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cvcman

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I have a 25 yr old CP 1/2” air impact
It’s getting tired
I don’t use it often but are any of the Harborfreight ones worth looking at ?
 
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the harbor freight ones used to get good press on here, havn't seen much lately but I wonder of that's just due to the battery ones are taking over?
have you looked into repair kits for yours? I was fortunate , I got a IR 231 at a pawn shop , almost new for $50
 

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I don't have the main line of HF impacts but I do have the 1/2 right angle and the 3/8 and like both. The impact I use most often is an IR 231.
 

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I have the red HF and it does just fine. Personally after I bought one of the Astro Nano ones that is really about all I use anymore. It also fits into a lot of places the larger ones won't.
 

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How much power do you need? If max torque is your goal the ASTRO Thor and the Aircat 1250K pretty much define that category. If you need something with more than enough zip to do tires but is quite small the ASTRO Nano is hard to beat. It was great for tearing down a Powerstoke 6.0 that I recently rebuilt.
 

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I'm using an Astro thor, generation 1, currently as my high output gun. Gen 2 supposedly has a better trigger and more power, but a gen 1 is like $140 on Amazon, gen2 is 50 bucks more.
 

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If I was going new, my preference would be a 2235 Timax. 231 or 232 "thunder gun" is a real good, cheaper option. IR makes a good gun (jury is out on their new offering however)
 

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How much power do you need? If max torque is your goal the ASTRO Thor and the Aircat 1250K pretty much define that category. If you need something with more than enough zip to do tires but is quite small the ASTRO Nano is hard to beat. It was great for tearing down a Powerstoke 6.0 that I recently rebuilt.
I have the 1250k and even though it's pretty powerful, I think the real calling card of this tool is *smoothness*. It's so smooth you really tend to underestimate how powerful it is. It's not very loud and the lack of vibration almost gives you cognitive dissonance because your senses are telling you it's not really doing work because its so smooth.

But I assure you it is doing work. The reason it's so smooth is that it's a pin clutch impact mechanism instead of a twin hammer. The mechanism rides in an oil bath and has no grease.

As much as I love my 1250K I don't use it all that much. Why? Well, you simply just don't need that much tool very often at all. The thirst for more power is causing us to lose sight of the fact that the more powerful the gun is, the less likely it is that you'll need that power over a smaller more compact gun. At some point, that last increment of power is a poor tradeoff for size, weight, noise, air consumption, etc.

Which means that the air gun I use the most is my HF version of the Capri/Hazett gun. It's notably lighter and less bulky than the 1250k and works just fine for even rusty bolts under 9/16"-to-M14 range. It's nothing at all close to 1000lb-ft like the HF claim is, but it does have a good power to weight ratio, is well-made, smooth and not too loud.

The truth is, making an air gun more powerful is easy. But it's not about just power, it's about how useful that power is in terms of where it fits and how fatiguing it is to use (weight, noise, vibration).

Something like an Aircat 1375XL at 2.75# is probably worth considering if you realize you don't need brute power often. It's a pound lighter than even the HF gun and you will absolutely notice the lighter weight.
 

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It just doesn't make sense to rebuild an old impact unless you're broke and can't afford $200 for something new that has 3X+ the torque of what the 20+ year old guns had new. I have an old Japan made HF copy of the IR 231 - 1980s. It's a great gun, nothing wrong with it, and still perfectly capable of removing lug nuts and most duties. But why bother when a cordless mid torque DeWalt has 2X+ the torque and no air hose?

I have the nitrocat 1250K and it's really nice. But big and heavy. I rarely use it since I'm mostly cordless, but sometimes I need it on that 2% of the time when I need more than the 600? lb-ft that the DeWalt can do.
 

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It just doesn't make sense to rebuild an old impact unless you're broke and can't afford $200 for something new that has 3X+ the torque of what the 20+ year old guns had new. I have an old Japan made HF copy of the IR 231 - 1980s. It's a great gun, nothing wrong with it, and still perfectly capable of removing lug nuts and most duties. But why bother when a cordless mid torque DeWalt has 2X+ the torque and no air hose?

I have the nitrocat 1250K and it's really nice. But big and heavy. I rarely use it since I'm mostly cordless, but sometimes I need it on that 2% of the time when I need more than the 600? lb-ft that the DeWalt can do.
Yeah 20 minutes to save $200 is for the peasants.🙄 If you value your time that highly sell all your tools and pay a mechanic/carpenter/electrician/ etc. etc.
 
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Aircat 1150. Have a tired 1250 that still works but is weak, still super smooth, just didn't hold up forever. I think I've been using the 1150 professionally for 10+ years now, along with a single hammer stubby. Yeah, 1150 is getting a bit tired. EXCELLENT VALUE.

Own old beast of HF 1/2" Earthquake too. Retired to home use. Loud, heavy, and crude compared to an Aircat... :dunno: I think they have improved in recent years.
 

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Aircat 1150. Have a tired 1250 that still works but is weak, still super smooth, just didn't hold up forever. I think I've been using the 1150 professionally for 10+ years now, along with a single hammer stubby. Yeah, 1150 is getting a bit tired. EXCELLENT VALUE.

Own old beast of HF 1/2" Earthquake too. Retired to home use. Loud, heavy, and crude compared to an Aircat... :dunno: I think they have improved in recent years.
What's wrong with the 1250? I'd think that with the front end sitting in an oil bath and the back end getting lubed daily, it would last darn near forever....
 

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I like my Aircat, and for most lug nuts and crank bolts it's what I grab. I used to have my father's older Snap-On guns, but the Aircat is smoother and way quieter.

Aside from being in the garage....my battery DeWalt 899 is a beast and works great when I'm not near a good air compressor.
 

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the best impact is the ir 231. look at what all the tire people use. they sell at tractor supply. Mine is over 30 years old.
now there bigger and stronger but relliable its the ir 231, and only reason i remember that is, my buick had a 231 v6 in it
 

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I like Aircat or Astro for most things, either will probably serve you well for an impact.
 

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I also have one of the red Harbor Freight Earthquake impacts. It is still doing fine after probably 10 years. Working on big fasteners on jeeps and my son's nissan pickup and never needed more power.

I bought one a few years back. Worked really well. But I really haven't used it much in years once I got a battery Dewalt impact
 

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IR 231 here as well.
Used mine the last 12 years of my professional career. It was flawless.

Don't like it as well since I retired.
That issue is my fault as I don’t have a large enough compressor to really supply it.
 

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I would seriously consider a cordless, battery powered one, if I were you. After buying mine, I seldom use my CP air impact.
 

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I would seriously consider a cordless, battery powered one, if I were you. After buying mine, I seldom use my CP air impact.
They are convenient for sure. At least for things like lug nuts where you have tons of space.

But I find that cordless has some pretty major tradeoffs at times. They vibrate like crazy under higher loads, much more so than an air tool. They are physically much larger (as must be true when you store the energy in the tool instead of elswhere) and often won't fit where an air tool will. Finally, they just won't last like air tools do.

I really like my small Makita cordless. It's only rated 240lb-ft but that always seems to be enough for what I usually need to use it for. But I'd never consider it a replacement for my 1250k or even my HF gun. They are both useful and both get used.
 

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If I grab an Air Impact it's usually this one.
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Mine is 3/8in but same available in 1/2in.
I also have an old MAC branded IR 231 1/2in but why not go lighter and stronger.
I have a few others and a butterfly 3/8in... variety of ratchets too.
But the Nano in 3/8 is the most used.

Flood that old impact with WD40, Spin it and keep flooding it till it bleeds clean. I bet you get new life out of it for pennies. Use some tool oil after. I had an old gun lock up from sitting for ages. WD got it back and didn't need to take apart.
 
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2135QTiMax or 2235QTiMax all the way. Check fleabay and FB Marketplace. New ones or lightly used pop up frequently at very good prices.
 

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If I grab an Air Impact it's usually this one.
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Mine is 3/8in but same available in 1/2in.
I also have an old MAC branded IR 231 1/2in but why not go lighter and stronger.
I have a few others and a butterfly 3/8in... variety of ratchets too.
But the Nano in 3/8 is the most used.

Flood that old impact with WD40, Spin it and keep flooding it till it bleeds clean. I bet you get new life out of it for pennies. Use some tool oil after. I had an old gun lock up from sitting for ages. WD got it back and didn't need to take apart.
+1 on points in this post .
The version 2 Astro 1822 1828 make very usable/useful tools for proper automotive style work, proper good power if you got fairly decent air volume supply and can do dynamic line pressure at tool over 100psi .
They very affordable too and have pretty good real world use lifespan and manufacturer technical/part support.
I too reckon you likely could get old gun running again with clean up, worth getting a modern nano impact though if do fair bit of proper auto repair work .
 

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To actually answer the furshlugginer question...

Yes, the air impacts at Harbor Freight are excellent bang for the buck. Specifically, the Earthquake XT is quite nice, comes in several colors, and it's $100. The ugga-duggas per dollar are fantastic.
 

danielbuck

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+1 on points in this post .
The version 2 Astro 1822 1828 make very usable/useful tools for proper automotive style work, proper good power if you got fairly decent air volume supply and can do dynamic line pressure at tool over 100psi .
They very affordable too and have pretty good real world use lifespan and manufacturer technical/part support.
I too reckon you likely could get old gun running again with clean up, worth getting a modern nano impact though if do fair bit of proper auto repair work .
Yep, even the V1 of this tool is a great compact impact for general automotive work. I use my V1 quite often. It's got plenty of power. If I were buying a new one, I would get the V2 just because. But the V1 doesn't seem low on power for what I use it for. I run 100psi through a 1/2" hose (1" lines going to the 1/2" reel), and occasionally put a 1/4" whip on the end.
 

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I have had this for about 6 years. I purchased it when sears was closing up shop. $49.95 It is made buy a import company of witch I am not familiar with the name. However it is a bit heavy but it has according to the specks 550 lbs of torque. It likes 125+ lbs of air pressure. And I don't have to recharge the battery. Just my .02 scents.

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Freakazooid52

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If your going to buy a. iR 231 skip the C model and buy an H or HA. H means handle exhaust the C version blasts air out the front and blows all dirt,brake dust, rust chunks in the air and on you
 
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