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Groundhog dug under garage - Howto fix?

scoob8000

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So I've got a pretty big issue with ground hogs here. They chew on my shed, and destroy my yard. We've trapped at least two dozen and released them miles from the house. I've even shot a couple. All within a year or two time.

But now they're digging under my new garage. This burrow goes at least 5-6' that I can tell, only inches below my concrete.

Now I'm concerned about this tunnel under thr concrete with no support. Will I be okay just shoving as much gravel as I can into the hole?






 
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Throw a road flare in the hole and fill the hole with dirt. Chemical gas will kill any in the hole. You'll have to tamp the fill in the hole.
 

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I'd consider getting a concrete truck out there with a pump on it to help fill in that. There is no telling really how far they dug out.
 

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I bet somewhere in a rescue center there is a 75# + mixed breed dog in a cage that would love to share your home, and would keep the hogs away for you just to show his gratitude. :thumbup: jmo
 

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i got two armilldilos under mine, usually on a saturday when the shops doors are open, they will come visit. walk in one door and out the other
 

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I had badgers under one of my sheds, bastards must have excavated at least two tons of soil. It's not something that sees a vehicle so I persuaded them to leave (they are a protected species here) by soaking tennis balls in creosote and firing them down the holes as they hate the smell. I then stuffed as much rubble and gravel into the holes as far as I could ram it with a length of wood and then finished the top layer with a plug of concrete.

My neighbour who is a cattle farmer suggested something involving a 47kg cylinder of propane, a gallon of diesel and a match but he did say it might not leave the shed too well!
 

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My favourite method of getting rid of groundhogs is to use a small amount of gasoline (less than half a cup) which you toss in the hole. Wait a few minutes to allow the fumes from the gas to spread to all parts of the tunnel, then toss in a match. There will be a small "whump" as the fumes explode and possibly some sand and stones blown out of the tunnel so don't stand directly in front of the hole. Apparently the explosion knocks out the animal, and burns up all the oxygen so the pest suffocates before it wakes up. Then fill the hole as noted above. This has never failed for me and, while it sounds dangerous it is not unless you go crazy and pour a gallon of gas down the hole.
 
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I'm thinking there's only one main cuplit yet and I'm ramping up the game to shoot the ******. Going to buy a second trap today as well.

I'll call the concrete folks, but I've got a feeling it's going to be cost prohibitive to get a truck out there for a small unknown amount of concrete.

I thought about just packing some kind of gravel/limestone back in there but I can only push it in as far as a shovel handle.
 

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You could mix your own concrete in a wheel barrow. I know around here most places have a 4-6 yard minimum for a truck to come out.

I would be a little leery of the gasoline method, especially under the garage. I do wonder how they can get under there though. My garage has footings and walls all around the base of it. The groundhog would have to dig for miles to get under it. I know they are inherently lazy. I keep them out of my garden with railroad ties and a little fence buried under the dirt. You've got some pretty industrious critters there!
 

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Might want to call a plumber to run a camera in there to see just how deep it is. If you're calling for concrete and a pump, they'll need to know how much to bring.
 

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I feel for ya because I have had the same problems several times. It's hard to believe how much dirt those things can move in a short period of time. Once they get in there and get established it's hard to get them out.

I tried those smoke bombs that Southern States sells and to me it looks like they like the fumes they give off.

If you have some from the same clan as the ones that I had to deal with it's no use packing rocks, bricks, steel plate or anything else in the hole cause they will either just dig them out or dig beside the stuff and still be in business. I use up a whole pallet of concrete landscape bricks trying to fill in holes they were going in and out of.

After I ran out of the bricks and everything else I could find to pack into their holes I thought that maybe I could fill the holes with concrete. I went to Lowes and bought 10 bags of 80 lb mix and several bags of the large landscape rocks to mix in with the small pea gravel that comes in those bags of concrete. I mixed one or two bags kind of wet and dumped them in the hole them mixed a bag with the larger rocks that was kind of stiff and packed it into the hole. I sit there and drink a cool one and once I thought it would be ok to leave I left for the day. When I came back the next morning they had dug right through that mess like it was soft dirt.

I went and got ten more bags and filled the holes again while I was at work so I could keep an eye on them. Nothing happened the rest of the day but the next morning when I came back I found where they had dug another hole where there was no concrete or bricks. I filled that spot full of concrete and bricks and finally I thought I had then so there was no way in or out.

The next day I walked around the building and as I did I could find no where that they had dug on the two sides of the building that didn't have concrete or asphalt around the outside walls.

This building was on a built up pad that had a concrete slab with a concrete parking area in the front. On two sides there was no concrete and this is where I had the most problem up until now. On the other end of the building there was about 5' of fill that sloped up from the asphalt parking lot on that end of the building.

The area that sloped upward to the concrete pad had about 21/2" of asphalt laid down and packed to hold the dirt in place. As I came around the corner to the side parking area I just about pooped my skivies because there was a pile of bright red clay that looked like a small single axle dump truck had dumped in the parking lot.

I said no way somebody would do such a thing, then I looked a little closer and there was this ground hog sitting on top of the pile eating a stalk of corn he had robbed from the guy that lived next door. I was so mad I grabbed a piece of iron pipe that was laying on the ground and chunked it at him for all I was worth. Of course I missed and I remember the sick feeling I had as it sailed 2' over his head and right through the side window of the girl's car that worked the parts counter. Needless to say she wasn't to happy about that and it was her that gave me the idea about gas in the hole and a match.

She said her grand paw did it all the time and it worked for him. I had just about had it with these pesky bastages and at that point I figured, well why not; what's the worst that could happen??? LOL At least that's what I was thinking, it looked good on paper anyway.

She went back in the office to call the glass man out to fix the window before I got a full set of instructions of how ol' gramps used to pull this off with out burning the whole building down but I had a few ideas of my own and set out on a new course of action.

5 gal of gasoline....check!
1 large terrycloth bath towel cut into several pieces.......Check!!!!!!
Save one long piece of the towel for use as a fuse to ignite fuel poured into hog holes.........Check!!!
Uncover several of the stopped up hog holes around the perimeter of building that had been already filled in........Check!!!!

With everything in place I went around to the holes I had dug out and dumped in a modest amount of gas and inserted gas soaked fuse. Then I laid a brick over the hole so I could get the maximum effect. After I had all charges in place I decided I would light them off one at a time, one on each end of the building then the three down the rear of the building thinking there would be no way they could survive what was about to happen, I was ready to toast some hogs.

I had all the holes ready accept the one on the lower end of the building where this new pile of fresh dirt had just materialized. I really at that point didn't know how he had gotten out but as I looked closer I could see that he had dug right through that 21/2" of asphalt like it wasn't even there so I decided this was no regular old groundhog and a little extra gas might be needed in order to be sure I get a clean kill on this beast.

By the time I got that hole loaded and fused I decided that the other holes might need a little freshening up because of the evaporation factor so I set out with gas can in hand and each hole got another cut or so of fresh gas and ran to the other end of the building to finally get my revenge. Got dang!!! I wish I had thought to take the can of gas to a little safer part of the parking lot but I didn't......Oh well.

It went WHasssssssshssss!!! Alright along with some rattling....some shaking....and a small A bomb like boom...........Then there was a small puff of smoke and a little more rattling then came the FIRE!! I didn't know weather to run or put my pants leg out that was on fire. Somewhere in all this I heard several loud noises like bricks or large stones being thrown up against something medal and a loud secondary WHassssssssssshsss!!! and some more smoke and more fire on the other end of the building. Yep the gas can....you guessed it. There was about 40' of fence on that end of the building that had a lot of weeds and brush growing on it, That gas can ignited and took off for the fence setting it on fire along with my boat that was parked beside it.

You know those bricks I laid over the fuse holes I was going to light off one at a time? Well.....One found it's way to the school yard next door where it put a dent in the side of a dumpster. Another one pierced the door of my old pickup truck that I was thinking about restoring one day and one knocked a hole in the side of my now burning boat. All that action and not a single person got hurt.......well accept for a small burn on my leg and my pants that caught on fire in the initial explosion. Oh...and I did soil my skivies a little if you want to count that into the loses.LOL

OH, and the ground hogs you ask. I don't know how many dead bodies were laid to waste under that pad but it didn't deter the ones that were out of the holes that day from taking up action and they were back the next morning ready for work. Although they didn't mess with that building pad too much after that they just started digging under the other two buildings and I stayed pretty busy filling in holes with bricks and concrete until I left that place for a place that was a little less infected with pesky ground hogs.

I thought about trying the gas and fuse thing again but only for a really short second or two. I thought better of it because I still had paid for all the damage that happened the last time I gave that a try. Maybe next time and maybe dynamite would be a little safer:)
 

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In the past I have mixes a bag of cement slightly on the watery side and poured it into the hole

Bob
 

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In the past I have mixes a bag of cement slightly on the watery side and poured it into the hole

Bob

This is fine. We use single sack slurry concrete is all the time to backfill utilities. It is as firm as compacted soil and yet not as difficult to dig out as true concrete if you ever have to later.
 

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I've been fighting the groundhog war for 18 years. I've killed a couple hundred, 7 so far this year. Only thing that actually works is to get a dog. The little bastards will up and leave.
 

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I've been fighting the groundhog war for 18 years. I've killed a couple hundred, 7 so far this year. Only thing that actually works is to get a dog. The little bastards will up and leave.

I have one under my shed.. my wife is afraid the hog will scratch the dog and give it some kind of disease. The hog has seen my dog.... will it just up and leave b/c it knows a dog is around?
 

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I have the same problem on a slightly smaller scale - chipmunks!

I have trapped and relocated 30-40 of the little bastards and I still see them in the yard. I have two dogs, but they're older now and don't even see the little stripy rats.
 

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I feel for ya because I have had the same problems several times. It's hard to believe how much dirt those things can move in a short period of time. Once they get in there and get established it's hard to get them out.

I tried those smoke bombs that Southern States sells and to me it looks like they like the fumes they give off.

If you have some from the same clan as the ones that I had to deal with it's no use packing rocks, bricks, steel plate or anything else in the hole cause they will either just dig them out or dig beside the stuff and still be in business. I use up a whole pallet of concrete landscape bricks trying to fill in holes they were going in and out of.

After I ran out of the bricks and everything else I could find to pack into their holes I thought that maybe I could fill the holes with concrete. I went to Lowes and bought 10 bags of 80 lb mix and several bags of the large landscape rocks to mix in with the small pea gravel that comes in those bags of concrete. I mixed one or two bags kind of wet and dumped them in the hole them mixed a bag with the larger rocks that was kind of stiff and packed it into the hole. I sit there and drink a cool one and once I thought it would be ok to leave I left for the day. When I came back the next morning they had dug right through that mess like it was soft dirt.

I went and got ten more bags and filled the holes again while I was at work so I could keep an eye on them. Nothing happened the rest of the day but the next morning when I came back I found where they had dug another hole where there was no concrete or bricks. I filled that spot full of concrete and bricks and finally I thought I had then so there was no way in or out.

The next day I walked around the building and as I did I could find no where that they had dug on the two sides of the building that didn't have concrete or asphalt around the outside walls.

This building was on a built up pad that had a concrete slab with a concrete parking area in the front. On two sides there was no concrete and this is where I had the most problem up until now. On the other end of the building there was about 5' of fill that sloped up from the asphalt parking lot on that end of the building.

The area that sloped upward to the concrete pad had about 21/2" of asphalt laid down and packed to hold the dirt in place. As I came around the corner to the side parking area I just about pooped my skivies because there was a pile of bright red clay that looked like a small single axle dump truck had dumped in the parking lot.

I said no way somebody would do such a thing, then I looked a little closer and there was this ground hog sitting on top of the pile eating a stalk of corn he had robbed from the guy that lived next door. I was so mad I grabbed a piece of iron pipe that was laying on the ground and chunked it at him for all I was worth. Of course I missed and I remember the sick feeling I had as it sailed 2' over his head and right through the side window of the girl's car that worked the parts counter. Needless to say she wasn't to happy about that and it was her that gave me the idea about gas in the hole and a match.

She said her grand paw did it all the time and it worked for him. I had just about had it with these pesky bastages and at that point I figured, well why not; what's the worst that could happen??? LOL At least that's what I was thinking, it looked good on paper anyway.

She went back in the office to call the glass man out to fix the window before I got a full set of instructions of how ol' gramps used to pull this off with out burning the whole building down but I had a few ideas of my own and set out on a new course of action.

5 gal of gasoline....check!
1 large terrycloth bath towel cut into several pieces.......Check!!!!!!
Save one long piece of the towel for use as a fuse to ignite fuel poured into hog holes.........Check!!!
Uncover several of the stopped up hog holes around the perimeter of building that had been already filled in........Check!!!!

With everything in place I went around to the holes I had dug out and dumped in a modest amount of gas and inserted gas soaked fuse. Then I laid a brick over the hole so I could get the maximum effect. After I had all charges in place I decided I would light them off one at a time, one on each end of the building then the three down the rear of the building thinking there would be no way they could survive what was about to happen, I was ready to toast some hogs.

I had all the holes ready accept the one on the lower end of the building where this new pile of fresh dirt had just materialized. I really at that point didn't know how he had gotten out but as I looked closer I could see that he had dug right through that 21/2" of asphalt like it wasn't even there so I decided this was no regular old groundhog and a little extra gas might be needed in order to be sure I get a clean kill on this beast.

By the time I got that hole loaded and fused I decided that the other holes might need a little freshening up because of the evaporation factor so I set out with gas can in hand and each hole got another cut or so of fresh gas and ran to the other end of the building to finally get my revenge. Got dang!!! I wish I had thought to take the can of gas to a little safer part of the parking lot but I didn't......Oh well.

It went WHasssssssshssss!!! Alright along with some rattling....some shaking....and a small A bomb like boom...........Then there was a small puff of smoke and a little more rattling then came the FIRE!! I didn't know weather to run or put my pants leg out that was on fire. Somewhere in all this I heard several loud noises like bricks or large stones being thrown up against something medal and a loud secondary WHassssssssssshsss!!! and some more smoke and more fire on the other end of the building. Yep the gas can....you guessed it. There was about 40' of fence on that end of the building that had a lot of weeds and brush growing on it, That gas can ignited and took off for the fence setting it on fire along with my boat that was parked beside it.

You know those bricks I laid over the fuse holes I was going to light off one at a time? Well.....One found it's way to the school yard next door where it put a dent in the side of a dumpster. Another one pierced the door of my old pickup truck that I was thinking about restoring one day and one knocked a hole in the side of my now burning boat. All that action and not a single person got hurt.......well accept for a small burn on my leg and my pants that caught on fire in the initial explosion. Oh...and I did soil my skivies a little if you want to count that into the loses.LOL

OH, and the ground hogs you ask. I don't know how many dead bodies were laid to waste under that pad but it didn't deter the ones that were out of the holes that day from taking up action and they were back the next morning ready for work. Although they didn't mess with that building pad too much after that they just started digging under the other two buildings and I stayed pretty busy filling in holes with bricks and concrete until I left that place for a place that was a little less infected with pesky ground hogs.

I thought about trying the gas and fuse thing again but only for a really short second or two. I thought better of it because I still had paid for all the damage that happened the last time I gave that a try. Maybe next time and maybe dynamite would be a little safer:)

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I feel for ya because I have had the same problems several times. It's hard to believe how much dirt those things can move in a short period of time. Once they get in there and get established it's hard to get them out.

I tried those smoke bombs that Southern States sells and to me it looks like they like the fumes they give off.

If you have some from the same clan as the ones that I had to deal with it's no use packing rocks, bricks, steel plate or anything else in the hole cause they will either just dig them out or dig beside the stuff and still be in business. I use up a whole pallet of concrete landscape bricks trying to fill in holes they were going in and out of.

After I ran out of the bricks and everything else I could find to pack into their holes I thought that maybe I could fill the holes with concrete. I went to Lowes and bought 10 bags of 80 lb mix and several bags of the large landscape rocks to mix in with the small pea gravel that comes in those bags of concrete. I mixed one or two bags kind of wet and dumped them in the hole them mixed a bag with the larger rocks that was kind of stiff and packed it into the hole. I sit there and drink a cool one and once I thought it would be ok to leave I left for the day. When I came back the next morning they had dug right through that mess like it was soft dirt.

I went and got ten more bags and filled the holes again while I was at work so I could keep an eye on them. Nothing happened the rest of the day but the next morning when I came back I found where they had dug another hole where there was no concrete or bricks. I filled that spot full of concrete and bricks and finally I thought I had then so there was no way in or out.

The next day I walked around the building and as I did I could find no where that they had dug on the two sides of the building that didn't have concrete or asphalt around the outside walls.

This building was on a built up pad that had a concrete slab with a concrete parking area in the front. On two sides there was no concrete and this is where I had the most problem up until now. On the other end of the building there was about 5' of fill that sloped up from the asphalt parking lot on that end of the building.

The area that sloped upward to the concrete pad had about 21/2" of asphalt laid down and packed to hold the dirt in place. As I came around the corner to the side parking area I just about pooped my skivies because there was a pile of bright red clay that looked like a small single axle dump truck had dumped in the parking lot.

I said no way somebody would do such a thing, then I looked a little closer and there was this ground hog sitting on top of the pile eating a stalk of corn he had robbed from the guy that lived next door. I was so mad I grabbed a piece of iron pipe that was laying on the ground and chunked it at him for all I was worth. Of course I missed and I remember the sick feeling I had as it sailed 2' over his head and right through the side window of the girl's car that worked the parts counter. Needless to say she wasn't to happy about that and it was her that gave me the idea about gas in the hole and a match.

She said her grand paw did it all the time and it worked for him. I had just about had it with these pesky bastages and at that point I figured, well why not; what's the worst that could happen??? LOL At least that's what I was thinking, it looked good on paper anyway.

She went back in the office to call the glass man out to fix the window before I got a full set of instructions of how ol' gramps used to pull this off with out burning the whole building down but I had a few ideas of my own and set out on a new course of action.

5 gal of gasoline....check!
1 large terrycloth bath towel cut into several pieces.......Check!!!!!!
Save one long piece of the towel for use as a fuse to ignite fuel poured into hog holes.........Check!!!
Uncover several of the stopped up hog holes around the perimeter of building that had been already filled in........Check!!!!

With everything in place I went around to the holes I had dug out and dumped in a modest amount of gas and inserted gas soaked fuse. Then I laid a brick over the hole so I could get the maximum effect. After I had all charges in place I decided I would light them off one at a time, one on each end of the building then the three down the rear of the building thinking there would be no way they could survive what was about to happen, I was ready to toast some hogs.

I had all the holes ready accept the one on the lower end of the building where this new pile of fresh dirt had just materialized. I really at that point didn't know how he had gotten out but as I looked closer I could see that he had dug right through that 21/2" of asphalt like it wasn't even there so I decided this was no regular old groundhog and a little extra gas might be needed in order to be sure I get a clean kill on this beast.

By the time I got that hole loaded and fused I decided that the other holes might need a little freshening up because of the evaporation factor so I set out with gas can in hand and each hole got another cut or so of fresh gas and ran to the other end of the building to finally get my revenge. Got dang!!! I wish I had thought to take the can of gas to a little safer part of the parking lot but I didn't......Oh well.

It went WHasssssssshssss!!! Alright along with some rattling....some shaking....and a small A bomb like boom...........Then there was a small puff of smoke and a little more rattling then came the FIRE!! I didn't know weather to run or put my pants leg out that was on fire. Somewhere in all this I heard several loud noises like bricks or large stones being thrown up against something medal and a loud secondary WHassssssssssshsss!!! and some more smoke and more fire on the other end of the building. Yep the gas can....you guessed it. There was about 40' of fence on that end of the building that had a lot of weeds and brush growing on it, That gas can ignited and took off for the fence setting it on fire along with my boat that was parked beside it.

You know those bricks I laid over the fuse holes I was going to light off one at a time? Well.....One found it's way to the school yard next door where it put a dent in the side of a dumpster. Another one pierced the door of my old pickup truck that I was thinking about restoring one day and one knocked a hole in the side of my now burning boat. All that action and not a single person got hurt.......well accept for a small burn on my leg and my pants that caught on fire in the initial explosion. Oh...and I did soil my skivies a little if you want to count that into the loses.LOL

OH, and the ground hogs you ask. I don't know how many dead bodies were laid to waste under that pad but it didn't deter the ones that were out of the holes that day from taking up action and they were back the next morning ready for work. Although they didn't mess with that building pad too much after that they just started digging under the other two buildings and I stayed pretty busy filling in holes with bricks and concrete until I left that place for a place that was a little less infected with pesky ground hogs.

I thought about trying the gas and fuse thing again but only for a really short second or two. I thought better of it because I still had paid for all the damage that happened the last time I gave that a try. Maybe next time and maybe dynamite would be a little safer:)
I love this story well written. Thanx for sharing it mx842

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mx842, I laughed out loud. We have chipmunks, gofers, rabbits, and raccoon. Eating flowers and twigs just getting started, breaking stuff, and digging holes. This was truly entertaining, probably not so much for you. Thanks for sharing.
 

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I have one under my shed.. my wife is afraid the hog will scratch the dog and give it some kind of disease. The hog has seen my dog.... will it just up and leave b/c it knows a dog is around?

I had a 100 pound Black Lab and the ground hogs took one look at her and fled to the hills.

Ground hogs are territorial. They will stand and fight if cornered, but generally they run when they see a predator coming.
 
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Well last night I tossed a few gopher gasser smoke bombs in the hole and plugged it with old towels. Didn't see smoke coming out anywhere else.

So I sprayed about a half gallon of amonia in the hole, then packed it with gravel as best as I can and sprayed the perimiter of the garage with the rest of the amonia.

We had one last stubborn one I've been seeing that wouldn't go in the trap, but yesterday he did. I felt bad, but I shot the thing and dumped it in the woods. These things have caused so much damage, I'm tired of playing mr nice guy.

Going to keep setting up traps and keep an eye on things.
 

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I understand that daushounds were specifically bread to hunt and kill burrowing animals like groundhogs, and instinctively love to hunt and kill these things. Some will even go into the hole and will drag the groundhog out.


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A bag of apples , some DeCon , A pack of tooth picks .Slice the apple in half , scoop out the insides.
Fill with DeCon , Put the halves together with the tooth picks and roll them in the holes.
Repeat several times. Good to have a water source close by.
I heard it's against the law in some places?
 
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I've also heard about sitting out a dish with a little coca-cola in it and a few granules of fly bait. It's supposed to be extremely toxic to animals, so I guess it's imperitive to put it in a location where neighbor pets won't get into it.
 

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You have to get them while they are few. IF you have 2 now, you will have an additional 6 in a couple months. It seems they multiply by 6 every few months. I eradicated 15 or so last year. Some will go into a live trap and others won't. The best thing I found to work is #6 shot in the 12 gauge. Barring that, you can get Connibear "kill" traps that are the proper size for a ground hog. You place these in front of the active hole and when they try to go through, they're through. The problem with them though is that if the neighbors pet sticks his nose in the hole, the trap will get the pet instead.

I feel your pain... I've tried the giant destroyers and they didn't work either. I'll try the road flares next, they might be easier to find locally anyway.
 

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I once had smaller critters that kept digging under my garage. I would fill the hole, they would dig it out again the next day. Then I put broken glass and dirt back in the hole, still no hole to this day and that was years ago.
 

Ilikeike

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If you can't shoot them, is Phostoxin (Aluminium phosphide) allowed in your area ?
We use it on ground squirrels, they do not survive.

Just make sure you use it correctly, and not kill everyone in your home.
 

welder4956

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I feel for ya because I have had the same problems several times. It's hard to believe how much dirt those things can move in a short period of time. Once they get in there and get established it's hard to get them out.

I tried those smoke bombs that Southern States sells and to me it looks like they like the fumes they give off.

If you have some from the same clan as the ones that I had to deal with it's no use packing rocks, bricks, steel plate or anything else in the hole cause they will either just dig them out or dig beside the stuff and still be in business. I use up a whole pallet of concrete landscape bricks trying to fill in holes they were going in and out of.

After I ran out of the bricks and everything else I could find to pack into their holes I thought that maybe I could fill the holes with concrete. I went to Lowes and bought 10 bags of 80 lb mix and several bags of the large landscape rocks to mix in with the small pea gravel that comes in those bags of concrete. I mixed one or two bags kind of wet and dumped them in the hole them mixed a bag with the larger rocks that was kind of stiff and packed it into the hole. I sit there and drink a cool one and once I thought it would be ok to leave I left for the day. When I came back the next morning they had dug right through that mess like it was soft dirt.

I went and got ten more bags and filled the holes again while I was at work so I could keep an eye on them. Nothing happened the rest of the day but the next morning when I came back I found where they had dug another hole where there was no concrete or bricks. I filled that spot full of concrete and bricks and finally I thought I had then so there was no way in or out.

The next day I walked around the building and as I did I could find no where that they had dug on the two sides of the building that didn't have concrete or asphalt around the outside walls.

This building was on a built up pad that had a concrete slab with a concrete parking area in the front. On two sides there was no concrete and this is where I had the most problem up until now. On the other end of the building there was about 5' of fill that sloped up from the asphalt parking lot on that end of the building.

The area that sloped upward to the concrete pad had about 21/2" of asphalt laid down and packed to hold the dirt in place. As I came around the corner to the side parking area I just about pooped my skivies because there was a pile of bright red clay that looked like a small single axle dump truck had dumped in the parking lot.

I said no way somebody would do such a thing, then I looked a little closer and there was this ground hog sitting on top of the pile eating a stalk of corn he had robbed from the guy that lived next door. I was so mad I grabbed a piece of iron pipe that was laying on the ground and chunked it at him for all I was worth. Of course I missed and I remember the sick feeling I had as it sailed 2' over his head and right through the side window of the girl's car that worked the parts counter. Needless to say she wasn't to happy about that and it was her that gave me the idea about gas in the hole and a match.

She said her grand paw did it all the time and it worked for him. I had just about had it with these pesky bastages and at that point I figured, well why not; what's the worst that could happen??? LOL At least that's what I was thinking, it looked good on paper anyway.

She went back in the office to call the glass man out to fix the window before I got a full set of instructions of how ol' gramps used to pull this off with out burning the whole building down but I had a few ideas of my own and set out on a new course of action.

5 gal of gasoline....check!
1 large terrycloth bath towel cut into several pieces.......Check!!!!!!
Save one long piece of the towel for use as a fuse to ignite fuel poured into hog holes.........Check!!!
Uncover several of the stopped up hog holes around the perimeter of building that had been already filled in........Check!!!!

With everything in place I went around to the holes I had dug out and dumped in a modest amount of gas and inserted gas soaked fuse. Then I laid a brick over the hole so I could get the maximum effect. After I had all charges in place I decided I would light them off one at a time, one on each end of the building then the three down the rear of the building thinking there would be no way they could survive what was about to happen, I was ready to toast some hogs.

I had all the holes ready accept the one on the lower end of the building where this new pile of fresh dirt had just materialized. I really at that point didn't know how he had gotten out but as I looked closer I could see that he had dug right through that 21/2" of asphalt like it wasn't even there so I decided this was no regular old groundhog and a little extra gas might be needed in order to be sure I get a clean kill on this beast.

By the time I got that hole loaded and fused I decided that the other holes might need a little freshening up because of the evaporation factor so I set out with gas can in hand and each hole got another cut or so of fresh gas and ran to the other end of the building to finally get my revenge. Got dang!!! I wish I had thought to take the can of gas to a little safer part of the parking lot but I didn't......Oh well.

It went WHasssssssshssss!!! Alright along with some rattling....some shaking....and a small A bomb like boom...........Then there was a small puff of smoke and a little more rattling then came the FIRE!! I didn't know weather to run or put my pants leg out that was on fire. Somewhere in all this I heard several loud noises like bricks or large stones being thrown up against something medal and a loud secondary WHassssssssssshsss!!! and some more smoke and more fire on the other end of the building. Yep the gas can....you guessed it. There was about 40' of fence on that end of the building that had a lot of weeds and brush growing on it, That gas can ignited and took off for the fence setting it on fire along with my boat that was parked beside it.

You know those bricks I laid over the fuse holes I was going to light off one at a time? Well.....One found it's way to the school yard next door where it put a dent in the side of a dumpster. Another one pierced the door of my old pickup truck that I was thinking about restoring one day and one knocked a hole in the side of my now burning boat. All that action and not a single person got hurt.......well accept for a small burn on my leg and my pants that caught on fire in the initial explosion. Oh...and I did soil my skivies a little if you want to count that into the loses.LOL

OH, and the ground hogs you ask. I don't know how many dead bodies were laid to waste under that pad but it didn't deter the ones that were out of the holes that day from taking up action and they were back the next morning ready for work. Although they didn't mess with that building pad too much after that they just started digging under the other two buildings and I stayed pretty busy filling in holes with bricks and concrete until I left that place for a place that was a little less infected with pesky ground hogs.

I thought about trying the gas and fuse thing again but only for a really short second or two. I thought better of it because I still had paid for all the damage that happened the last time I gave that a try. Maybe next time and maybe dynamite would be a little safer:)

:lol_hitti

I had this image of Bill Murray in a floppy hat the whole time I was reading this! Good story!

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stihlntime

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I have raised alfalfa for years. It is a constant battle. I've literally shot hundreds over the last 40 years. English Shepherds will kill them in a heartbeat. Seriously over the years the best method is the large footling inch diameter road flares. I get them from a law enforcement friend. Light them toss in the hole , cover it up, fill the hole and their done for good. No smell from the carcass either. Worm food!
 

BlueBomber

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I once had smaller critters that kept digging under my garage. I would fill the hole, they would dig it out again the next day. Then I put broken glass and dirt back in the hole, still no hole to this day and that was years ago.

^^^This. I had a chipmunk hole outside my garage side door that I tried for three days to fill. First day, when I saw the chipmunk duck into it, I grabbed the hose and let it run for 2-3 minutes into the hole. I'll be damned if that hole didn't swallow every bit of water I put in there. I figured I had drowned the little rat, but the next day I saw him come bebopping back over and down into the hole. This time I filled the hole with gravel - it took a good three big handfuls.

One day three, I was showing my wife where the old hole was, and darned if the little ****** hadn't cleared out every bit of gravel. This time, I dumped 1/2 qt of chainsaw bar oil down the hole, followed by gravel and broken glass, and then drizzled more oil down into the gravel and topped of the hole with dirt.

On day four, he came back and dug out until he got to the oil soaked gravel. That's what finally stopped him. Its been three days and he hasn't been back (at least not to this hole).
 
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