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nadogail

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Back in the day when I was a kid, DeWalt was the "King of the Hill" with their Radial Arm Saw, it looks like they tried to be all things to everybody and lost their way.
 
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Can you tell us what need to inflate?

5 inch kart race tires up to 20 psi (max). See post #13

I just popped for another Dewalt 20v Impact after HD had the tool, battery, charger, and carrying bag for $99. So now I have two of their impacts, one for the garage, one for the race trailer when I’m on the road.

I like Dewalt, I also like (but have never owned) Millwalkee. But I would like Dewalt to produce a compact hand held tire inflator.
 

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I have pretty complete outfits of both the older Dewalt 18v and Milwaukee M18. I went with Milwaukee when Dewalt quit offering the 18v stuff. I don't know now if there was an overlap in the timeline when the adapter came out or not, but I didn't know about it at the time.
I had a mix of the lithium NANO setup and XRP nicads. The lithium batteries work in all the tools. I love the Milwaukee and use it more now, but I'll say, I don't think it will provide nearly the lifespan the old Dewalt has... (but I don't think the new 20v stuff will either.) The original Dewalt impactor spent 12 years running hundreds of tek screws every day. I've since switched jobs, but it still runs great, and don't see much decrease in performance of the two original nano batteries.
 

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My experience is the opposite of yours I will not be buying any more Milwaukee tools . The last few things I bought are the same quality as store brand stuff extremely disappointed. Now that I’ve decided to buy yellow I’ve yet to be disappointed they might not be the best in all categories but at least there in the game.
 

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Just ordered an extended reach Dewalt 12v cordless ratchet. Should ship on the 15th! Acme tools and tool nut both have them listed for pre order.

Not sure when the 20v will be out, but since I only have full sized 5ah batteries, they'd be way too big to use on a ratchet anyway. I do have 8 of the 12v batteries though so I'm gonna give it a try.

I've nearly ordered a Milwaukee ratchet a few times, but they already burned me in 2010 with junk batteries.
Oh yeah, I just pre-ordered the extended reach myself. Even though most of my cordless tools are Dewalt's 20v lineup, I also have several of Milwaukee's ratchets and I love them, so I'm not really a fanboi of either. I would have already gotten Milwaukee's Fuel version also but I'd been waiting on Dewalt's to come out instead. Can't hardly wait.

Milwaukee-cordless-ratchets.jpg

The testing is in. Dewalt brings the beans! :love:(y)

 

mike93lx

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Returned mine,a absolute joke!
That's not really a Dewalt issue. Leaf blowers use a ton of power. I have two ego blowers and even with 5ah, 56v batteries, the run time on turbo is about 15 minutes. You need to run them less than full out whenever possible.
 
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The 20v blower has adequate power and run time with the 5ah battery to clear our patio, garage floor, and driveway.

Haven’t tried to do all three with one charge, though.

And, it was relatively inexpensive.

I’m satisfied. I don’t have expectations that, at the price point, it would clear the fall leaf dropping at the lake house.
 

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One thing I'd like to point out is that Dewalt 18v and Dewalt 20v and Milwaukee 18v all use 5-3.6 v batteries. Dewalt choose to use a nominal number, 4v, to come up with their 20v tools. Nothing changed. I always had respect for Milwaukee for not jumping on that band wagon.
 

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One thing I'd like to point out is that Dewalt 18v and Dewalt 20v and Milwaukee 18v all use 5-3.6 v batteries. Dewalt choose to use a nominal number, 4v, to come up with their 20v tools. Nothing changed. I always had respect for Milwaukee for not jumping on that band wagon.
I hear this a lot, but never anyone criticizing Milwaukee for going with "12V" labeling for their 10.8V platform. :dunno:
 

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One thing I'd like to point out is that Dewalt 18v and Dewalt 20v and Milwaukee 18v all use 5-3.6 v batteries. Dewalt choose to use a nominal number, 4v, to come up with their 20v tools. Nothing changed. I always had respect for Milwaukee for not jumping on that band wagon.
Dumb argument. Dewalt changed the form factor of their batteries, probably ten years ago. The new 20v nomenclature reduced confusion. If you need a battery for the old tools, you ask for and get an 18v. Need a battery for the newer form factor, you get a 20. Simple.

Why is this so hard to understand and accept for some people?
 

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Good point, I never thought of that but now that I know it's not hard to understand at all.

...and actually it wasn't any kind of argument it was just a statement.
 
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iamrfixit

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Dumb argument. Dewalt changed the form factor of their batteries, probably ten years ago. The new 20v nomenclature reduced confusion. If you need a battery for the old tools, you ask for and get an 18v. Need a battery for the newer form factor, you get a 20. Simple.

Why is this so hard to understand and accept for some people?
Early 2011 when I got my first 20v drill/driver kit, so it's over eleven years ago now....... and I'm still using those 11+ year old batteries!

Imagine how many people would be all PO'd when they ordered a new 18v battery or tool only to find that was not compatible with their tools. No way they could just abandon such a huge user base and they continued to produce 18v tools and batteries for the old platform for a decade, even now they still sell batteries to maintain support for that old platform.

You simply cannot have two completely incompatible versions under the same brand and call both 18v.
 

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I have to say dewalt has improved a lot, the atomic line is great just bought a few, 20 volt power in 12 volt size. Used an atomic impact driver with powerstak battery today driving 3" screws, very impressed. Not to mention how light it felt, plus the atomic reciprocating saw blows away the milwaukee, more power less weight. I'll be ripping subfloor tomorrow & curious to see how the small ps batteries do in the brushless saw.
 

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I have the DCC2560 and it does great for all of my air needs, including filling car tires. I'd be willing to bet the DCC2520 works almost as well if you're looking to stick to true 20v.
 

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I can attest that the little Ryobi inflator is an absolute game-changer. I did not expect that cheap little thing to be so incredibly useful and so frequently used. Fairly quick and lasts a LONG time on a charge. It's a lot quicker than any of the 12V inflators you plug in to a cigarette lighter.


A couple of things about Ryobi stuff:
1) Their newer brushless stuff is miles and miles and MILES better than the older brushed stuff in every way, and in the team photo with the more expensive brands. It's still generally less expensive, but not dirt cheap. If you watch for sales and such, you can still jump into Ryobi for a fair bit less than Milwaukee, but the difference is not as much as it used to be.

Of course, it'll still take a while for Ryobi to shake off the "crappy home gamer" stigma. And good gravy, that fluorescent snot color is awful. I guess if you're worried about peer pressure or fashion, then you only have a few choices; red, yellow... maybe teal.


2) Ryobi has quietly updated their battery platform without losing compatibility with older tools and batteries. The main contacts are at the tip of the widget sticking up from the battery packs. However, the "HP" batteries have two extra contacts at the base of the stickuppy thingy. Many of their newer high-draw brushless tools (1/2" impact, angle grinder, etc.) can use these contacts to draw extra current when needed.

The genius bit is that these tools will work just fine with older batteries; you just won't get that last bit of oomph. And the newer batteries also work fine in older tools that don't use the secondary contacts. It's an absolute genius move, IMHO.
 

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I can attest that the little Ryobi inflator is an absolute game-changer. I did not expect that cheap little thing to be so incredibly useful and so frequently used. Fairly quick and lasts a LONG time on a charge. It's a lot quicker than any of the 12V inflators you plug in to a cigarette lighter.


A couple of things about Ryobi stuff:
1) Their newer brushless stuff is miles and miles and MILES better than the older brushed stuff in every way, and in the team photo with the more expensive brands. It's still generally less expensive, but not dirt cheap. If you watch for sales and such, you can still jump into Ryobi for a fair bit less than Milwaukee, but the difference is not as much as it used to be.

Of course, it'll still take a while for Ryobi to shake off the "crappy home gamer" stigma. And good gravy, that fluorescent snot color is awful. I guess if you're worried about peer pressure or fashion, then you only have a few choices; red, yellow... maybe teal.


2) Ryobi has quietly updated their battery platform without losing compatibility with older tools and batteries. The main contacts are at the tip of the widget sticking up from the battery packs. However, the "HP" batteries have two extra contacts at the base of the stickuppy thingy. Many of their newer high-draw brushless tools (1/2" impact, angle grinder, etc.) can use these contacts to draw extra current when needed.

The genius bit is that these tools will work just fine with older batteries; you just won't get that last bit of oomph. And the newer batteries also work fine in older tools that don't use the secondary contacts. It's an absolute genius move, IMHO.
Ryobi is made by the same parent company as Milwaukee...
 

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The Dewalts closes competitor for inflators is the Milwaukee which uses the much smaller 12v battery. Both are great pieces, the Dewalt adds the larger battery and the low pressure inflator which adds to its size. I would definitely prefer a smaller form factor by deleting the low pressure inflator but then I'm sure there are people who use that feature a lot.
 

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After getting the dewalt inflator I doubt I would still use the ryobi ones, the dewalt is much faster & seems a little more accurate.
 
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