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kythri

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Anyone know anything about this company?

Giller Tool Co, division of Giller Industries, Inc, out of Dallas, TX?

Another hawk-shop find - 18" 3/8" drive extension, marked:

GILLER 59J MFG USA

Picked it up for a buck - if it turns to dust tomorrow, I lost a buck.

Not really expecting it to be worth anything, or anything spectacularly awesome, but I'm kinda interested in knowing more about the company.

The only references I can find suggest that Giller was a GSA supplier, but they're only mentioned in reference to past legal disputes, as precedent.

If anyone has any history on them, I'd be real interested (and very appreciative).

Thanks!
 
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they did alot for government contracts. About all we had in the army was by Giller. A decent tool, held up to alot of abuse when I was in.


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Nifty.

Now I'm kind of curious what happened to them. Usually you can find something on Google, but there's virtually nothing there.

I noticed my extension has a slight warp/bend to it, but hey, it was cheap. :) I'll be keeping it here in the toolbox for quite a while.
 

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I have 4 or 5 giller sockets and a wrench or two. Like you I could not find any thing about them. I worked for a guy 4 years in a garage and he had some giller tools; I think he said from the navy as he was in for 4 years.
 

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I have a 3/8ths dr 1/2 crowfoot. I can't remember where I got it ( had it since about 1972).
 

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I have a Giller Tool Co. firefighter's spanner. I've only seen spanners made out of aluminum, this one is steel so I guess it's fairly old. Couldn't find anything useful from a Google search either.
 

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This reminds me of when I was looking for info on Proamerica the other day. Those tool companies who specialize in gov't contract don't seem to have much info on the net.

I think I've seen a few odds and ends by Giller and I believe they were pretty decent quality.
 

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John Garner, from the old Toolsource board, felt fairly confident that the Giller brand was produced by Thorsen as GSA contract tools - no one reported ever seeing the Giller brand new in stores, seeing Giller advertising, or knowing anything about a Giller warranty. I have a set of Giller deepwells floating around somewhere, with one Thorsen thrown in the mix, and you can't tell the difference without looking for the name, right down to the shallow dimple near the base of the socket. The Giller 1/4" 77MC ratchet I have is a twin to a Thorsen 77MC. The 1/2" drive ratchet (77C) would pass for a Thorsen as well.

But just to throw a monkey wrench into the mix - I also have a Giller CB43 ratchet that is a perfect match to the oh-so-familiar New Britain/Blackhawk/Husky et.al. Kilness patent round head ratchet - the Husky is a CB43 as well. So maybe Thorsen started to choke on supplying GSA ratchets at one time, and sourced some from New Britain to fill in? None of the other misc Giller stuff I have/seen resembles New Britain Machine products.
 

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Well, John's opinion holds a lot of weight with me; he a very knowledgeable fellow! If he thinks it's Thorsen, it likely is. (I've never seen or even heard of the brand, so I have nothing to add apart from vouching for John!)

I like your refining of the theory too, Keg; it may very well have been a capacity shortfall from Thorsen, or, indeed, Giller may have just sourced directly from different companies...


John Garner, from the old Toolsource board, felt fairly confident that the Giller brand was produced by Thorsen as GSA contract tools - no one reported ever seeing the Giller brand new in stores, seeing Giller advertising, or knowing anything about a Giller warranty. I have a set of Giller deepwells floating around somewhere, with one Thorsen thrown in the mix, and you can't tell the difference without looking for the name, right down to the shallow dimple near the base of the socket. The Giller 1/4" 77MC ratchet I have is a twin to a Thorsen 77MC. The 1/2" drive ratchet (77C) would pass for a Thorsen as well.

But just to throw a monkey wrench into the mix - I also have a Giller CB43 ratchet that is a perfect match to the oh-so-familiar New Britain/Blackhawk/Husky et.al. Kilness patent round head ratchet - the Husky is a CB43 as well. So maybe Thorsen started to choke on supplying GSA ratchets at one time, and sourced some from New Britain to fill in? None of the other misc Giller stuff I have/seen resembles New Britain Machine products.
 

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Well, John's opinion holds a lot of weight with me; he a very knowledgeable fellow!

Yup, I feel the same way! I've got an inch thick folder full of printouts from the old TS board, and many copy/paste pages in a Word doc from there and MarkKw's site - alot of posts from John G. and Larry Garbarek and others on tool company/history replies and such. Someday I'll go back thru and try to organize them....
 
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Google ain't got nothin' on Giller. :lol:

Well, they were a good company.

I found a Gill Tool Corp hand mechanics tool box in the late 60's. It has five rolling slide out drawers. The flip up cover and lock hasp is missing.

I have used it for forty years, the slides are still smooth, the green felt liner in the drawers is still in good shape, and all my sockets, wrenches, screwdrivers, pliers fit well and compactly.

Loaded it probably is about 75 pounds, but the handle in the top is sturdy and I will continue to keep my tools in it on my garage workbench.
 

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I worked for this company in 1966 in the office. They assembled tool kits for shipment to Viet Nam. Most of the the contracts were with the military. I worked in the office on the billing process to the government. I think they were one of the companies that billed the classic $95. plus for a wrench, which by the way, was a ridiculous price to pay in the 60's. Everyday was payday for the owners (the Giller family) as they were making money off the war - big time - duh!
 

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Well, a 1/4"-drive Giller set has made it into my collection...

$9 off eBay last night!

GillerQuarter-inchSocketSet.jpg


This is the same 77MC ratchet you have, Keg.
 

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FWIW, I have a Giller and a Husky 3/8" speed handle which are identical other than the name stamping.
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I see Giller mostly in sockets.

thnx, jack vines

thnx, jack vines
 

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We had giller hand tools in the supply room toolroom and armory area when I served 1965-67. They held upwell, can never remember replacing any in my two-year tenure! + 2 on packard v-8, mostly sockets and a few 3/8-1/2-9/16 off-sets floating around my stash area. Were not plated very well and collect a lot of rust! Never have found any in pristine condition!:bounce:
 
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here is the info that Chrislehr linked to

Acquisition by Hydrometals
In 1968 Lawton Shurtleff agreed to sell Thorsen Manufacturing to Hydrometals, Inc., an industrial conglomerate. The intended acquisition was noted in the August 15, 1968 issue of The New York Times. The transaction was structured as a stock swap and appears to have closed in early 1969, based on the information in an SEC News Digest from April 14, 1969, which notes that Hydrometals had filed to register securities for a secondary offering. Thorsen continued in operation as a division of Hydrometals, with Shurtleff remaining as the CEO until 1977.

Giller Tool
Hydrometals had previously acquired the Giller Tool Corporation of Dallas in 1963, with the acquisition noted in the November 15, 1963 issue of The New York Times. Giller appears to have operated primarily as a defense contractor, and the February 19, 1966 issue of The New York Times notes that the Giller division of Hydrometals had received $1.9 million in new defense contracts. After the 1969 acquisition of Thorsen, Hydrometals reorganized its subsidiaries to make Giller Tool an operating division of Thorsen Manufacturing.

It's not known whether Giller Tool had its own manufacturing facilities or made use of contract manufacturers; however, as a division of Thorsen, Giller would have had access to Thorsen's manufacturing equipment. This helps resolve a long-running mystery concerning the close resemblance of many Giller-marked tools with the corresponding Thorsen model.

Later History
In 1977 Hydrometals was acquired by Wallace Murray, another industrial conglomerate. In the late 1970s Thorsen moved its headquarters to Dallas, Texas and built a large manufacturing facility there, and somewhere along the way the corporate name changed to the Thorsen Tool Company. During this period the company appears to have devoted more resources to tool engineering, as the only known tool patents assigned to Thorsen were filed in the early 1980s. There was also a resurgence of interest in trademarks, with a number of applications being filed around this time.

Some time later Thorsen appears to have run into financial trouble, and the new factory was sold, possibly to National Hand Tool. The Thorsen operations (possibly just the name and trademarks) were eventually acquired by Elgin National, originally a manufacturer of watches. Elgin also owned GC Electronics, a maker of supplies and tools for the electronics industry, and at some point GC Electronics and Thorsen Tool were merged to form GC Thorsen, Inc. as a subsidiary of Elgin.

A 1995 catalog from GC Thorsen lists the address of Thorsen Tool as 1801 Morgan Street in Rockford, Illinois, and notes that Thorsen had been providing tools since 1926, with more than 2,000 tools in their current product line. The catalog offers sockets and drive tools in 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2-drive, plus a variety of wrenches, pliers, screwdrivers, air tools, and some specialty tools. The catalog illustrations show highly polished chrome finishes, with knurled handles on ratchets and raised panels on the wrenches. However, by this time Thorsen is believed to have sourced most (if not all) of their tools from other manufacturers.

In 1995 GC Thorsen was purchased from Elgin National by Katy Industries. (As Katy is a public company, numerous records of this transaction are reported online.) Under Katy the Thorsen Tool operations were separated from GC Electronics, and an annual report for 2000 listed Thorsen Tool as a value-added distributor, with tools sourced primarily from Asia. In 2001 Thorsen was acquired by Olympia Group, a distributor of hand tools and related products.
 

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Just to add some fuel to the fire.

I have run into a fair amount of Giller but I haven't really purchased any however some observations.

I ran into a 24" 3/8" drive extension and it very much resembled a Proto style but it could of been a Thorsen because they are similar in appearance.

The wrenches I have ran into appeared to be Thorsen

The only ratchet that I remember seeing was a either a thorsen or a New Britian style but I can't remember anymore.
 

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Giller is the reason for my joining this forum! I recently "won" a nice little pouch of Ignition wrenches on ebay, and tried to find some information. Google directed me to this site.
 

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Sorry for bring back an old thread.

I picked up a 1/4 drive Giller ratchet/socket set today, the same set as lbgradwell pictured. I was very impressed about the smoothness of the ratchet. Very nice set, even comes with some of 8-point sockets (not sure when I am going to need them).
 
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Nothing wrong with an on-topic thread necro. :D

It's the resurrection of 3-year-old flamefests that tend to get people annoyed.

I'm still digging my extension - it's come in handy quite a few times!
 

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Anyone know anything about this company?

Giller Tool Co, division of Giller Industries, Inc, out of Dallas, TX?

Another hawk-shop find - 18" 3/8" drive extension, marked:

GILLER 59J MFG USA

Picked it up for a buck - if it turns to dust tomorrow, I lost a buck.

Not really expecting it to be worth anything, or anything spectacularly awesome, but I'm kinda interested in knowing more about the company.

The only references I can find suggest that Giller was a GSA supplier, but they're only mentioned in reference to past legal disputes, as precedent.

If anyone has any history on them, I'd be real interested (and very appreciative).

Thanks!

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At the flea market I have been looking for the missing extensions for this Thorsen set. The label has the part numbers. So whenever I see 1/4" drive extensions I pick them up to see if they are Thorsens and have the correct part number. 2 Days ago I picked up a Giller and it had a Thorsen part number.
 

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My dad dropped off a bag of tools he bought for me at a yard sale and there was a Giller brand 1/2" ratchet in it. After comparing it to my other New Britain made ratchets it is identical and even has the same model number as the Husky and Mustang ratchets. It has the same exact pat number on the back as well. So while Thorsen might have made the majority of Giller tools this particular ratchet is for sure made by New Britain.
 

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New to the board, dave is the name and Hi everyone.

I have a huge giller tool box almost in mint condition. It weighs a little over 12lbs.Its about 12" long 8"wide, and about 3 1/2" deep It has 3 hinges, two locks, and two handles. It kinda' tourgoise(sp) color. I am going to list it tomorrow on ebay. Seems to a a very good tool. On the lid it is embossed with "giller tool co." Never heard of the tool company until I received this tool box. Couldn't find anything on ebay.
 
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I`ve got a few giller tools with usaf engraved on them plus 3 giller tool boxes if you need them for your burgeoning giller collection?
 

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resurging the thread again - I've got only two Giller pieces - both sockets, but the don't say 'USA' on them, only the Giller name and the socket size...

Was assuming they were all US made, but am I correct?

Was all GILLER product made in the USA?

Got these 2 sockets from my dad, no idea where the hell he got them...
 

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resurging the thread again - I've got only two Giller pieces - both sockets, but the don't say 'USA' on them, only the Giller name and the socket size...

Was assuming they were all US made, but am I correct?

Was all GILLER product made in the USA?

Got these 2 sockets from my dad, no idea where the hell he got them...
I believe they were all made in the USA with the great majority of them being made by Thorsen.
 

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I have quite a few Giller tools, most say USA, and almost every tool is exact replica of a Thosen tool. I collect both, so its easy to compare. Most even have the same Part numbers as the Thorsen. Some say nothing but Giller on them. They were mostly made for military use, and I assume during war time. there was a huge rush to just get them out, so the stamping wasnt too important. I even have some in my socket set that arent stamped at all, but they are perfect matches to the set, so i assume they belong there. There isnt a whole lot of information about Giller, so obviously a lot of it is just assuming. But i'm almost positive its all USA made.

resurging the thread again - I've got only two Giller pieces - both sockets, but the don't say 'USA' on them, only the Giller name and the socket size...

Was assuming they were all US made, but am I correct?

Was all GILLER product made in the USA?

Got these 2 sockets from my dad, no idea where the hell he got them...
 

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Hi,

I have just joined this forum in order to find further info on the Giller Tool Coy. I served as a munitions technician in the British Army for over 22 yrs and was trained on the US Lance Missile System in the 80's. In the early 90's the system became obsolete and I assisted in the final firing camp and disposal of the remaining support systems. I was given a socket set which comes in a Giller metal box but also contains ratchets and sockets made by Snap On, Kal, Husky and Thorson all of which are in good condition.
 

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Hi,

I have just joined this forum in order to find further info on the Giller Tool Coy. I served as a munitions technician in the British Army for over 22 yrs and was trained on the US Lance Missile System in the 80's. In the early 90's the system became obsolete and I assisted in the final firing camp and disposal of the remaining support systems. I was given a socket set which comes in a Giller metal box but also contains ratchets and sockets made by Snap On, Kal, Husky and Thorson all of which are in good condition.

Do you have any pics?
 

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I too have 4-5 giller tools , identical to their Thorson counterparts , including the heavy raised panel wrenches that Snap on used to sell.
 

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I too have 4-5 giller tools , identical to their Thorson counterparts , including the heavy raised panel wrenches that Snap on used to sell.

Good cause i'm bringing those Giller tool boxes down with me next time with some loose Giller tools so you can start your collection up!
 
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