Good furnace????

[rickyboy]

Will this heat 600 sq. ft ??

Can anyone tell me anything about these"Dayton" furnaces?
I guy near me has two, brand new in the box for $445.00 ea.
The orig. owner of my new place did all his metal and wood working in the full basement shop of the house, and never insulated the garage. So I plan on insulating the fully drywalled garage and want to heat it. I'm more of a wrencher than a woodworker and like to work on my car/truck and motorcycles.
Plans are to install a MaxJax, cabinets/bench, install my hydraulic motorcycle ramp/lift and make my "man cave". But I need to heat the thing in the winter. I'm up in the south Cariboo region of BC and it gets a little chilly in the winter.
Below zero Celsius in the winter a lot of the time. I'm wondering if this will do the trick. There was a link somewhere where you could put all the info in on the heater and garage and it would tell you if it would satisfy the needs. But I can't find it now.

http://www.shopping.com/dayton-2yv14-counter-flow/F5V5CasQ4Au3MS2p5UIt5Q==/info?sb=1

 

[rickyboy]

so what......??? nobody has ever heard of these furnaces or have a comment??

 

[skulldrinker]

I don't like it because it is electric. I like my gas one. That's the only comment i have.

 

[dandan111]

Seems like they installed those in houses back in the 1970s. Never been around one. Talk him down some more and buy it. Should work real nice.

 

[nehog]

Dayton is Grainger's "house" brand. I have a Dayton gas heater in my shop/garage and it is well made (but realize Grainger doesn't make things, they rebrand other products...) and I'm happy.

Unless your electric is very cheap, you may find it expensive to run however.

 

[DonnyT]

You did say "Furnace" didn't you? Are we talking about the same thing here??

 

[rickyboy]

You did say "Furnace" didn't you? Are we talking about the same thing here??

Thanks for the reply's!!!

Yep furnace.
http://www.shopping.com/dayton-2yv14-counter-flow/F5V5CasQ4Au3MS2p5UIt5Q==/info?sb=1

I found the "The Ultimate Garage Heater" web site. http://www.ultimategarageheater.com/garage-heater-energy-cost-calculator.php
My cost is under .02 cents Kwh for electricity where I am {going to be} living. when I put that in along with my 31,400 BTUhr furnace,..
I get an hourly cost of approx. .01 cents hr to run the furnace. Unless I'm doing something wrong.
Even if I put in .05 cents per Kwhr it still comes up with my cost as being .6 cents per hr to run the furnace. Sounds cheap enough doesn't it??

 

[zmaxmotorsports]

Yeah that seems a little high price wise

 

[rickyboy]

Yeah that seems a little high price wise

Really?? I'd hate to think I paid too much !
A little high in price because .....?????
It is new and never been used,and half the price of online "new" prices.
Everywhere I've looked, they're around the $700. dollar mark usually more.
I guess when it comes right down to it, if I'm Ok with it, that's all that matters. I'm hoping and depending it'll do the job of heating a 6-700 sq. ft garage.

http://www.drillspot.com/products/317233/Dayton_2YV14_Counter_Flow_Wall_Furnace

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/DAYTON-Commercial-Electric-Wall-Heater-2YV14

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001H4O1JO/?tag=atomicindus08-20

http://www.toolsforshop.com/dayton-2yv14-counter-flow-wall-furnace-240-v-9-2-kw-2yv14.html

http://www.heateroutlet.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=96&idcategory=330#.UQgcJWckSuY

 

[DonnyT]

445 is a good price for that furnace.

 

[frankush]

I don't know how big your garage is, but if you put two of those in a well insulated and fairly tight 3 car garage, you could probably work in your shorts. That's alot of heat. I've seen those units in a number of home garages and they work pretty damn well. That's a good price. Don't skimp on the service size to that garage.

 

[gabe2365]

With your electricity rates being so low electric would be a good choice. They are 0.13 per kilowatt hour where I am. Costs me around $100 a month to keep my 3 car garage at 55 here with the temp outside at 15 to 25 deg f.

 

[rickyboy]

Ahhh,....apparently my hydro costs aren't what the bill says. WTF !!
it reads 0.01019 per Kwhr
but apparently the real cost, after speaking with my hydro Co. is 0.1019 per Kwhr
A lot more expensive than what I thought. They did the calculation for me and they estimate the garage will cost me $5.00 a day. Or 5x30=$150. per month !! That's more than my whole house. !!!
That's a lot different than what "The Ultimate Garage Heater" calculator gets. It estimates that the cost will be approx. 0.01 per hour to run my 31.400 BTU hr furnace. That's like $7.20 a month.
Maybe someone can use my numbers and check the U.G. Heater calculator and see where I might be going wrong. I think the hydro Co. got it wrong. Back on the phone to them tomorrow.

 

[rickyboy]

I don't know how big your garage is, but if you put two of those in a well insulated and fairly tight 3 car garage, you could probably work in your shorts. That's alot of heat. I've seen those units in a number of home garages and they work pretty damn well. That's a good price. Don't skimp on the service size to that garage.

The garage is only a little more than 600 sq. ft. {28'x22'= 616 sq ft}
I was only going to buy one of the furnaces ... certainly don't/wouldn't need 2

With your electricity rates being so low electric would be a good choice. They are 0.13 per kilowatt hour where I am. Costs me around $100 a month to keep my 3 car garage at 55 here with the temp outside at 15 to 25 deg f.

Are you using an electric furnace, Gabe ?
See your figures for cost resemble what my hydro Co. suggested. If I'm paying 10 cents per Kwhr.

 

[skulldrinker]

good luck heating up a 28x22 garage with only 31K btu I think she's going to be running overtime in your area on a cold winters night. Better be buttoned up darn good with no air leaks.

 

[dandan111]

5,000 watts heats my 700 sq ft here in indiana ,I think that's a pretty powerfull electric 9,200watts and should not be running all the time with 616sqft. I thought maybe your numbers were off on cost of running it but I really don't think it will run 24/7 either.

I keep my garage at 45 degrees and the heater hardly runs. Just insulate good that dayton should have the balls you need. IMHO

 

[rickyboy]

Thanks for ALL !! the help so far. There sure seems to be different opinions on if this is going to "do the trick".
This is a first for me and I only want to do this once.

Dan you say you use a 5000 watt unit. I never put watts into the picture. Here are all the particulars on the wall furnace. Does or has anyone used the heater calculator http://www.ultimategarageheater.com/garage-heater-energy-cost-calculator.php
when doing their calculations? I'm sure nobody just winged it and hoped for the best did you?

24/7 is not what I want or would accept either "skulldrinker" I think the calculator is based on an outdoor temp of 0*. The temps can and do get down to -20*C {-4*F} at times {up here }. We had a couple of cold nights so far, where it went to -30* C {-30*F}. It usually stays around just below 0*C {32*F} though.
The temps will be what they're going to be, and if it gets to -30*C, then for sure the furnace is going run more if I expect the shop/garage to stay at 50* or 60*.

Any additional opinions would be helpful.

DAYTON 2YV14 Counter Flow Wall Furnace,240 V,9.2 kW

Commercial Electric Wall Heater,
9200 Watts, 31,400 BtuH,
Voltage 240, 38.4 Amps AC,
60 Hz,
1 Phase,
Air Temp. Rise 80 Degrees F

 

[Oldewing]

My 2.5 car I use a Resonr(spelling?) Gas heater,'bout 26k BTU's

keeps my place at 52 degres for 40.00 a month. Crank it up, shirt sleeves in minutes.


One of the best things I ever have done for my special place.....

 

[rickyboy]

BTU's are BTU's no matter what the source I think. It's the cheapest way to get those BTU's that's important IMHO. I'd want to keep my temp around the 12* C or 50*F mark too.It sounds like your 2.5 would be around the 600 sq. ft mark,"oldewing"

I don't have gas on the property, not even in the house. I did think of running a gas line to the garage, but why? I have 240 there now.
I have a {German} well made "tight", well insulated log home with electric heat and a wood stove heater in the basement with a system of ducting that's incredibly efficient. I usually use wood and when/if I'm not there the elec. kicks in at whatever I set the thermostats at.

It's starting to sound like this 31,400 BTU electric wall furnace will work, no problem.

Now if I could only figure out or decide if the cost calculations are correct.
10 cents per Kwhr looks to be cheap at 0.01 per hr. of running time. ACCORDING TO the garage heater calculator.

Keep your thoughts and ideas coming !!

 

[dandan111]

I bought my heater just off of what another member suggested. My heater is only rated for 500sqft. My garage is attached to the house well insulated and finished. I did kind of take a leap of faith but my contractor looked over my plan also and thought it was good.

You have colder weather and I think that the heater you are looking at can handle it. Talk to a heating and plumbing guy in your area but I think it's a good buy.