Group Buy.

[Evogun]

So, someone tell me how come I don't see group buys on here?

What's with these dealers Snap-on, Mac or Toptul etc?

Every car forum I have ever been on have these all the time, so why not here?

Someone fill me in on why GJ is not in the 21st Century?

 

[tonydanzah]

........+1

 

[wrenchr]

Hey I'm for getting some new tools!!

 

[gunner3773]

We have had one that I know of:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32882&highlight=ezcarlift

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

How does one go about doing a Group Buy?

I am assuming it involves a large volume purchase with a considerable discount...

What type of items do you think we could get at such a discount?

-BWP

 

[X1 Mike]

Count me as interested.

 

[48548]

I am interested as well.

 

[Evogun]

How does one go about doing a Group Buy?

I am assuming it involves a large volume purchase with a considerable discount...

What type of items do you think we could get at such a discount?

-BWP

This is the easy part, hard part is getting one of the tool companies or dealers to offer us stuff. Seems like they are making amazing money or they don't care about this forum?

Most car forums work like this, the item is listed and the seller says if 10 ppl buy the price is $** if 15 $** if 20 $**. The more ppl the more reasonable the tool cost.

So the real question is, who's first to step up and offer the great members here a deal?

I have seen a lot of members from forums contact manufactures and offer them a volume purchase, then offer that to the members of the forum.

It can happen a lot of ways, but still need a answer why it's not happening here?

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

It can happen a lot of ways, but still need a answer why it's not happening here?

I can venture an answer to your question.

1. Most people here have some sort of set of hand tools.

2. Not everyone agrees on one particular brand.

3. If it is a specialty tool, then only a few would want it.

4. If it were too common a tool, everyone would have it.

5. We have a vibrant resale section on this board with many good deals


I'm not saying it can't work... But I can't figure right now what would sell....




-BWP

 

[mkdive]

of course depending on what tool....Im in for a group buy

 

[CamarosRus]

FYI, Mike Wren has already given the entire web site a group buy with a 20% discount (from TOPTUL's msrp). And back around Oct, 09 he raised the discount to 30% on wrenches.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I havent seen anything similar from any other hand tool dealer.

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

Here is what I can offer:

My Snap on guy has two of these left. He is asking $311 (before taxes).. Maybe I can get him down to $300 apiece (without taxes and shipping charges). If I bought both of them, he probably would let me have them for $648 out the door

$324 plus actual shipping.

Would anyone want them?

-BWP

 

[DHCrocks]

yeah those Toptul sales were great.

I want a reversable ratcheting wrench group buy.

 

[DHCrocks]

Here is what I can offer:

My Snap on guy has two of these left. He is asking $311 (before taxes).. Maybe I can get him down to $300 apiece (without taxes and shipping charges). If I bought both of them, he probably would let me have them for $648 out the door

$324 plus actual shipping.

Would anyone want them?

-BWP

the soex707 lists for 191.60
the soexm710 lists for 311.60
that's a total of 503.02, why is the special promo more at 515.00?

are you saying you get the soexm710 and the soexm710x707 together so a total of two sets of 10pc metric and a single 7pc sae for 324...if so put me down and PM me.

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

the soex707 lists for 191.60
the soexm710 lists for 311.60
that's a total of 503.02, why is the special promo more at 515.00?

are you saying you get the soexm710 and the soexm710x707 together so a total of two sets of 10pc metric and a single 7pc sae for 324...if so put me down and PM me.

The set retails for $311 (before taxes) they were a limited time special... We discussed it in this thread... you get a 10 piece metric set and a 7 piece SAE set.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52421

-BWP

 

[Evogun]

Don't know if the truck guys can help us, if anything direct to the manufacture would be a better try.
I would email them and say you are on a closed membership only forum, and you have a couple hundred friends who all need the same tool! Would they be interested in a large tool (insert tool here) purchase for you and your friends?
If so what will they offer us?

Ratchets, wrenches, hammers and sockets etc are universal tools everyone needs these. So I bet you could get into the hundreds of sets.

The thing about Group buys is they can be open for 1 day or 4 months!

Maybe one of the truck guys will chime in and let us know what their restrictions are on a closed membership forum?

I do know this, if you buy a lot of stuff you get deals from the big truck guys.

 

[Eds_tls]

Racedeck would be a good idea for a group buy.

 

[chadster1]

Ratchets, wrenches, hammers and sockets etc are universal tools everyone needs these. So I bet you could get into the hundreds of sets.

I think you are grossly overestimating the possible sales here.

 

[ovilla]

I bet we could get at least 40-50 guys/gals that would like to buy at least 1-2 items from snap on's dual 80 collection. That would be a great deal for sure. Maybe the Snap on truck guy (can't remember his name right now) can chime in and let us know if something could be done.

Edit: Speaking of the devil, look at who just posted above my post.

Chadster1 - Does Snap on ever do any group buys?

 

[48548]

I would be up for a sx80!!!!

 

[chadster1]

I bet we could get at least 40-50 guys/gals that would like to buy at least 1-2 items from snap on's dual 80 collection. That would be a great deal for sure. Maybe the Snap on truck guy (can't remember his name right now) can chime in and let us know if something could be done.

Snap-on just had a 10% off web sale that I promoted in my sig during the holidays. I can tell you that you are still grossly overestimating potential sales.

 

[48548]

10% off of list prices doesn't do much for the average person when they can buy new dual 80's off of here or ebay for 30-40$ off of the list price that are in mint condition.

 

[mossyboy6]

I can tell you that you are still grossly overestimating potential sales.

Yup. I think pretty much everyone on here that wanted a new dual 80 bought them already.

 

[Evogun]

42000 members I think you could do pretty well on a group buy.

Like I said this needs to be taken direct to the manufactures.

I think this is the best advertising money they can buy.

I bet this forum gets 100000+ unique visitors a day. That means their are a lot who would join up when they see a nice group buy.

But maybe your right maybe this is a waste of time.

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

If anyone here is serious about my offer to get the Snap on Set of 17 Combo wrenches for around $324 plus actual shipping costs, then shoot me a PM. I won't make any money off the deal, but I think a $600 sale (two sets) would help my dealer and he is a good guy.....

-BWP

 

[chadster1]

42000 members I think you could do pretty well on a group buy.

A large percentage of any forums membership is non-active.

 

[chadster1]

If anyone here is serious about my offer to get the Snap on Set of 17 Combo wrenches for around $348 plus actual shipping costs, then shoot me a PM. I won't make any money off the deal, but I think a $600 sale would help my dealer and he is a good guy.....

-BWP

BWP is offering you guys a great deal.

BWP, I know your dealer appreciates your business.

 

[LoneGunman]

Even if you get a manufacturer to go along with a group buy you have to remember that there are a LOT of different tool guys on here. If I wanted Snap On 80's I'd have them already, you cannot get the price low enough to match what I can snipe one of Ebay for. I've also seen a few group buys go horribly wrong, someone is either fronting the money or holding the money for the participants, that leads to all sorts of issues.

I know two site owners who are still trying to pay off members from bad group buys that happened years ago.

 

[rsanter]

I think the issue you are seeing is that these companies do not see us as a large enough group or a group that does not have a large enough voice.
most companies are not going to come after us, we may have go after them. if anyone has an in, that could be a place to start.

if SO were to open the 'educational discount' to us for a short period, I would get some stuff. but I dont think SO would do that because of all the teritories that would cross, logistical nightmare.
Sears isint going to do that because they are too shortsighted and we talk trash about them too much. (even though I think they deserve it)
a company that is on the grow or has a new product out, and a company that will not have the problems associated with their distributors or teritories would be the one it would be most likly to work with.
what would be really cool would be something like a set of wrenches or screwdrivers with the JG logo on them.
SO makes custom runs, I wonder what they would charge to do a special run with the JG logo. of course the only person that ask for that would be the owner of the logo

bob

 

[48548]

A special limited edition GJ dual 80 would be a good start from snap on

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

A special limited edition GJ dual 80 would be a good start from snap on

I was thinking hard handle screwdriver... but alas. Those days are gone... Perhaps a GJ Ratcheting screwdriver....

-BWP

 

[rsanter]

42000 members I think you could do pretty well on a group buy.

Like I said this needs to be taken direct to the manufactures.

I think this is the best advertising money they can buy.

I bet this forum gets 100000+ unique visitors a day. That means their are a lot who would join up when they see a nice group buy.

But maybe your right maybe this is a waste of time.

1 how many of them are active or high number posters?
2 if we are the best advirtising, then start with someone who think we are. that would be someone that is advirtising on the site

it would be easy for strictly toolboxes to do a special edition JG toolbox. its just another sticker. Toptul would have to engrave the tools special

either might be willing to offer a discount though

bob

 

[Jack90210]

This is the easy part, hard part is getting one of the tool companies or dealers to offer us stuff. Seems like they are making amazing money or they don't care about this forum?

Most car forums work like this, the item is listed and the seller says if 10 ppl buy the price is $** if 15 $** if 20 $**. The more ppl the more reasonable the tool cost.

So the real question is, who's first to step up and offer the great members here a deal?

I have seen a lot of members from forums contact manufactures and offer them a volume purchase, then offer that to the members of the forum.

It can happen a lot of ways, but still need a answer why it's not happening here?

Tools aren't model-specific items that have a lot of markup in order to compensate for the small scale of their production.

If I sell, say, a set of coil-overs for a Subaru, or some nice Wilburs shocks for a BMW motorcycle, then my target group of consumers is pretty limited. I'm going to be selling my product to enthusiasts who own that specific vehicle, and that target group is going to be heavily concentrated on whatever Internet forum caters to that vehicle -- and I can be worth my while to offer a big discount when so much of my business is concentrated in one place. In addition, I can probably expect to get a relatively high rate of return on my investment in the form of repeat business, not to mention the reputation of an enthusiast-friendly business who goes out of the way for customers.

But if I sell tools, well ... anybody who wrenches on any kind of vehicle, equipment, or machinery is going to be a possible customer. The possible consumer base for that product is going to be pretty broad, and won't necessarily be concentrated on any particular website -- especially if the website isn't geared specifically towards professionals. Selling tools at a discount to "members" of a particular website may also violate sales agreements regarding territory or price, because of the nature of truck tool sales franchises.

Let's not make it sound like the folks that *are* here selling tools don't "care" about this place. Given the potential for problems, not to mention the low potential for ROI for giving deep discounts to Joe Blow on the Internet, I just don't think that what you're talking about is feasible or worthwhile for tool manufacturers.

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

One member down for a set of the Snappies. One left.

-BWP

 

[M900]

I was thinking hard handle screwdriver... but alas. Those days are gone... Perhaps a GJ Ratcheting screwdriver....

-BWP

JIS screwdrivers if any screwdrivers.

 

[Evogun]

I just don't think that what you're talking about is feasible or worthwhile for tool manufacturers.

Their is only one way to find out! Actions speaks louder I hear.

The point of this is to motivate ppl to contact the manufactures and let them decide what's worth it or not. Link them to this discussion I'm sure they like a couple hundred more loyal customers.

I think that you will find, some of them would like the opportunity to get their new tools into new customers hands. I think they would get a lot of feed back on the product and maybe gain a larger customer base.

What's a couple hundred sets of this and that, the word of mouth alone is worth it.

 

[american lockpicker]

of course depending on what tool....Im in for a group buy

Me too............

 

[trailwart]

1 how many of them are active or high number posters?
2 if we are the best advirtising, then start with someone who think we are. that would be someone that is advirtising on the site

it would be easy for strictly toolboxes to do a special edition JG toolbox. its just another sticker. Toptul would have to engrave the tools special

either might be willing to offer a discount though

bob

there is over 28,000 members with 0 posts, and 8,000 more with less than 5 posts. lots of inactives, so throw the 42k number out the window. only 1738 members with 51 posts or more

 

[t100]

I believe many many people have read "The Hammer" thread. if that hammer is sold by Snap On, I can guaranty you it's gonna be $250+. and how hard to get the 10 pieces order for $120 a pop?

 

[M900]

of course depending on what tool....Im in for a group buy

Sunflag JIS screwdrivers?