way to differentiate the designs in the marketplace.

I don’t understand the bellyaching and hand wringing when a manufacturer makes a design improvement and continues to support the old design, even after production ceases, in this case, with an inexpensive adapter that works quite well.

Milwaukee has a history of walking away when they make a platform improvement, leaving the consumer high and dry, but, for some reason, that seems to be ok with the red fanboys.

For the record, I have both, but don’t see Milwaukee as superior.
I only have the dewalt brand. I absolutely love my dewalt 20v brand.
That said if anyone doesnt think they didn't choose 20v as a name for a different battery 18v tool to confuse the entry level handyman into thinking the're more powerful then all the other 18v brands out there are crazy.
Why not list the new tool as 16 or 17v? It's not a 20v and there is a reason over seas it has to be listed as 18vxp or whatever. Milwaukee should list all their tools as a new 22v tool and change the battery to a new cheaper style and reap the rewards.

Point is its a lie to con people. Shouldn't be allowed.
 

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You think the compressor is bad try the leaf blower. A 5 amp battery might blow air for 5 minutes.
Jobsite blower, and leaf blower both work fine for what we use them for. For us the 5A batteries last enough. Honestly if I have a big job I break out the backpack blower. Power wise there is no comparison.
 

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Somewhat OT, but do Dewalt 20V batteries fit in any other tool brands?
 

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Somewhat OT, but do Dewalt 20V batteries fit in any other tool brands?
With adapters they fit in many. Most of the time it is for cheaper brands. Between me and my father-in-law we have adapters to use the 20v Dewalt in 18v Dewalt, 18v ryobi, 20v porter cable, 20v black and decker.

The porter cable and black and decker batteries are nearly the same. Both owned by Stanley. They have a relief cut on opposite sides and the b&d have a rounded edge where the PC are square. I got a killer deal on some b&d so I cut notch out and squared off the corners with a dremel and the work just fine. Some guys will just notch the tool instead of squaring the battery corner (some PC are already notched). I figured since the batteries are the consumable part I would modify those.

Just search Amazon or ebay with the key words like "20v Dewalt adapter" and the name of the other tool to see if there is a match. It can bring old tools back to life if you already have Dewalt batteries.
 

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I guess much like the “who makes the best engine oil“ conversation, we each have our favorites when it comes to battery operated tools. I was a Dewalt loyalist for a long time but it seemed like I had to charge the batteries much too often. So I switched to Milwaukee and have never regretted it. For my hobby/home-owner use, I find them to be superior to Dewalt. To each, his own.
 

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Milwaukee seems to be the real innovator in cordless tools right now. If I started over today I would probably go with Milwaukee instead of Makita. I am mostly Makita because they were first to market with a mass market lithium ion battery system. I happened to need a new set of cordless tools right after LXT was released.

I recently was looking for a battery band saw. The bare Makita LXT band saw is something like $300. There were holiday specials on the M12 Milwaukee Fuel band saw for $209 with saw, charger, and one 4.0XC battery. I decided to buy that as it meets my needs just fine and there are some other M12 tools I consider better than Makita.
 

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As a general contractor we use all platforms, each makes certain tools that are better suited for the job, unfortunately no one platform cover it all. Once you get a couple tools of each platform you add as you go it really doesn’t make a difference, just buy the ones best for what you need.
 

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All use dewalt batteries
Don’t Dewalt and Milwaukee use the same cell vendor base anyway? The only difference is in the proprietary plastic shell and electronics.

Except for the new Dewalt pouch battery technology, which seems like an industry leading advance.
 

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Meh, I've had the 20v Dewalt setup for nearly a decade. Gutted and renovated a house, countless other projects and they still get the job done. The drill chuck developed a wobble somewhere along the way. Been meaning to replace the chuck but it's not bad enough to be a problem for general dead tree carcass stuff so I haven't got around to it. For air inflating needs I have a compressor, a 12v plug in cheapie in the truck for unscheduled roadside needs, a manual foot pump, and a smaller manual hand pump. Different folks need different things, but I don't expect to ever have a need for a cheapie cordless compressor.
 

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Meh, I've had the 20v Dewalt setup for nearly a decade. Gutted and renovated a house, countless other projects and they still get the job done. The drill chuck developed a wobble somewhere along the way. Been meaning to replace the chuck but it's not bad enough to be a problem for general dead tree carcass stuff so I haven't got around to it. For air inflating needs I have a compressor, a 12v plug in cheapie in the truck for unscheduled roadside needs, a manual foot pump, and a smaller manual hand pump. Different folks need different things, but I don't expect to ever have a need for a cheapie cordless compressor.
Just buy some of the Harbor Freight drill bits with the hex end.

They wobble so bad you’ll never notice your worn out chuck again.
 

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Ive been waiting around for a 3/8 20v ratchet. I may jump the dewalt ship over this. The Milwaukee M12 extended reach seems great.
Just ordered an extended reach Dewalt 12v cordless ratchet. Should ship on the 15th! Acme tools and tool nut both have them listed for pre order.

Not sure when the 20v will be out, but since I only have full sized 5ah batteries, they'd be way too big to use on a ratchet anyway. I do have 8 of the 12v batteries though so I'm gonna give it a try.

I've nearly ordered a Milwaukee ratchet a few times, but they already burned me in 2010 with junk batteries.
 

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This Dewalt this please ! I don't care 12v, 18v ,20v it would be very handy in the shop

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Just grab one if it will help. Having a couple battery platforms isn't a big deal, plus there are some tools that are just better suited to the m12 battery. Like ratchets and the die grinder
 

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I had ONE DeWalt cordless drill. Made me swear off that brand's cordless warmed over homeowner junk for life. Bought it brand new to replace a decades old Makita 7.2 V stick battery drill that still works. It weighed a ton, batteries went dead in the case overnight, trigger failed in two weeks, body cracked at the base of the handle. DeWalt said they couldn't get me any replacement parts because it was a tool they were discontinuing. It was TWO WEEKS old.
Been a Milwaukee user ever since. There's aways enough juice in the battery to do whatever little tasks I run into, even after sitting for months...

Tommy
 

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Just ordered an extended reach Dewalt 12v cordless ratchet. Should ship on the 15th! Acme tools and tool nut both have them listed for pre order.

Not sure when the 20v will be out, but since I only have full sized 5ah batteries, they'd be way too big to use on a ratchet anyway. I do have 8 of the 12v batteries though so I'm gonna give it a try.

I've nearly ordered a Milwaukee ratchet a few times, but they already burned me in 2010 with junk batteries.
I just bought a 12v 3/8 impact. The Tool Nut is only a few miles from me. I’ll check out the ratchet when it comes out
 
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